Peshawar school attackers mostly Pakistan nationals: DG ISPR!

[MilSpec]

I won't delete your post. I won't ban you because you're not worth my time. Here's some tough pills for you to swallow. The amount of times I've seen YOU personally instigate is far too much, I've seen you do it, you insult and then they insult, and when they insult my country and religion, it hurts and I blame YOU, not them for being ignorant and responding, but for you for stirring sh*t in the first place.

Also, this is an international forum where Pakistan related discussions are the central theme, there is naturally a Pakistani bias throughout, but we by our very job description mean we don't discriminate when dealing with members, no special treatment. Forum rules are that simple. If it wasn't for Indian presence, would I be seeing your sorry behind on this forum?

Answer honestly, otherwise don't bother wasting your time and mine.

nah... take action, if we are still maintaining some standards in discourse...

 

[AbhimanyuShrivastav]

Vital evidence is tier 1 intel shared with appropriate sections. You are an inappropriate being. Hence you wouldn't be enlightened about vital evidences.

Typical "I can tell you but then I have to kill you" nonsense. Normally seen as a last resort when there is no credible response / evidence that can be provided

 

[tarrar]

Most probably from fake Madreesas setup in Pakistan, run by foreign enemies of Pakistan.

 

[syedali73]

@Areesh

Please do not question patriotism of mods or any other member for that matter.

However, your concerns are legit and cant be brushed aside just like that. There is simply no doubt that lately, the forum has turned into a country side pub, or something like دکان کا تھڑہ, where Indians congregate and mock Islam in general and Pakistan in particular. There is no social ill that is not associated with Islam and no chance is wasted to sling mud on Islam and Pakistan. These issues have been raised previously, myself too, in suggestion section but to no avail. Is this curable, I think not and you know why. There are only a couple of think tanks (don't expect mods to join for their job description prevents them from taking sides) or senior Pakistani members who try to counter the rabid Indians otherwise most (over 90%) are either inactive or simply uninterested in these kind of rebuttals etc. Things are quite different on the otherside where Indian TTs are as much active in slinging mud on Islam and Pakistan. Given the number of active terrorist Hindutva apologists and those who counter them, it is a sorry state of affairs but those of us who's conscious is still alive, should keep fighting back no matter what.

This is beyond me why keeping those TTs and Mods who are inactive or come out of their long slumbers occasionally to spit out one post here and another there. Should there not be a pool of reserved mods who could take care of the forum when others are away?

Keep up your fight against our mortal enemy, who has found a whole new life in the form of terrorist Hindutva ideology.

 

[Bratva]

Typical "I can tell you but then I have to kill you" nonsense. Normally seen as a last resort when there is no credible response / evidence that can be provided

Does Indian intelligence actively laid out evidences in public or handed over dossiers to Pakistan in 90's during kashmir proxy war ? NO, Yet I acutely remember the amount of blame India used to laid out on us.

Oh just for the record. If you want keep peddling and parroting the Credible respon/evidence rhetoric, don't bother to quote my post further. I don't have patience with those who are devoid of common sense, Facts, principal of proxy wars. History of proxy wars. Pakistan has repeatedly accuse india of FINANCING & PROVIDING TRAINING & MATERIALISTIC SUPPORT to terrorist groups. Just like USSR and India accused Pakistan in 80's and 90's and weren't able to prove but truth eventually came out.

 

[suresh1773]

@Areesh

Please do not question patriotism of mods or any other member for that matter.

However, your concerns are legit and cant be brushed aside just like that. There is simply no doubt that lately, the forum has turned into a country side pub, or something like دکان کا تھڑہ, where Indians congregate and mock Islam in general and Pakistan in particular. There is no social ill that is not associated with Islam and no chance is wasted to sling mud on Islam and Pakistan. These issues have been raised previously, myself too, in suggestion section but to no avail. Is this curable, I think not and you know why. There are only a couple of think tanks (don't expect mods to join for their job description prevents them from taking sides) or senior Pakistani members who try to counter the rabid Indians otherwise most (over 90%) are either inactive or simply uninterested in these kind of rebuttals etc. Things are quite different on the otherside where Indian TTs are as much active in slinging mud on Islam and Pakistan. Given the number of active terrorist Hindutva apologists and those who counter them, it is a sorry state of affairs but those of us who's conscious is still alive, should keep fighting back no matter what.

Keep up your fight against our mortal enemy, who has found a new life in the form of terrorist Hindutva ideology.

With due respect to you,if u r talking of Areesh,I am sorry,he will always comes with non sense & base less. One should not cross the line.U just check his history if am wrong.
In the same way There r Pakistanis who mock Hindus & Indians. It is not just one sided. I want this debate,discussion to be meaning full & not just some mud slinging contest. There has been serious topics,interesting debates,ever green quotes

Secondly there r social ills associated not only with Islam but also with other religions but that cannot be corrected through education. One should not ignore or give a Nelson's eye. For eg previously Indian women use to do Sati when their Husbands die.Now this is no longer the case. In case of Pakistan,it is Blasphemy law which has been misused to settle scores.
I still remember a Pakistani writing to me that Indians r talking revenge bcoz Muslims ruled them for 900 years. I just wrote to him that before Muslims that Hindus & Buddhist ruled for thousands of years.Ranjit Singh's rule extended right upto Kabul

 

[syedali73]

I still remember a Pakistani writing to me that Indians r talking revenge bcoz Muslims ruled them for 900 years. I just wrote to him that before Muslims that Hindus & Buddhist ruled for thousands of years.Ranjit Singh's rule extended right upto Kabul

And India settled the score with Budhists by sponsoring terror in Sri Lanka, and with Sikhs by raiding Golden temple and God knows how many Sikhs were killed and their women raped. At this point of time, Hindutvadis are primarily targeting Muslims and Christians, and once done with them, they'll not spare remaining Budhists and Sikhs. Its just the matter of time.

 

[SamantK]

And you were saying ? Oh let's see what kind of denial comes next

One statement and we keep hearing about it always.

Nd what statement that is financing trouble... Hahaha you are a think thank, awesome


whereas so many statements of state sponsor of terrorist and training of terrorists is a frequent accusation by US.

 

[Jungibaaz]

nah... take action, if we are still maintaining some standards in discourse...

From experience, it's a convention we use that either we moderate or we engage in discussion. To do both isn't usually the best way. But I hear you, if he starts again, I'll ask someone else to take care of it.

I agree they are battle hardened, highly motivated and have the number strength too (most probably it runs up to 30K+), also they benefit from the terrain. They can fight and die for their cause there is no doubt and I salute our soldiers who have proved to the world their courage and bravery fighting these barbarians.

That underlined part and other matters like that are areas where I don't believe that they are that competent to achieve such things on their own. Their methods and cruelty is imported.

And our politicians do I need to say anything I can pray only.

Well, in fact it's not just the TTP that has become sophisticated and reasonably competent in their communications and command, the same story is being told about the Afghan Taliban. They seem to know from experience to keep their communication lines effective and safe.

 

[AbhimanyuShrivastav]

Does Indian intelligence actively laid out evidences in public or handed over dossiers to Pakistan in 90's during kashmir proxy war ? NO, Yet I acutely remember the amount of blame India used to laid out on us.

Oh just for the record. If you want keep peddling and parroting the Credible respon/evidence rhetoric, don't bother to quote my post further. I don't have patience with those who are devoid of common sense, Facts, principal of proxy wars. History of proxy wars. Pakistan has repeatedly accuse india of FINANCING & PROVIDING TRAINING & MATERIALISTIC SUPPORT to terrorist groups. Just like USSR and India accused Pakistan in 80's and 90's and weren't able to prove but truth eventually came out.

thats a load of crap. both in case of india and ussr there was enough circumstantial evidence to go along with the accusations. people like lakhvi and hafiz saeed are visibly present in pakistan, doing what they do. your pm admitted that kasab was a pakistani, musharraf is on record saying that he as tha pak coas used terroristas/militants against india.

on the other hand, name one act of terrorism in pakistan , directly traced to india or in which indians were caught

and dont misrepresent your lack of credibility and zero substance logic as lack of patience

 

[suresh1773]

And India settled the score with Budhists by sponsoring terror in Sri Lanka

We Indians settle the score with Buddhist by sponsoring terror in Sri Lanka. Totally wrong Sir.
Let the Sri Lankans say on this. First there was a official ban on LTTE in India,our own Prime Minister Mr.Rajiv Gandhi was killed by a Tamil suicide bomber. We sponsored terror in Sri Lanka which is not real but what about yr support to Kashmiri Militants which u call freedom struggle

and with Sikhs by raiding Golden temple and God knows how many Sikhs were killed.

Accha,the attacks on Sikhs happened in 1984,some 3 decades ago.
Compared to this there r weekly attacks on Shias in yr country which is fine. Yesterday a Shia mosque i Hayatabad(Peshawar) was attacked despite the Army security.This shows the militants r blood thirsty, Before that u have attacks on Shikarpur(Sindh),Rawalpindi,the list is almost endless. In Rawalpindi Sunnis & Shias pelted stones,rocks on each other mosques.What about the attack on APS school in Peshawar,even children were not spared.Why r the extremist targetting Shias & their places of worship every now & then

, At this point of time, Hindutvadis are primarily targeting Muslims and Christians, and once done with them, they'll not spare remaining Budhists and Sikhs. Its just the matter of time.

I don't support voilence against anybody.
To be frank More people are being killed in Pakistan then India due to Ethnic,Sectarian & Politcal voilence. I challenge u on that
Punjab Govenor Salman Tasser paid his life for trying to help a Christian lady charged with Blasphemy. A christian minister was shot dead because he opposed the Blasphmey law

 

[I.R.A]

Well, in fact it's not just the TTP that has become sophisticated and reasonably competent in their communications and command, the same story is being told about the Afghan Taliban. They seem to know from experience to keep their communication lines effective and safe.

We started fair with WOT (I believe) but soon realised that we are wrong, and resurrected whatever opposition was necessary for protection of our interests. Otherwise the onslaught in Pakistan would have been a lot more sever than what we have been witnessing over the last decade, and our enemies may have succeeded into turning us into another Iraq. We had no other choice and with Ghani now and China into action I believe our strategy has paid off finally.

 

[asq]

I have been banned multiple times for saying the same thing. These terrorists mostly are our own Tribal Pushtoons and the flaw is in their upbringing and mindset which needs to be changed.

You cannot generalize, their are some and I say it again some traitors who are willing to sell their soul to devil/enemy.

 

[Bratva]

One statement and we keep hearing about it always.

Nd what statement that is financing trouble... Hahaha you are a think thank, awesome


whereas so many statements of state sponsor of terrorist and training of terrorists is a frequent accusation by US.

What kind of BS logic is that? I mean you have surpassed that Sikh logics of deniability and living in delusions.First it was US doesn't said India is involved but when they said, indians bring some twisted logic to deny even what Chuck hagel said . Grow up and reply with maturity. If you have any sense, you would have known Pakistan also accuse india of financing and providing materialistic support to terrorists. Pretty consistent with what Chuck hagel said.

There is a reason I'm think than and you are not. Update yourself on how proxy wars conducted, their history, Proxy wars in AF-PAK region of 80's and 2000's. Until then, don't bother to quote me with your autistic posts.

thats a load of crap. both in case of india and ussr there was enough circumstantial evidence to go along with the accusations. people like lakhvi and hafiz saeed are visibly present in pakistan, doing what they do. your pm admitted that kasab was a pakistani, musharraf is on record saying that he as tha pak coas used terroristas/militants against india.

on the other hand, name one act of terrorism in pakistan , directly traced to india or in which indians were caught

and dont misrepresent your lack of credibility and zero substance logic as lack of patience

I'm done talking with a person who doesn't even know the context of discussion is India using Afghanistan soil to finance troubles in Pakistan and he has to bring the most absurd logic of directly tracing to India. An indian whose country frequently blames Pakistan using Thailand to train sikh groups, Nepal to push Pakistani agents, bangladesh to push fake currency. Sri Lanka to push Pakistani agents once again and Indians readily believe on all that BS but once it comes to Afghanistan. They go in full deniability.

In any case, before going full retard in your next post, Google IA MI TSD, read some articles in The Hindu, Times of India about Indian Military intelligence setup in Afghanistan since 2003 and your official quoting it was created to monitor third parties of their interest. Then read about MI TSD deep cover unit which ran 8 deep cover ops besides many others In Pakistan Most of them through afghanistan. If you still chose to remain in deniability after that. then ponder on why an active Indian Military Intelligence Brigadier was posted as defence attache in Kabul who was killed in 2008 embassy attack.

 

[acid rain]

Who else would it be?santa clause? ...Pakistan is a jihadi churning mega factory....well could have been Uzbeks too...though they come to Pakistan to get trained.