Pictures from Sindh

[Ajatashatru]

Nope im justifying the rightful Thing.......This is the soil of Muslim, which was made, and will remain for them. This is what im justifying.

The Hindus were majority in Sindh atleast in some areas. But as they were rich Landlords so they used to slave Muslims to work on their fields.

And there is no such thing as exodus in Pakistan this was the place for Muslims so thats why the non Muslims were kicked out.

Now I see why countless Hindu families are coming to India every month. Raping and forcibly converting Hindu girls is a way of life in Pak. Doesn't surprise, your ancestors were converted the same way. Hindus formed the middle class in Sindh. Both the upper and lower classes were formed by Muslims. This I read in a Pak news site (either Dawn or ET) in their comparison of Indian & Pakistani Sindhis. Even your fellow countrymen are contradicting your facts.

Where as the biggest Migration in Human history was happened when Muslims came here during independence of Pakistan and approx 200 million of them were Murdered in cold blood by Sikhs and Hindu terrorists on their way!!!!!

Partition violence happened from both sides. More so in Pak 'cause it was made an Islamic country so non-Muslims were forced to leave. India was made secular so forced migration of Muslims happened to a much lesser extent in North India and not at all in South India. But even after partition, West Pak had 15% Hindus which are now about 2%. The world knows that Islam is the least tolerant religion on the planet.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Now I see why countless Hindu families are coming to India every month. Raping and forcibly converting Hindu girls is a way of life in Pak. Doesn't surprise, your ancestors were converted the same way. Hindus formed the middle class in Sindh. Both the upper and lower classes were formed by Muslims. This I read in a Pak news site (either Dawn or ET) in their comparison of Indian & Pakistani Sindhis. Even your fellow countrymen are contradicting your facts.


Partition violence happened from both sides. More so in Pak 'cause it was made an Islamic country so non-Muslims were forced to leave. India was made secular so forced migration of Muslims happened to a much lesser extent in North India and not at all in South India. But even after partition, West Pak had 15% Hindus which are now about 2%. The world knows that Islam is the least tolerant religion on the planet.

Maybe i dont know what they tell u in yr history books. But its a widely accepted fact that over 200 million Muslims were Murdered By Sikhs and Hindu Terrorists and it was the biggest migration ever recorded in human history.

The Hindus who were in Sindhi were mainly business men/ Landlords. This ET specially is not a credible source anyways its just a news website linked with NY times. Do u even know when was yr RSS created? It was 1917. The hindu terrorist groups were there to do prosecutions on Muslim even longer before 47.

The Hindus that u talk abt Migrating into yr country well they were just few families who did that before but it has stopped now yr media as we know is state controlled so it exaggerated. Anyways their condition in yr country is even worse then when they were in Sindhi as they dont have any home they sleep in open the beg to people for food even after repeated applications in yr Capital by them to give them citizenship u have failed to give them

So dont talk in such lines even i have bigger arguments to prove u wrong on this. But the topic of our discussion is that the Hindus who left their properties have now no right over them and this country is solely representatives of Muslims so their hue and cry doesnt makes sense as they were asked to leave and still can leave as we nvr asked india to hand over hindus back us.

BTW dont tell us about our own country's stats as if we dont know. The population here has 97.5% Muslims out of them the second biggest Minority is Christians then comes hindus. I dont know where u read that they r 2%

Bottom line is that the public sentiments must be respected of people....Whether u or yr country accept or not its least of our worries.

 

[Ajatashatru]

Maybe i dont know what they tell u in yr history books. But its a widely accepted fact that over 200 million Muslims were Murdered By Sikhs and Hindu Terrorists and it was the biggest migration ever recorded in human history.

The Hindus who were in Sindhi were mainly business men/ Landlords. This ET specially is not a credible source anyways its just a news website linked with NY times. Do u even know when was yr RSS created? It was 1917. The hindu terrorist groups were there to do prosecutions on Muslim even longer before 47.

The Hindus that u talk abt Migrating into yr country well they were just few families who did that before but it has stopped now yr media as we know is state controlled so it exaggerated. Anyways their condition in yr country is even worse then when they were in Sindhi as they dont have any home they sleep in open the beg to people for food even after repeated applications in yr Capital by them to give them citizenship u have failed to give them

So dont talk in such lines even i have bigger arguments to prove u wrong on this. But the topic of our discussion is that the Hindus who left their properties have now no right over them and this country is solely representatives of Muslims so their hue and cry doesnt makes sense as they were asked to leave and still can leave as we nvr asked india to hand over hindus back us.

BTW dont tell us about our own country's stats as if we dont know. The population here has 97.5% Muslims out of them the second biggest Minority is Christians then comes hindus. I dont know where u read that they r 2%

Bottom line is that the public sentiments must be respected of people....Whether u or yr country accept or not its least of our worries.

200 million were murdered? Man that's more than the population of Pakistan.
And I had said that the relatives who chose to stay behind and become Pak citizens had claimed the properties. Does it not happen in Pak that after a person dies or leaves their relatives get the property? If not then Pak laws are ridiculous. And Pak Hindu migration to India continues unabated. You can't expect them to become settled overnight here. They have come leaving everything behind, no money. Some have even come leaving children behind as they couldn't get passports for them, some have seen relatives getting killed and raped, some have seen relatives converted at gun point and conversion being legalised by a court. The stats clearly show that Pak has been the sight of one of the largest ethnic cleansing in history probably second only to the holocaust. BTW Indian media is completely liberal. It's Pak which has state controlled media. You can verify it by the data available on neutral sources about press freedom.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

200 million were murdered? Man that's more than the population of Pakistan.
And I had said that the relatives who chose to stay behind and become Pak citizens had claimed the properties. Does it not happen in Pak that after a person dies or leaves their relatives get the property? If not then Pak laws are ridiculous. And Pak Hindu migration to India continues unabated. You can't expect them to become settled overnight here. They have come leaving everything behind, no money. Some have even come leaving children behind as they couldn't get passports for them, some have seen relatives getting killed and raped, some have seen relatives converted at gun point and conversion being legalised by a court. The stats clearly show that Pak has been the sight of one of the largest ethnic cleansing in history probably second only to the holocaust. BTW Indian media is completely liberal. It's Pak which has state controlled media. You can verify it by the data available on neutral sources about press freedom.

What r u smoking The Hereditary Laws r different case......Comparing them with This is way off target and immature. Here the laws work on kabza system. That a person who is already is on possession of a property has an advantage just like in yr country!!!!

Further more why did they left their property in the first place if they had no desire of leaving??
Talk with facts not on impressions. And like i told u before public sentiments must be respected.

Raped and didnt got passports?? LOL those who left have left here without gov's knowledge and have just crossed border through illegal means!!!! Even those propaganda videos of indian channels on u tube can tell u that. They r in yr Rajistan area and there r not flights from pak to jaipur in the first place. Just a train service but its very hard to do that as the authorities check everyone who leaves and comes in both sides. This is one of the reason why yr gov hasnt issued citizenship to them!!! Even though some of them have applied for it since 90s.(again from same utube propaganda videos of yr state controlled media)
The conversion from their religion to our is a total lie.... There might be some isolated cases like few years back but thats all. Where the women themselves said they reverted to Islam by their own choice and yr creating conspiracy out of this. This is Pakistan no IOK where u compare us with Holocaust. In Kashmir also atleast 600,000 people have been killed by u. And the massacres of Gujrat in 90s and 2000s plus the demolition of Babri Masjid who was build by first Mughal Emperor Zaheer ud Deen Babar and named after him. Even our Gov has spend 10 million Dollors from our already striving economy to rebuild yr temples and renovate them in 2010 even though we r a Sole Muslim Country and yr comparing us with u.


Thats rubbish.

Well the bottom line still remains that its a Muslim country and it will remain so forever. and certainly the public sentiments of majority will not be compromised on some individuals. We r a Democratic Nation and we believe in Majority. If they r not happy or think they dont belong here they r still welcome to leave to their fellow hindu nation. We have more important things to look for. Take it or leave it.

 

[Ajatashatru]

What r u smoking The Hereditary Laws r different case......Comparing them with This is way off target and immature. Here the laws work on kabza system. That a person who is already is on possession of a property has an advantage just like in yr country!!!!

Further more why did they left their property in the first place if they had no desire of leaving??
Talk with facts not on impressions. And like i told u before public sentiments must be respected.

Raped and didnt got passports?? LOL those who left have left here without gov's knowledge and have just crossed border through illegal means!!!! Even those propaganda videos of indian channels on u tube can tell u that. They r in yr Rajistan area and there r not flights from pak to jaipur in the first place. Just a train service but its very hard to do that as the authorities check everyone who leaves and comes in both sides. This is one of the reason why yr gov hasnt issued citizenship to them!!! Even though some of them have applied for it since 90s.(again from same utube propaganda videos of yr state controlled media)
The conversion from their religion to our is a total lie.... There might be some isolated cases like few years back but thats all. Where the women themselves said they reverted to Islam by their own choice and yr creating conspiracy out of this. This is Pakistan no IOK where u compare us with Holocaust. In Kashmir also atleast 600,000 people have been killed by u. And the massacres of Gujrat in 90s and 200s plus the demolition of Babri Masjid who was build by first Mughal Emperor Zaheer ud Deen Babar and named after him. Even our Gov has spend 10 million Dollors from our already striving economy to rebuild yr temples and renovate them in 2010 even though we r a Sole Muslim Country and yr comparing us with u.


Thats rubbish.

Well the bottom line still remains that its a Muslim country and it will remain so forever. and certainly the public sentiments of majority will not be compromised on some individuals. We r a Democratic Nation and we believe in Majority. If they r not happy or think they dont belong here they r still welcome to leave to their fellow hindu nation. We have more important things to look for. Take it or leave it.

Rubbish! 400 Pak Hindu families came to India through valid passports in pretext of attending Maha Kumbh and never went back. They are in Delhi, not in Pak. Many later said they didn't send their girls to school due to fear of being kidnapped and getting forcibly converted. Man read some good neutral news sites, not your state controlled media. And that Sindhi family did not leave on purpose, they were forced out. Their relatives are the legal heirs to their property even by Pak law (I just checked it on web). You people do not even follow your own law when it comes to giving justice to Hindus. Hindus went down from 15% to less than 2%. Do you even know what is 15% of Pak's large population? Its can easily be described as Pak's holocaust.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Rubbish! 400 Pak Hindu families came to India through valid passports in pretext of attending Maha Kumbh and never went back. They are in Delhi, not in Pak. Many later said they didn't send their girls to school due to fear of being kidnapped and getting forcibly converted. Man read some good neutral news sites, not your state controlled media. And that Sindhi family did not leave on purpose, they were forced out. Their relatives are the legal heirs to their property even by Pak law (I just checked it on web). You people do not even follow your own law when it comes to giving justice to Hindus. Hindus went down from 15% to less than 2%. Do you even know what is 15% of Pak's large population? Its can easily be described as Pak's holocaust.

R there any neutral sites in the world left?? Everyone has their own agenda no one is neutral. The only way abt Hindus in India i came to know by watch yr state's propaganda videos in utube. Anyways if they r 400 then thats even better as we can ask the rest also to leave and get out of our nation. and why dont u check out yr own State controlled media's videos in utube u will see that they r in Rajistan crossed border through illegal means and some of them r there since 90s without any citizenship.
Anyways they belonged to india. Pak's population consensus nvr claimed we have 15% of Hindus not even 2% as of now as well. I gave u stats and yr just quoting from yr behind without any facts.

Anyways i have already made our position clear on this so no more off topic issues.

 

[Ajatashatru]

R there any neutral sites in the world left?? Everyone has their own agenda no one is neutral. The only way abt Hindus in India i came to know by watch yr state's propaganda videos in utube. Anyways if they r 400 then thats even better as we can ask the rest also to leave and get out of our nation. and why dont u check out yr own State controlled media's videos in utube u will see that they r in Rajistan crossed border through illegal means and some of them r there since 90s without any citizenship.
Anyways they belonged to india. Pak's population consensus nvr claimed we have 15% of Hindus not even 2% as of now as well. I gave u stats and yr just quoting from yr behind without any facts.

Anyways i have already made our position clear on this so no more off topic issues.

My stats are completely correct. And search on YouTube you will find your own Pak news sites' videos of plight of Pak Hindus. You don't need to see Indian news (as you find it state controlled) there are still some sensible people left in Pak who recognize at least partially the magnitude of human rights abuses against Hindus. But as you already want to throw them out then I don't think it would matter to you. You are the pride Muslim and proud Pakistani that Zaid Hamid needs to subdue all non-Muslims.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

My stats are completely correct. And search on YouTube you will find your own Pak news sites' videos of plight of Pak Hindus. You don't need to see Indian news (as you find it state controlled) there are still some sensible people left in Pak who recognize at least partially the magnitude of human rights abuses against Hindus.


But as you already want to throw them out then I don't think it would matter to you. You are the pride Muslim and proud Pakistani that Zaid Hamid needs to subdue all non-Muslims.

LOL yr stats r rubbish. Yr quoting our country's stats mind u. We know abt our country best as we like here. The official gov stats r these that 97.5% Muslims then Christian, Ahmedis, Then Hindus etc.

The Hindus r barely 1% here. That too is a very exaggeration in reality then would be even less then 1%. Utube is banned now and when u say our media is controlled which actually i agree its is controlled by US as it gives then 50 million dollars in AID annually. But as u claim yr media is free so why not u take the trouble of checking yr own media who proves u wrong. who is according to u again free.

Abt yr last paragraph

Beta pholosphy Jharna boht asan hota ha pehly apne aap do sahe karo phr kuch kaho gy to ache bhi lago gy. Ur kind should be the last ones to say us that who have killed 600,000 Muslims in Kashmir, Countless rapes and massacres both in Kashmir and Gujrat that too twice + the demolition Muslim religious places that too countless times plus burning the villages of christian, Dalits in South India last year where 200 homes were burnt.

With yr secular country having organizations like RSS, Shev Sehna , VHP, Bajrang Dali etc etc who even take part in elections and win by majority in yr dear country and yr giving us lectures abt morality abt just few hindus in our Sole Muslim country. Where we had spend 10 million on their temples to rebuild/renovate them in 2010

Keep yr words and advices to yrself and apply first on yr country then lecturing us.

 

[Ajatashatru]

LOL yr stats r rubbish. Yr quoting our country's stats mind u. We know abt our country best as we like here. The official gov stats r these that 97.5% Muslims then Christian, Ahmedis, Then Hindus etc.

The Hindus r barely 1% here. That too is a very exaggeration in reality then would be even less then 1%. Utube is banned now and when u say our media is controlled which actually i agree its is controlled by US as it gives then 50 million dollars in AID annually. But as u claim yr media is free so why not u take the trouble of checking yr own media who proves u wrong. who is according to u again free.

My dear friend, you are blinded by your state controlled media. In 1951, Hindus constituted 22% of the Pakistani population (this includes East Pakistan, modern day Bangladesh) as per data of Pak census; Today, the share of Hindus is down to 1.7% in Pakistan, and 9.2% in Bangladesh.

Beta pholosphy Jharna boht asan hota ha pehly apne aap do sahe karo phr kuch kaho gy to ache bhi lago gy. Ur kind should be the last ones to say us that who have killed 600,000 Muslims in Kashmir, Countless rapes and massacres both in Kashmir and Gujrat that too twice + the demolition Muslim religious places that too countless times plus burning the villages of christian, Dalits in South India last year where 200 homes were burnt.

Today, only 26 out of Pakistan's 428 Hindu temples exist and you people keep bickering about one Babri Masjid, despite the fact that it was built after destroying one of the holiest sites in Hinduism. Do not even get me started on ethnic tension in Pak, Sunnis killing Shias and Hazaras, Pak army killing, raping and kidnapping Balochs, Kashmiris from AJK do not consider them Pakistanis, Ahmedis being branded non-Muslims, their graves disrespected et cetera. In Pak, you don't need minorities, Muslims are killing each other.

With yr secular country having organizations like RSS, Shev Sehna , VHP, Bajrang Dali etc etc who even take part in elections and win by majority in yr dear country and yr giving us lectures abt morality abt just few hindus in our Sole Muslim country. Where we had spend 10 million on their temples to rebuild/renovate them in 2010
Keep yr words and advices to yrself and apply first on yr country then lecturing us.

In India there are also Muslim/Sikh/Christian nationalist organizations, not only Hindu ones and they also win elections. In Pak, the biased blasphemy laws never allow minorities to form proper organizations or to express themselves freely lest they be branded traitors and a danger to Islam. In India, the govt not only gives money to Muslims for mosques but also pays for their Hajj pilgrimage.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

My dear friend, you are blinded by your state controlled media. In 1951, Hindus constituted 22% of the Pakistani population (this includes East Pakistan, modern day Bangladesh) as per data of Pak census; Today, the share of Hindus is down to 1.7% in Pakistan, and 9.2% in Bangladesh.


Today, only 26 out of Pakistan's 428 Hindu temples exist and you people keep bickering about one Babri Masjid, despite the fact that it was built after destroying one of the holiest sites in Hinduism. Do not even get me started on ethnic tension in Pak, Sunnis killing Shias and Hazaras, Pak army killing, raping and kidnapping Balochs, Kashmiris from AJK do not consider them Pakistanis, Ahmedis being branded non-Muslims, their graves disrespected et cetera. In Pak, you don't need minorities, Muslims are killing each other.


In India there are also Muslim/Sikh/Christian nationalist organizations, not only Hindu ones and they also win elections. In Pak, the biased blasphemy laws never allow minorities to form proper organizations or to express themselves freely lest they be branded traitors and a danger to Islam. In India, the govt not only gives money to Muslims for mosques but also pays for their Hajj pilgrimage.

Yr full of lies and rubbish show proof or get lost.

 

[Ajatashatru]

Yr full of lies and rubbish show proof or get lost.

Fell short of words this time, didn't you? Do I really need to tell you of attacks on Shias, Hazaras, Ahmedis, Balochs in your own country? It's a shame that you don't know the current affairs of your own country. Ever heard of Abdus Salam? The word Muslim was removed from his grave. You people are forced to sign a declaration that Ahmedis are not Muslims and their prophet is not a prophet while applying for passport. There have been countless kidnappings, rapes, murders and disappearances in Baluchistan by security forces. Even Pak news sites report these. Go search them. You can verify each and everything I wrote by a simple Google search. Go do it yourself. Your GK is very weak.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Fell short of words this time, didn't you? Do I really need to tell you of attacks on Shias, Hazaras, Ahmedis, Balochs in your own country? It's a shame that you don't know the current affairs of your own country. Ever heard of Abdus Salam? The word Muslim was removed from his grave. You people are forced to sign a declaration that Ahmedis are not Muslims and their prophet is not a prophet while applying for passport. There have been countless kidnappings, rapes, murders and disappearances in Baluchistan by security forces. Even Pak news sites report these. Go search them. You can verify each and everything I wrote by a simple Google search. Go do it yourself. Your GK is very weak.

What we do in our country with Muslims is our problem who r u to say that as after all we r a Muslim country arnt we?

Anyways there r a lot of off topic posts going here and i told u to provide proof and u didnt which means r clearly lying.

And i also have cleared my say on this and our country's position.

 

[Chronos]

Keep posting guys much appreciated

 

[Ajatashatru]

What we do in our country with Muslims is our problem who r u to say that as after all we r a Muslim country arnt we?

Anyways there r a lot of off topic posts going here and i told u to provide proof and u didnt which means r clearly lying.

And i also have cleared my say on this and our country's position.

Really do you have any IQ at all? Doesn't your internet support Google, Pak census website, Pak news sites and international news sites? Proof is all there, if you read them.
PressTV - Gunmen kill three Shia Muslims in Pakistan
Baluch activists stage long march to protest thousands allegedly abducted by Pakistani forces | Fox News
Baloch Kidnappings Inspire 400 Mile March | Sharnoff's Global Views
Minority branch of Islam calls Sharon home - South - The Boston Globe
PAKISTAN:Entire Ahmadi family targeted in sectarian killings | Scoop News
Pakistani Hindus worst victims of rape: US report - Times Of India
Gunmen attack mineworkers' truck in southwest Pakistan, killing 6 Shiite miners | Fox News
Religious tension in Pakistan as Muslims dig up Hindu grave| Reuters

These links can go on forever.

 

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