Pew Research: Fewer Pray in Islamic Republic of Pakistan Than in India, Iran

[HannibalBarca]

As you become richer you stop believe in fairy tales because you have more confidence in your control over your life.

BTW the US situation is explained by the lack of free healthcare. The uncertainty that creates is why they cling to religion.

The most religious of my "entourage" including Friends/Families... are those "with Money or with High social status"... By contrast the "poor" is equally or even less Religious...

But that "I'm Rich and Therefore not religious"... is BS...

 

[Abdussamad]

The most religious of my "entourage" including Friends/Families... are those "with Money or with High social status"... By contrast the "poor" is equally or even less Religious...

But that "I'm Rich and Therefore not religious"... is BS...

These are statistics for whole countries not anecdotes from your personal life.

 

[GumNaam]

As soon as I saw "pew", I stopped reading... morons said hillary, but here we are!

 

[HannibalBarca]

These are statistics for whole countries not anecdotes from your personal life.

The above stats do not target your "POV"...
The research isn't about "Rich believe less"...

Those rich "Nations" mostly Europe... aren't Religious in the first place... Kids aren't born in a particular religious environment... But if you take Countries with Deep Religious belief AND High incomes... aka Gulf states... you will have a different image...

 

[Abdussamad]

Those rich "Nations" mostly Europe... aren't Religious int he first place... Kids aren't born in a particular religious environment...

Because their parents were rich too and gave up on religion.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Because their parents were rich too and gave up on religion.

Neither... The Social-Political view made people to behave in a different way...
Therefore by losing that religious sense generation after generation... the "Religious Duty faded...

It's like Education...you can't Educate your kid about something you didn't receive...

 

[Crusher]

The most religious of my "entourage" including Friends/Families... are those "with Money or with High social status"... By contrast the "poor" is equally or even less Religious...

But that "I'm Rich and Therefore not religious"... is BS...

Totally agree with you, I sometimes feel there could be a genetic reason in some to be more spiritual/religious than others, it surely has nothing to do with wealth. Spirituality or religious pleasure/association is an internal feeling, it has nothing to do with money or resources etc. In Pakistan also the poor people are the least religious people, for example an uncle of one of my friends who is just a poor driver has never ever prayed in his life, not even on eid days.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Totally agree with you, I sometimes feel there could be a genetic reason in some to be more spiritual/religious than others, it surely has nothing to do with wealth. Spirituality or religious pleasure/association is an internal feeling, it has nothing to do with money or resources etc. In Pakistan also the poor people are the least religious people, for example one of uncle of my friend who is just a poor driver has never ever prayed in his life, not even on eid days.

Yes, it doesn't depend upon "Wealth" never was... never will...
That research shouldn't be taken as such... it isn't meant to answer the Q of "Will a Rich Muslim/Christian/Jew be less religious than a Poor Muslim/Christian/Jew?"
But more about a hypothetical correlation about "Incomes of a specific Society and Religiosity"

 

[AUz]

This study proves that Pakistan is far less religious than it is portrayed.

This study proves that Pakistan is far less religious than it is portrayed.

Pakistan is more religious than india (or Iran for that matter).

PEW studies have shown that again and again.

Stop posting dumb things based on one picture without actually studying whole studies. Lol

PEW has two set of questions

Q-1 Do you pray several times a day?

Q-2 Do you pray once a day?

Pakistan ranks higher than india and Iran on "pray several times a day"......while the graph posted by @RiazHaq only shows "pray once a day"....and hence hiding the fact that Pakistan actually comes out far more religious in the survey than portray by a misleading picture.

The best indicator of a society's religiosity would be social values survey.....That shows the public morality and how much religion is practiced by society at large. Here's the PEW social values survey comparison of India and Pakistan

As you can see, whether its Premarital Sex, or alcohol consumption, or homosexuality---Pakistanis are far more religiously conservative than indians. And that's just one metric. You are welcome to look at PEW's importance of religion data, worship attendance data, prayer data (as I explained above), and so on---Every single metric points towards same fact i.e Pakistan being more religious than india.

You have to be stupid to deny something THAT obvious

 

[PakSword]

67% is very high.Real figure is around 30%.

If the prayer is considered going to a mosque daily then I would say less than 2%

But if it is a prayer to ask Allah about something, then 99% in Pakistan as even "Salam Alaikum" is a prayer.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Our iron brothers ~ China only 1% pray. Toba. Toba. Toba.

 

[AUz]

As you become richer you stop believe in fairy tales because you have more confidence in your control over your life.

BTW the US situation is explained by the lack of free healthcare. The uncertainty that creates is why they cling to religion.

This is literally the dumbest post I've seen on this thread

You sound like a burger boy that tends to repeat the most basic, most cliche' bullsh*t to sound 'KeWL' and 'InTeLLeCtUALL"

Especially your explanation of U.S prayer figures and lack of free healthcare

Read post number#25 and may be it will help you a little bit about how statistics actually work when it comes to study of religion

 

[Yankee-stani]

Our iron brothers ~ China only 1% pray. Toba. Toba. Toba.

I was expecting Russia and Japan to be much lower

This is literally the dumbest post I've seen on this thread

You sound like a burger boy that tends to repeat the most basic, most cliche' bullsh*t to sound 'KeWL' and 'InTeLLeCtUALL"

Especially your explanation of U.S prayer figures and lack of free healthcare

I hate the burger pseudo liberals more than the moulvi types but equal garbage to me

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Totally agree with you, I sometimes feel there could be a genetic reason in some to be more spiritual/religious than others, it surely has nothing to do with wealth.

It's all about wealth. Your suggestion of 'genetics' is abdsurd. And before you cite Saudia or UAE, give it time. It requires at least 4-5 generations removed from real poverty. About 5 generations of living comfortablity begins to eat away religion from the majority ~ although you will always have outliers who will remain religious. But we are talking about overall trends.

 

[AUz]

It's all about wealth. Your suggestion of 'genetics' is abdsurd. And before you cite Saudia or UAE, give it time. It requires at least 4-5 generations removed from real poverty. About 5 generations of living comfortablity begins to eat away religion from the majority ~ although you will always have outliers who will remain religious. But we are talking about overall trends.

Lol, another one of your bongi with half-baked facts sprinkled with personal, unfounded opinions.

Just stop.

You have never studied religions and especially statistical models that are used to measure religiosity at societal levels (Breaking News: I have. Worked in the field, actually).

Wealth and education do not always explain the lack of religiosity in society. ALOT of other factors play into it. Take for example Turkey---its relatively wealthy, educated, politically secular, and very Westernized (culturally/and institutionally)---yet, Turkey is very religious relatively compared to its geographical surroundings with similar levels of wealth, westernization of culture, and similar political systems (Greece, Eastern Europe, Russia, Poland, Israel, and so on).

Can you explain why?

Here's a hint: Islam

Some religions are built to exert far greater influence on society than others (everything else the same). Islam and Orthodox Judaism are an example (both are legalistic faiths and not Creedal faiths like Christianity).

I can literally teach an undergrad class on it, but oh well---this is PDF.....enjoy with your internet theories fellas!

Furthermore, just like human history--- the history of religion does not travel in linear lines. More like in cycles. Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Indonesia, Malaysia, Algeria, and Egypt of today are more wealthy, more educated, more open societies----and more religious compared to say 1960's. By your theory, they would have been less religious today, no? But its not as simple.

Btw, the entire premise of this thread is wrong. @RiazHaq is mistakenly (I presume?) misrepresenting the actual data from PEW. Please read post#25 as I've explained it there.

Pakistan is far more religious society than India according to PEW's very own data

Anyways, good day