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[Black Widow]

Deman is that God should be fair skinned and Rakshak's are Dark.. I am confused.

Can you comprehend sentences? d

 

[Farooq]

I have already explained my choice of source earlier. I will copy paste the same explanation as you seem to have missed it:

Firstly Fox news is discussing the integration of Muslims in the West. Trust me I know more about American politics and media than you(I have spent quite a bit of time on the other side of the border in Silicon Valley ). I know about Herman Cain dropping out due to a love affair outside his marriage (or his revolutionary 9-9-9 economic policy), Rick Sanotrum announcing his withdrawal from president candidacy a couple days ago and so on. Yeah I know Fox news is a right wing source (compared to MSNBC or CNN), and shows like Jon Stewart and Colbert mock it 24/7 (I love both of them). But the thing is majority of Americans watch Fox News and this is what they get to hear and this is how they think. I dont stand by any of the points raised in the news clip I showed you, I disagree with them, but to say that Muslims are integrated into the society when one of the largest media corporations essentially is asking for a ban on Muslim immigration shows the vulnerability of your point.

Everything you mentioned is common knowledge and nothing really to flaunt your "knowledge" about. As far as integration, I think you are confusing my argument with someone else's

 

[LURKER]

All the Rakshak of Hindu religious text are dark skinned south Indian. But all the Gods including Rama Sita etc. are fair skinned (May be from north India). So yes South India did belong to Hinduism but only as Rakshak.

krishna was dark skinned and from mathura

 

[Developereo]

What exactly is your definition of conquer? Belief systems move around, does not always need conquering.

Conquest is when indigenous belief systems get replaced by those introduced from elsewhere.

Brilliant argument that! you have no proof of any conquest, so you hide behind the absolute loss of memory argument. Therefore if there is no evidence of conquest, it's because we have forgotten it.

Most of the conquests are lost in antiquity and, as victors write history, have been eradicated. However, even in myth, we find kernels of truth. One story is that of Agastya killing the Rakshasa. Agastya came from the North and killed the wicked, nonbelieving Rakshasa and brought enlightenment to the land.

The Tamils have a somewhat different view of things.

Err... enlighten us please, what is it exactly that the Tamils remember?

Again, no spoon-feeding. Tamils literature claims to span 10,000 years, long before the Vedas. They had a culture before the Vedas.

 

[indian_jigar]

Everything you mentioned is common knowledge and nothing really to flaunt your "knowledge" about. As far as integration, I think you are confusing my argument with someone else's

I think you just jumped the wrong argument. I was responding to someone who said that Muslims are well integrated into Western society. My initial common knowledge as you call it was unnecessary but a reply to someone who claimed how I have no idea of how American politics or media work. My point stands, if you were being integrated so well into society, one of the biggest media corporations would not be asking for a ban on your communities immigration into the nation. And this is not even close to 0.0001 % of the news websites or articles I can come up with to support my argument.

Frankly it becomes painfully clear that you are not integrated as a community in the Western world when your women roam around in tents here in the streets of Toronto while the other women freely choose what to wear, or the fact that Anjem Choudhary and other wannabe Muslims like him are out to impose Sharia in their respective Western countries, clearly not happy or integrating with the current social fabric of the West.

 

[Guli Danda]

I doubt it. Indian blood may be the cheapest, as Indians beat on other Indians they feel are inferior(Dalits). Indians get beat on/treated as slaves in the gulf countries, worse than cattle, and Indians get robbed and abused here in the US. Post 9-11, it wasn't Pakistanis getting beaten up, but Sikhs and Hindus.

True story.

Still never an Indian was forced to pose as a Pakistani..but the reverse is true..Ignorance is a bliss

 

[indian_jigar]

Conquest is when indigenous belief systems get replaced by those introduced from elsewhere.



Most of the conquests are lost in antiquity and, as victors write history, have been eradicated. However, even in myth, we find kernels of truth. One story is that of Agastya killing the Rakshasa. The Tamils have a somewhat different view of things.



Again, no spoon-feeding. Tamils literature claims to span 10,000 years, long before the Vedas. They had a culture before the Vedas.

You cant spoon-feed because no such thing existed. Stop trying to bring us down to your level. We aint converts like you. If we are, prove it right now. Else shut it with your vague comments with 0 facts and find a new thread to troll.

 

[Developereo]

You cant spoon-feed because no such thing existed. Stop trying to bring us down to your level. We aint converts like you. If we are, prove it right now. Else shut it with your vague comments with 0 facts and find a new thread to troll.

Are you seriously denying that Tamils claim to have a history going back 10,000 years? Ask a Tamil, they will be happy to tell you.

 

[indian_jigar]

Are you seriously denying that Tamils claim to have a history going back 10,000 years? Ask a Tamil, they will be happy to tell you.

Another vague comment


You dont seem to be a man of logic. Some scientific facts for you:
Age of Earth - 4.5 Billion years
According to scientific theories of Human Evolution, modern humans evolved from the last common ancestor of the Hominini and the species Australopithecines some 2.3-2.4 million years ago in Africa. The human race as a whole has a history of hundreds of thousands of years. Tamils (and other Indians/humans) have had their cultures like languages and customs for thousands of years, but they had no religion. We (Indians) are the founders and caretakers of Dharmic values.

 

[Vinod2070]

Every religion uses that word. It is a valid word for someone who converts.

You, on the other hand, use it in an ancestral sense with a specific connotation.

Oh, we know exactly what "connotation" you intend to convey by that word.

See, there are two possibilities.

One: You just move on and break all connection with your ancestors' history and belief system. That is what typically happens with Islamic converts. As per Sir Naipaul: Islam makes imperialist demands and forces Muslims to adapt Arab history. They start feeling that all was jahiliyah pre Islam and by extension their ancestors were Jahil and the Muslim invaders did a great "ahsaan" on them by saving their souls.

Even that is fine with us. As I said, we have no tradition of killing our apostates.

Just don't abuse the religion of your own ancestors. Don't abuse people who still follow that faith system. Don't denigrate the identity of your own ancestors because there are a large number still identifying with that great legacy.

You do that and you invite a reaction. Newton's third law.

And the reaction will not be to your liking. By definition.

Second option: Truly move on. Become Central Asians, Arabs, Persians, Turks whatever and stop obsessing with India in every damn thing.

Leave us alone and we leave you alone.

I prefer the second option. Nothing to do with each other.

 

[indian_jigar]

See, there are two possibilities.

One: You just move on and break all connection with your ancestors' history and belief system. That is what typically happens with Islamic converts. As per Sir Naipaul: Islam makes imperialist demands and forces Muslims to adapt Arab history. They start feeling that all was jahiliyah pre Islam and by extension their ancestors were Jahil and the Muslim invaders did a great "ahsaan" on them by saving their souls.

Even that is fine with us. As I said, we have no tradition of killing our apostates.

Just don't abuse the religion of your own ancestors. Don't abuse people who still follow that faith system. Don't denigrate the identity of your own ancestors because there are a large number still identifying with that great legacy.

You do that and you invite a reaction. Newton's third law.

And the reaction will not be to your liking. By definition.

Second option: Truly move on. Become Central Asians, Arabs, Persians, Turks whatever and stop obsessing with India in every damn thing.

Leave us alone and we leave you alone.

I prefer the second option. Nothing to do with each other.

Off topic, but as a Computer Engineer, your signature made me LOL.

 

[Awesome]

Muslims should not live in this racist country and they should return to their native lands as a sign of protest.

Why didn't you say that to the African Americans who fought against slavery and racism?

They can just change the way the country works. Fight everything wrong, don't be afraid of it. It's their country too.

 

[Vinod2070]

Are you seriously denying that Tamils claim to have a history going back 10,000 years? Ask a Tamil, they will be happy to tell you.

There are many Tamils here including KS.

They will be happy to provide the facts.

You people never move on. You know that there was some political issue with some Tamil politicians not preferring to join India in the 50s. It was sorted out and Tamils are patriotic Indians, some of the most fiercely so.

And they are some of the most devout Hindus.

But you are stuck in that 50s talk of political issues and extrapolate that to religion which was never an issue. You keep hoping against hope that India will break again. That is the underlying thought process.

And that is why that "khitab".

Choose option 2.

 

[Bang Galore]

Conquest is when indigenous belief systems get replaced by those introduced from elsewhere.

That is a bit of a stretch isn't it? Especially if you do not require violence as a prerequisite to make that claim. Pretty much, all of have been conquered since you no longer believe what your ancestors believed exactly. Maybe even the fact that you use English......

Most of the conquests are lost in antiquity and, as victors write history, have been eradicated. However, even in myth, we find kernels of truth. One story is that of Agastya killing the Rakshasa. Agastya came from the North and killed the wicked, nonbelieving Rakshasa and brought enlightenment to the land.

Will need a bit more than that to base that argument on. The population & languages haven't changed that much to support your argument. While there most certainly would have been exchange of ideas, with some gaining currency & others not it still would be a very big, unsupported leap to imagine a complete & total conquest.

Again, no spoon-feeding. Tamils literature claims to span 10,000 years, long before the Vedas. They had a culture before the Vedas.

Means nothing. All Indian cultures/regions make similar claims, including in the religious scriptures sometimes stretching the timeline to ridiculously high levels. Proof is what is necessary.

 

[Vinod2070]

Why didn't you say that to the African Americans who fought against slavery and racism?

They can just change the way the country works. Fight everything wrong, don't be afraid of it. It's their country too.

May be they can truly start this great thing in their own countries.

All Islamic countries are "Islamic". They don't treat non Muslims equally. Almost none of them.

First demand of yourself what you demand of others.