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2 Nov 2008


ISLAMABAD (Sabir Shakir): The new head of US Central Command General David Petraeus and Assistant Secretary of State for South Asia Richard Boucher arrived in Islamabad here tonight (Sunday) to hold talks with Pakistani officials, reported ARY OneWorld.

The US officials will meet Minister of Defence Ahmed Mukhtar, Chief of Army Staff Gen. Ashfaque Pervez Kyani and other key officials in Islamabad.

The visiting American officials will discuss bilateral ties with special focus on the war against terrorism.

Gen. Petraeus and Boucher would discuss the recently passed parliament resolution against US strikes in Pakistani territory, sources said.

General David Petraeus, has recently taken over charge as the new head of Central Command with responsibility for America’s wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
 

2 Nov 2008

DERA ISMAIL KHAN, Pakistan (AP) — Gen. David Petraeus, newly tasked with responsibility for America's two wars, arrived in Pakistan on Sunday as part of his first international trip as head of the U.S. Central Command.

Petraeus' trip signals Pakistan's crucial role in the fight against terrorism, particularly the escalating war in neighboring Afghanistan.

But it also comes amid tensions over suspected American missile strikes in Pakistan — a U.S. ally threatened with financial ruin, torn by an Islamic insurgency and armed with nuclear weapons.

Petraeus, who took the new position on Friday after 20 months as the top U.S. commander in Baghdad, was accompanied by U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Richard Boucher, the U.S. Embassy confirmed late Sunday.

Acting embassy spokesman Wes Robertson declined to provide specifics of the schedule for the two Americans but said they would meet with government and military officials.

In Pakistan's northwest border region, a suicide bomber detonated his vehicle at a checkpoint on Sunday, killing eight troops just hours before Petraeus' arrival.

The attacker rammed his vehicle at a checkpoint near the main gate of the Zalai Fort as Frontier Corps troops gathered nearby, said Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas, the Pakistan army's top spokesman. Eight people died and four were wounded, he said.

The fort is 12 miles outside Wana, the main town in South Waziristan, a tribal region considered a hub for al-Qaida and Taliban fighters involved in attacks on U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan.

South Waziristan was the site of one of two suspected U.S. missile attacks on Friday that killed 29 people, including several suspected foreign militants, intelligence officials said.

It was not immediately clear if Sunday's suicide attack was linked to the missile strikes, which have strained Pakistan's alliance with the U.S. and spurred militant calls for revenge. Pakistani troops have been frequent targets of escalating attacks by militants who want the country to end its support of the U.S.

The Pakistani troops were washing their vehicles Sunday when the suicide attacker came, two intelligence officials said. They described the explosion as "large" and said it destroyed the checkpoint and damaged the front wall of the fort.

The intelligence officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to media. It was not possible to immediately verify the details. South Waziristan is a dangerous, remote area where travel by foreigners and many journalists is restricted.

Under American pressure, Pakistan has deployed security forces throughout its northwest in an attempt to tamp down growing militancy.

Washington is suspected in at least 17 missile strikes in northwestern Pakistan since August, a potential indication that the U.S. is not satisfied with Pakistan's efforts.

Pakistan routinely protests the missile attacks as violations of its sovereignty, but the strikes have continued nonetheless.

In a statement Sunday, Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani condemned the suicide attack in South Waziristan, saying he "deplored the loss of innocent lives."
 
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This is all they have to say every time. Are they Doing Enough ? Why always Pressurize Pakistan.
 
The funny part is that any pressure by the United States doesn't effect Pakistan. Pakistan does what it wants to do.. and it succeeds. Just look at the news of Mehsud surrendering unconditionally. We do it right.
 
The funny part is that any pressure by the United States doesn't effect Pakistan. Pakistan does what it wants to do.. and it succeeds. Just look at the news of Mehsud surrendering unconditionally. We do it right.

I agree but i hope we can persuade them to give up the unilateral strikes which are hurting the reputation of Pakistan. Yes, we got it right this time bcoz of the sustained and unflinching effort by the military without any 'deals' :victory:
 
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Pakistan and the U.S. had a chance to sort through tensions in their anti-terror alliance Monday as David Petraeus, the general newly tasked with responsibility for America's two wars, visited the Muslim nation.

Petraeus' visit is part of his first international trip since taking over U.S. Central Command on Friday. It is a sign of how crucial the U.S. considers Pakistan's support in the fight against Islamist extremists, especially those in neighboring Afghanistan. The general was accompanied by Richard Boucher, an assistant U.S. secretary of state.

The trip comes amid Pakistan's frustration over a surge in suspected U.S. missile strikes on alleged militant targets on its soil.

The U.S. wants Pakistan to do more to crack down on insurgents who use pockets of its northwest region as sanctuaries from which to plan attacks on U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan, where violence is running at its highest levels since 2001.

Pakistan has launched military operations against insurgent strongholds in its northwest, but the missile strikes in that region have signaled American impatience with Pakistani efforts.

Washington is suspected in at least 17 missile strikes in Pakistan since August. Pakistan condemns the attacks as violations of its sovereignty, but the strikes have continued.

In September, a U.S. ground assault in a tribal region in Pakistan's northwest spurred outrage in Pakistan and prompted a flurry of diplomatic activity. There have been no reports of additional such ground assaults since.

Another topic that could come up during Petraeus' visit is negotiations with the Taliban. Pakistani and Afghan leaders have vowed to seek talks with elements of the militant movement.

Petraeus, previously the top U.S. commander in Baghdad, has indicated support for efforts to reach out to members of the Taliban considered moderate enough to seek an accommodation with the Afghan government.

Acting U.S. Embassy spokesman Wes Robertson declined to provide specifics on the agenda or what would be discussed during this visit, but said Boucher and Petraeus would meet with a range of Pakistani government and military officials.

Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and Pakistan's army chief, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, were expected to be among them.

Petraeus visits shaky anti-terror ally Pakistan | World news | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle
 
Big guns in town, mabye somthing to do with paying Mr.10% his quota to keep mum on whats about to go down. In other words "Hammer out some business"...
 

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan – Pakistani officials warned Gen. David Petraeus on Monday that frequent missile strikes on militant targets in Pakistan fan anti-American sentiment in an Islamic country vital to the struggle against terrorism.

The new U.S. commander of America's wars in Afghanistan and Iraq met Pakistani officials, including Defense Minister Ahmad Mukhtar and army chief Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, as part of his first international trip since taking over U.S. Central Command three days earlier.

There is growing U.S. concern about how Islamic militants are using pockets of Pakistan's northwest region as sanctuaries from which to support the escalating insurgency in neighboring Afghanistan.

Complaints from U.S. commanders about Pakistan's efforts to counter the insurgents have been accompanied by a surge of missile strikes, which have continued despite strong condemnation from Islamabad.

A Defense Ministry statement said Mukhtar told Petraeus and Assistant Secretary of State Richard Boucher that the missile strikes from drones "generate anti-America sentiments as well as create outrage and uproar among the people."

Washington is suspected in at least 17 missile strikes in Pakistan since August.

In September, a U.S. ground assault in a tribal region in Pakistan's northwest spurred particular outrage in Pakistan, whose pro-Western government must be mindful of widespread resentment of U.S. policy in the region. There have been no reports of additional ground assaults since.

Acting U.S. Embassy spokesman Wes Robertson declined to provide specifics on Petraeus' agenda for security reasons. However, he also is expected to meet with Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and President Asif Ali Zardari.

At the Defense Ministry, officials briefed Petraeus on Pakistani military operations against insurgents in its border regions. According to the statement, both sides "stressed the need for enhanced cooperation to eliminate the scourge of terrorism."

A military statement said Petraeus met with Kayani and the chairman of Pakistan's joint chiefs of staff, General Tariq Majid.

It gave no indication of what message Petraeus delivered.

Majid told the U.S. delegation that the two countries needed a "consensus strategy to deal with violent extremism" that "keeps in view the local perspective," the statement said.

It was unclear if Petraeus addressed vows from Pakistani and Afghan leaders to seek talks with elements of the Taliban.

Petraeus, previously the top U.S. commander in Baghdad, has indicated support for efforts to reach out to members of the Taliban considered moderate enough to cooperate with the Afghan government.
 
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Nov 4, 2008

ISLAMABAD: Washington’s new top war general said he would consider Pakistan’s rising criticism of US missile strikes on suspected militant targets in the country’s border regions.

Pakistani military and government leaders told Gen. David Petraeus that such cross-border strikes fanned anti-American sentiment in an allied country considered vital to success in the war on terror. Petraeus was likely to hear more of the same in meetings set for Tuesday.

In an interview with CNN, Petraeus confirmed the Pakistani criticisms in Monday’s sessions.

‘In fact, we got certain messages with each of those we talked today and some of those were very clear and we have to take those on board,’ CNN quoted Petraeus as saying.

‘The tone of the conversation was very frank and very forthright, as it should be,’ he added later.

Petraeus was in Pakistan as part of his first international trip since taking over US Central Command last week. He so far has met with President Asif Ali Zardari and army chief Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani among other senior leaders.

President Asif Ali Zardari told Petraeus and US Assistant Secretary of State Richard Boucher that the attacks from drone aircraft should be stopped.

‘Continuing drone attacks on our territory, which result in loss of precious lives and property, are counterproductive and difficult to explain by a democratically elected government,’ Zardari was quoted as saying.

Defence Minister Ahmad Mukhtar said in a statement after his meeting with Petraeus that the missile strikes could ‘create outrage and uproar among the people.’

But his statement also noted that both sides ‘stressed the need for enhanced cooperation to eliminate the scourge of terrorism.’
 
Petraeus says he’ll consider criticism
Wednesday, November 05, 2008

ISLAMABAD: New US Central Command (CENTCOM) chief General David Petraeus said on Tuesday he would consider Pakistan’s rising criticism of US missile strikes in its Tribal Areas. “We got certain messages with each of those we talked today and some of those were very clear and we have to take those on board,” CNN quoted Petraeus as saying. “The tone of the conversation today was very frank and very forthright, which is as it should be,” he added. Petraeus said Pakistani leaders recognised the threat from extremism and were ‘very serious’ about dealing with it.
Petraeus also said he had discussed suspicions that elements in Pakistan’s spy service have been secretly colluding with the Taliban, but declined to say whether he thought that was the case. ap
 
We cannot rely on such partners. There is a need to show those guests that their behaviour is inacceptable. Alliance without reliance will fail and US is failing at the moment.
 
"Alliance without reliance will fail and US is failing at the moment."

Stop the soap-box pontifications with your hand on our wallets. It's tacky.

Reject the aid. Simple.:agree:

Thanks.
 
"Alliance without reliance will fail and US is failing at the moment."

Stop the soap-box pontifications with your hand on our wallets. It's tacky.

Reject the aid. Simple.:agree:

Thanks.

You guys keep acting in a condescending manner, and lording it over us for teh sake of a few measly Aid dollars.

The amount of 'Aid' pakistan has received (actually loans, with interest charged) has been of such inconsequential value, that even giving it back will hardly affect us, since it hasn't benefited us in the first place.

Pakistanis are desperate to reject Aid, and this is what our politicians promise. However, their greed, and the West's opportunism always seems to hold sway.

Your Aid ain't worth shite, and I'd like to push it back down your throats.
 

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