Physicist admits sending US space know-how to China

[daredevil]

Another attempt by china to copy things.

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Physicist admits sending US space know-how to China

by Jo Biddle
2 hrs 32 mins ago
WASHINGTON (AFP) – A Chinese-born physicist Monday pleaded guilty before a US court to illegally exporting American military space know-how to China, US officials said.
Naturalized US citizen Shu Quan-Sheng, admitted handing over to Beijing information on the design and development of a fueling system for space launch vehicles between 2003 and 2007, the Justice Department said.
Shu, 68, pleaded guilty to violating the Arms Export Control Act by helping Chinese officials based at the space facility on southern Hainan island to develop manned space flight and future missions to the Moon.
He also acknowledged he had sent them in December 2003 a specific military document detailing the design of liquid hydrogen tanks crucial to launching vehicles into space, the Justice Department said in a statement.
Shu, who is the head of a high-tech company, AMAC International, based in Newport News, Virginia, with offices in Beijing, admitted a third charge of bribing Chinese officials to the tune of some 189,300 dollars.
The bribes helped him to secure for an unidentified French company a four-million dollar contract for the development of a liquid hydrogen tank system, awarded to the French firm in January 2007.
Beijing is developing a liquid-propelled heavy payload launch facility at Hainan which will eventually send spacecraft into orbit carrying the material needed to build space stations and stallites.
Shu bribed three Chinese officials from Beijing's 101st Research Institute, which works at Hainan, along with other bodies including the People's Liberation Army armaments department, the Justice Department said.
China sent its first man into space in 2003, followed by a two-man mission in 2005.
The Shenzhou VII, China's third manned foray into space, blasted off from Jiuquan Satellite Launch Centre in northwest China in late September.
One of the three astronauts on board, Zhai Zhigang, became the first Chinese astronaut to successfully complete a space walk, and the crew was feted with a hero's welcome on its return to Earth.
Premier Wen Jiabao told the Chinese mission control's dozens of technicians the mission was "a victory for China's space and technological" programs.
"Your historical feat will be remembered by the country and the people," he said.
China is now planning to launch two more unmanned craft by 2010, as well as another manned spaceship with a crew of three to start work on a Chinese lab or space station.
The charges against Shu arise out of a probe led by the Federal Bureau of Investigation with US trade and customs officials.
Sentencing in Shu's case has been set for April 6, 2009. He faces a maximum of 10 years in prison and a million-dollar fine for each of the two violations of the Arms Control Act. He could also be sentenced to a further five years in prison for bribery.
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[genmirajborgza786]

Another attempt by china to copy things.

well it doesn't matter how one gets it as long as one has it THAT WHAT IS COUNTED to bad for the U.S no use crying or complaining i find that a very weak quality infact what else to expect from the stress of an outstreached military and a cruel drowing ecomical condition's. They are having its sinking feeling effects on the U.S so sad
as the famous QUOTE could sum up the thread artical quiet logically


To note an artist's limitations is but to define his talent. A reporter can write equally well about everything that is presented to his view, but a creative writer can do his best only with what lies within the range and character of his deepest sympathies.
Willa Cather

 

[Luftwaffe]

Its ok Americans stole everything after word war 2 lol

 

[jeypore]

Its ok Americans stole everything after word war 2 lol

Stole what? Infact American rebuilt countries they were fighting against.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Stole what? Infact American rebuilt countries they were fighting against.

German scientists in the Manhattan project etc.

 

[jeypore]

German scientists in the Manhattan project etc.

Come-on AM, all these countries where working on the same project, they gave the brightest germany scientist an incentive to work under US. And by the way more germany scientist where used for rocket propulsion then the fusion development.

 

[Neo]

Espionage and contra espionage is comon practice, even within the deveopped world. All countries including USA are guilty of it and what China is doing isn't new.

We've seen numerous western designs and technologies being copied or cloned in USSR. Tu-144 Tupolev "Concordski", the Tu-160 Blackjack and Russian spaceshutlle Buran are all copied designs.

Tu-144​

Tu-160​

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Russian Space Shuttle Buran​

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[asaad-ul-islam]

hehe, little do you guys know that Pakistan is at the forefront in industrial espionage!

do you think the ISI would just forget about the wing that stole technology to build nuclear weapons? if only you guys knew!

 

[Black Stone]

This is bad news for America. Sadly to say, we live in a cruel and a realistic world. Espionage is just one of the tools a nation could use to gather secrets or information from other countries.

In this situation you can only blame yourself for not protecting your secrets enough. This ofcourse applies to all nations who had secrets/information stolen by other nations.

It is part of the game, you just got to live with it.

 

[daredevil]

True, espionage is common to steal data/ideas etc. But the amount of espionage/reverse engineering done by China is astronomical as can been seen by their rapid growth in Aircraft technology, which is mostly inorganic in nature. Like this

Sukhoi piracy: Russia threatens to sue China

MOSCOW: Russia has threatened to sue China for copying its Sukhoi Su-27SK fighters and its pirate production
for export to Pakistan and other

Third World countries at much cheaper prices, a leading Russian daily reported
on Tuesday.

"Russia has officially notified China that the production of J11 (fighters), a copy of Russian Su-27SK, violates inter-governmental agreements. Moscow has vowed to launch legal procedures for the protection of its intellectual property," Nezavisimaya Gazeta said.

Under the 1996 agreement, China had the right to assemble 200 Su-27SK fighters under the local brand J11. However, after receiving 95 kits and 180 AL31F engines, Beijing in November 2004 notified Moscow that it no more needs Russian kits for the assembly of Su-27 fighters, saying that combat capabilities of the fighter were very limited and further action would be taken after analysis of production experience by Chinese experts, the paper said.

"It seems the analysis was successful, as in the beginning of 2007, China unveiled its 'development' — J11B fighter, suspiciously reminding of Su-27," the daily reported.

Now, Moscow seems to have completely stopped the deliveries of engines. The onboard Zhuk radar is one of the problem modules for China as from the very beginning it was supplied with limited combat capabilities, the report said.

"What irks Moscow most is that the 1996 agreement did not allow the re-export of J11 to third countries, but now Beijing is busy in the search for the markets of this fighter.

First in the queue is Pakistan," it said, adding China plans to build 5,000 J11B fighters. Given their cheap price, J11B fighters may wipe out not only Su-27, but also MiG-29 and US F-16 from the Third World markets.

 

[Keysersoze]

True, espionage is common to steal data/ideas etc. But the amount of espionage/reverse engineering done by China is astronomical as can been seen by their rapid growth in Aircraft technology, which is mostly inorganic in nature. Like this

Well thats how they have to catch up quickly.They have created a base from whcih fresh ideas can well. No point in re-inventing the wheel when it is not needed. I remember the Russians stole engine technology to make the first Migs.
Pretty much every Indian project is remake/copy.

 

[Keysersoze]

True, espionage is common to steal data/ideas etc. But the amount of espionage/reverse engineering done by China is astronomical as can been seen by their rapid growth in Aircraft technology, which is mostly inorganic in nature. Like this

The article you posted is amusing because the J-11 is outside of the agreement as most of the parts are now of Chinese manufacture. I would rate it up with all the RD-93 speculation.

 

[daredevil]

Well thats how they have to catch up quickly.They have created a base from whcih fresh ideas can well. No point in re-inventing the wheel when it is not needed. I remember the Russians stole engine technology to make the first Migs.
Pretty much every Indian project is remake/copy.

I do agree no need to reinvent the wheel. But if copying/reverse engineering is
the way to go then what is the point of IP rights. I'm sure, given this rate of inorganic way growth by China it will sure catchup with US sooner than later.

If India did copy A/C technology, LCA would not have been in the state that it is right now. LCA is started from scratch and that is the reason it took so long (25 years), because it is reinventing the wheel.

 

[Keysersoze]

I do agree no need to reinvent the wheel. But if copying/reverse engineering is
the way to go then what is the point of IP rights. I'm sure, given this rate of inorganic way growth by China it will sure catchup with US sooner than later.

If India did copy A/C technology, LCA would not have been in the state that it is right now. LCA is started from scratch and that is the reason it took so long (25 years), because it is reinventing the wheel.

Well let me tell you a little story.....The British government can copy any commercial product for its own uses. Why? because it is more efficient. When it comes to cutting edge technology then there will be more divergence as China would undoubtedly use its base gained to build upon. The Chinese are also known to be quite bright and industrious.

Lca is a mess for many reasons. Do you think if the Chinese ran the project it would be in the same place? Or would they suppress their ego's in order to create what was needed?

 

[daredevil]

Well let me tell you a little story.....The British government can copy any commercial product for its own uses. Why? because it is more efficient. When it comes to cutting edge technology then there will be more divergence as China would undoubtedly use its base gained to build upon. The Chinese are also known to be quite bright and industrious.

Lca is a mess for many reasons. Do you think if the Chinese ran the project it would be in the same place? Or would they suppress their ego's in order to create what was needed?

No doubt, chinese are quite bright and industrious in violating IP rights, even to do that you definitely need bright minds.

I'm not saying chinese are not bright, all I'm saying is they violated IP rights more than any country. Without giving credit to the creators of any technology is tantamount to cheating. Being an academic, I know more on how it feels when some body claims it's their creation without giving due credit to the creator.