PICS 10-1-2009 TIAN'ANMEN BEIJING

[grey boy 2]

A special dedication to an ungrateful once south vietnamese;

Vietnamese Refuees and Migrants

Since 1975, Hong Kong has received more than 200 000 people from Vietnam. Up to the end of 2003, more than 143 000 Vietnamese refugees had resettled in other countries and more than 72 000 Vietnamese migrants had been repatriated.

With the formal conclusion of the internationally agreed Comprehensive Plan of Action and in view of the changed circumstances in Vietnam, the HKSAR ended the 'Port of First Asylum' policy for Vietnamese with effect from January 9, 1998.

In practice, it means the special statutory provisions on the screening for refugee status and related review procedures for Vietnamese ceased to have effect on new arrivals from that date. These people are treated in the same way as illegal immigrants from elsewhere and will be repatriated as soon as possible.

On February 22, 2000, the Government announced a Widened Local Resettlement Scheme to allow some 1 400 Vietnamese refugees and eligible Vietnamese migrants to apply for settlement in Hong Kong. As a corollary, the last refugee centre (Pillar Point Vietnamese Refugees Centre) in Hong Kong was closed on June 1, 2000. Thus the Vietnamese programme on which Hong Kong had worked for 25 years was concluded in an orderly, peaceful and humanitarian manner. By the end of 2003, a total of 960 Vietnamese refugees and 437 Vietnamese migrants had applied under the scheme to make Hong Kong their permanent home.
Hong Kong 2003 - Population and Immigration
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Security Bureau: http://www.gov.hk/sb

Immigration Department: Immigration Department | ¤J¹Ò¨Æ°È³B

Census and Statistics Department: http://www.gov.hk/censtatd

 

[Merilion]

On the contrary...This thread is a very appropriate place to challenge communism. When Democrats want to challenge Republicans, they do not go to a PETA gathering, correct?

Again, what's the title of this thread? Cannot u open a new thread in some other section to challenge communism?
who cares Democrats or Republicans go or not go to a PETA gathering? Stick to the topic!

 

[Adios Amigo]

On the contrary...This thread is a very appropriate place to challenge communism.

To hell with your democracy,who the hell are you to challenge their system of government.who the hell are you to forcefully impose your ideas on a soveregin nation.surely do challenge and kill any if any such system is in your homeland, but dont BS about others,its the way they want it, and they will keep it till they like it,doesnt matter wether you hate it ir like it. but nay, u must pook your dirty nose in other,s affairs, y not to start from WMD,oh sorry didnt find it,cause the Iraqis ate them for their breakfastso now wat??? lets change the damn regime and kill a copule of million people in the name of your damn democracy.was it Democracy or oil doesnt matter its all the same. lets move on and find some new prospects literally you have transformed to the most civilized barbaric nation of the world

For rest of forum members> please refrain from feeding the troll.dont reply and his brain farts will die on it own.

 

[gambit]

Again, what's the title of this thread? Cannot u open a new thread in some other section to challenge communism?
who cares Democrats or Republicans go or not go to a PETA gathering? Stick to the topic!

Guess the analogy is lost upon you.

 

[gambit]

To hell with your democracy,who the hell are you to challenge their system of government.who the hell are you to forcefully impose your ideas on a soveregin nation.

Just curious...Did you ask this of the Soviet Union and China when they had no hesitancy about meddling in the affairs of other countries? Funny...Now that the Soviet Union is gone and the communist world fell to tatters...Boo-hoo-hoo...Poor CCP of China.

 

[grey boy 2]

A special dedication to an ungrateful once south vietnamese;

The suffering of the Vietnamese Boat people before Chinese save

them, feed them, most of all provide them a safe shelter.

When the Americans lost the Vietnam War there were many who did not wish to stay in Vietnam. Those with influence were airlifted out by the Americans but many had to make do with crowding onto leaky boats and making the journey from Vietnam to the gulf of Thailand. In doing so they unwittingly wrote themselves into modern pirate history.

Conditions were perfect for piracy. The local fishermen were poor and were looking for an easy means to supplement their income. The Vietnamese government did not care about them and the Thai government was not anxious to receive large boatloads of refugees. No one cared about the fate of the boat people so allegations of piracy were often ignored. It was only when the incidents became more shocking that pressure was brought to bear on the Thai government by maritime interests led by the Americans. By then thousands had been robbed, raped and murdered. What follows are some examples:

In the early eighties an American, Ted Schweitzer, landed on a pirate island and heard how 238 refugees had been shipwrecked there. Eighty had been killed and the women were raped and forced to dance naked. Schweitzer tried to stop this but was knocked unconscious. He was lucky to live. When he awoke he found dismembered limbs and evidence of cannibalism.
Ngoyen Phan Thuy booked a passage out of Vietnam with her mother, aunt and younger sister. After ten days at sea the boat was stranded and without food or water. They were attacked by pirates, who shot her aunt. An old man's gold teeth were ripped out of his mouth with pliers and a woman's baby was thrown into the sea. The survivors were made to strip and then landed on the beach and their boat was sunk. The women were lined up and Phan and a girl called Lien were selected and taken on board a fishing boat. Over the next three weeks both girls were repeatedly raped. Lien could not stand it and in the end the pirates could not stand her. She was thrown overboard. Phan was sold to a village brothel - "The Paradise Massage Parlour". She became pregnant but the baby was aborted with a bamboo stick. Eventually she escaped and was handed over to the UN.
In 1989 a boatload of 84 refugees were attacked by pirates. The women and children were transferred to the boats and never heard of again. The men were kept in the hold and brought up one by one to be clubbed to death. Eventually they panicked and tried to rush the pirates. The pirates rammed the boat to sink it. Some managed to escape but were pushed under water by poles. Thirteen survivors managed to escape by swimming away under cover of darkness.
In April 1989 seven pirates armed with a gun knives and hammers attacked 129 Vietnamese. The women were raped and all of them were slaughtered save one, Pham Ngoc Man Hung (seen pictured identifying the pirates), who survived by clinging onto a raft made out of three bloated corpses.
Eventually the Thai government was forced to take measures. Fishing boats had to be registered with a prominent number displayed on its prow. Boats were also photographed going in and out of port. This deterred many but those pirates who remained became more brutal and ruthless, ensuring there were no witnesses to identify them.

Pirate incidents petered out at the end of the eighties as the number of refugees decreased. It is fashionable nowadays for historians to assume that the barbarity of pirates was overrated and that pirates were basically career criminals. These more recent accounts are almost certainly not exaggerated and so it seems likely that many of those stories in the past were equally true.
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[Comet]

Just curious...Did you ask this of the Soviet Union and China when they had no hesitancy about meddling in the affairs of other countries? Funny...Now that the Soviet Union is gone and the communist world fell to tatters...Boo-hoo-hoo...Poor CCP of China.

Mr. Gambit, with due respect, I wanted to see some nice pictures in this thread. But, after wasting a lot of time, all I could find was Communism vs anti-communism(I don't know which system you belong to ).

Please start a new thread and enlighten me and other about the "EVILS" of communism and "GOODS" of (what ever the system you follow).

Regards,

UP

 

[Speeder]

Mr. Gambit, with due respect, I wanted to see some nice pictures in this thread. But, after wasting a lot of time, all I could find was Communism vs anti-communism(I don't know which system you belong to ).

Please start a new thread and enlighten me and other about the "EVILS" of communism and "GOODS" of (what ever the system you follow).

Regards,

UP

umairp,

I am sure that China's 60 aniversary parade, after a hugely successful Olympics, Space Walk, etc. China's metoric rise at large at all fronts on world stage has left someone far far behind, which has reasonablely driven some jealous wannabes to the verge of insanity, as we all witness here and there.


It's quite a fun to watch it though, since some of these lunatics usually managed to end up their gibberish to demean China's unrivaled achievements by putting up a forced smile like this:




Now that expression is officially insane!!!

 

[gambit]

umairp,

I am sure that China's 60 aniversary parade, after a hugely successful Olympics, Space Walk, etc. China's metoric rise at large at all fronts on world stage has left someone far far behind, which has reasonablely driven some jealous wannabes to the verge of insanity, as we all witness here and there.


It's quite a fun to watch it though, since some of these lunatics usually managed to end up their gibberish to demean China's unrivaled achievements by putting up a forced smile like this:




Now that expression is officially insane!!!

Unrivaled? Good heavens...Talk about a serious case of delusions.

 

[oct605032048]

Mr. Gambit, with due respect, I wanted to see some nice pictures in this thread. But, after wasting a lot of time, all I could find was Communism vs anti-communism(I don't know which system you belong to ).

Please start a new thread and enlighten me and other about the "EVILS" of communism and "GOODS" of (what ever the system you follow).

Regards,

UP

my dear friends

anyone who believe china is (or still) communist knows little about socialism and the ideal of communism, neither could he understand what is going on and what will happen in this country that just played a leading role in saving the capitalist world from a financial crisis.

as the result, all he said about china and his criticize and judgement are no more than Quixotic fighting against a fake giant in his own imagination and have nothing to do with the world in which he himself lives nor have any value.

i don't care of this old western style prejudice and childish pride against china but i do feel a little bit sad and sorry. 'coz many pakistan friends who attracted by the title of the tread, which was suppose to post some more pics about the landscape of the 60th anniversary of the people's republic, i opened here, may felt disappointed by finding themselves run into this mass due to paranoid imagination.

regards.

 

[gambit]

my dear friends

anyone who believe china is (or still) communist knows little about socialism and the ideal of communism, neither could he understand what is going on and what will happen in this country that just played a leading role in saving the capitalist world from a financial crisis.

Either China, like Japan and South Korea who bailed out Asia a while back, helped US who invested in China to help the country move out of the economic morass that is communism, or China can try to go alone and return to that economic morass.

as the result, all he said about china and his criticize and judgement are no more than Quixotic fighting against a fake giant in his own imagination and have nothing to do with the world in which he himself lives nor have any value.

i don't care of this old western style prejudice and childish pride against china but i do feel a little bit sad and sorry. 'coz many pakistan friends who attracted by the title of the tread, which was suppose to post some more pics about the landscape of the 60th anniversary of the people's republic, i opened here, may felt disappointed by finding themselves run into this mass due to paranoid imagination.

regards.

This is not about the Chinese people but about a regime operating under an ideology that held back such a people. Odd that everyone insists on holding the US 'accountable' for everything under the sun but when it comes to the communist party in China, it is all...

 

[oct605032048]

US and even as a enemy of ?US, we can certainly live better in the future. US investment in china is not so large and consist only a very limited proportion in all foreign investment. Hong kong plays a leading role in the fdi in china at least 3 or 4 times larger than us 's share and even europe and japan invests more than us does. and the annually 100 billion fdi is dwarfed by civil investment in china.

again, it is not about the regime(obviously it is a pragmatic one gone long without THE ideology) IT IS ABOUT THIS THREAD BEING DISTURBED IMPOLITELY.you want to argue or criticize just go and open your own thread.

if you don't know how, you can ask for help.

 

[warton]

gambit

you are so cute;really.

do you know why we can develop speedily.because we listen to anywords in the world.and study our need.we face to the world correctly.some advices;some comments;even some smear;we always amend ourselves so we can develop.

China was a very great country;in history;we got the NO.1 in the world;but we stop ourselves so we get behind. however;now we are
chasing world.the way is our choice;is the choice of chinese 1.3 billion people.maybe you do not like the way ;but who cares;this is not your business.that is ours. do you know please you do not make indiscreet remarks or criticisms to us ;you are not god. do you know how to spell this word-----r-e-s-p-e-c-t.please respect the choice of 1.3 billion chinese people.I believe that is start of civilization to understand respect.

the world is so huge .there are so many countries ;nations ;cultures and custom.because of these she is so beautiful and flowery.is not it good? is the ideology so important?look at these pictures;those smile faces are happiness;this is the same like another face in the world;they are all happiness.I trust that is the most important.please respect these happiness faces.thank you

you know what for CHINA .I know you read some books for China.but is that true?you believe that he says right for China and we are not right for China. I think that is funny.chinese people know well China less than a foreign person.you are so arrogant.you scoff at
1.3 billion chinese people so much;scoff at the wisdoms of 1.3 billion chinese people .if you have wisdom more than 1.3 billion chinese people.I think you are not here.maybe you stay in the sky;you will be god

now China is getting more and more stronger quickly.we do not fear;but I trust someone fearing.because they will lost their viscounty.you better laugh at full steam .because there is no more time.you think how many years you can keep your NO1viscounty.think about that.I believe that is not only your business but also your government.

sometimes;I think you are so lovely.you even believe your cleverness is better than a country.how can you think about that.China can keep developing speedily must be a reason.it prove the chosen way right ;it is good for us .just like you said .Communist Party is atrocity and depravity so much .why chinese people follow them .you think chinese people are so stupid that we can not distinguish truth.if like this .I only consider like it -----this is american haughty.

you always censure us ----this isnot good;that is not right.our system is not good;your system is nice .funny again.who can bring up the truth standard.maybe 100 countries are 100 the truth standard.which one is the truth.action of any person wants to parade their system better is funny.no one is perfect.we all need to study .if our regime is so miscreant;andwe develop speedily.do you believe that is logistic.a kind of superexcellence regime loss the game to a lagging regime .who can believe;I dont believe.I think it does not accord with logic.

just wake up .a nice system should get better than better for his people.now we are changing.we have time for changing but do you have any time .haha;maybe 20years or 30years who knows.I believe we all can see that .GDP exceed your country is not aim.because we have huge people.It is not glory for exceeding your country .let people happiness that is aim.we never be the world police.

do you feel ; here you are just like a zany;there is not courteous reception for you.if you are a Logos and brightness man ;I hope you can think about that.if not ;I dont want to say any thing to you again.

at last ;I declare my english is poor.so maybe there are some mistakes for spelling.or some solecism.I am sorry about that .my motherlanguage is chinese;I love her and be proud of her.if you can understand me ;I will appreciate you deeply;thanks

 

[Iggy]

Not Dirty, rather desperate attempt to hit a score against Pakistan and China.

By the way, we are happy that Indian soldiers will be looking for female soldiers instead of Kashmir women for their desires and they will be infecting many of their fellow soldiers be eating from the same vessel. So its good news for us in many ways.

I dont know why you blaming us??i case you didnt noticed not a single Indian write in this tread..its between US vs Chinese/Pakisthanis ..we are neutral here..so please dont make cheap comment about us..

 

[a1b2c145]

stop arguing useless things here， we need to be frends whether you are indins or chinese or pakstan