Peshawar school attackers mostly Pakistan nationals: DG ISPR!

[Areesh]

And you are ignoring why ISI created Taliban and actually helped funding it in the first place against Afghanistan?

I never ignored anything. Even what you say is debatable since ISI didnj't found TTP. But then it is you who conveniently ignored your fathers role in spread of terror and attacked Pakistan and its institutions like a true b@stard.

 

[Norwegian]

I never ignored anything. Even what you say is debatable since ISI didnj't found TTP. But then it is you who conveniently ignored your fathers role in spread of terror and attacked Pakistan and its institutions like a true b@stard.

Nonsense. I have never supported India funding Mukhti Bahani or BLA rebels or other separatist movements inside Pakistan. I am only saying if ISI can actively fund separatists inside India, Afghanistan and other places, why whine when others force us to taste our own medicine?

 

[Areesh]

Nonsense. I have never supported India funding Mukhti Bahani or BLA rebels or other separatist movements inside Pakistan. I am only saying if ISI can actively fund separatists inside India, Afghanistan and other places, why whine when others force us to taste our own medicine?

Bold part shows that you support India supporting Mukti Bahni and BLA etc and also shows you are a b@stard since ISI can also use the same logic that why it can't give India a taste of its love for terror by supporting militants in Kashmir. Then why should bharatis whine and why you a b@stard join them in that whining.

 

[Armstrong]

Dude, the same view is expressed on this forum by so many Pakistani members including you (of course you will deny it) and I have met many Pakistanis who share the same views.

Deny 'it' ? What is this 'it' ?

That Pakistanis put religion before country ? Of course they do because for the vast majority of us thats an absurd question seeing that Pakistan was created under the banner of a common religion not ethnicity, historical narrative or language. So for us - To speak of one is to speak of the other. But how is that different from a multi-ethnic state dealing with an ethnic insurgency; can a person not have multiple identities and let those identities coexist with each other ? Or are we hear suggesting that because Pakistanis value religion they'd be willing to work against the State simply because they value religion or analogously a Liverpudlian because he values his Merseyside roots more than his English roots he'd be liable to working against the State ? Fanaticism does that....religion, ethnicity, geography etc. are mere crockery that are latched onto along the way.

Besides if this alleged dichotomy was the reason why some Pakistanis engaged in barbarity why is it that it took nearly 70 years, a failed policy in Afghanistan, the Saudi-Iranian competing ideologies post-79 and an abandonment of post-Soviet Afghanistan that led to this happening ?

I was there last month. He is describing the truth. Most Pakistanis are not nationalistic anymore. Yeah sure there were protests from the civil society outside Lal Masjid against clerics who were supporting TTP, but how long did it go before they all vanished in thin air?

You were there for a month and you had Pakistanis fill out a questionnaire on whether they valued Nationality over Religion ?

It vanished just as all protest vanish; how long did it take for protests in India over Rape, in America over Wall-Street mess-ups, in France over Charlie Hebdo vanished ?

 

[Norwegian]

Bold part shows that you support India supporting Mukti Bahni and BLA etc and also shows you are a b@stard since ISI can also use the same logic that why it can't give India a taste of its love for terror by supporting militants in Kashmir. Then why should bharatis whine and why you a b@stard join them in that whining.

No, I don't support it, I just don't understand why you whine so much about it? If ISI is involved in funding terror and separatism inside India, why its so difficult to acknowledge that India can also do the same in Pakistan? If you want India to stop terrorism inside Pak, you must ask our ISI to stop doing the same in India. One-sided blame game won't solve anything!

 

[timetravel]

Pakistanis want to kill 1000 militants for every child killed in terror attack.

But no Pakistani wants to touch the infrastructure in Pakistan which creates these militants. lol

Kill the militants, but don't touch the education, universities, madrassas, mullahs (all Saudi funded so untouchable actually) which create these militants and extremism in society.

Good going. Well done. !!

 

[Metanoia]

I refuse to believe it...the DG ISPR is lying and is on the payroll of Voodoo magicians.

This is a conspiracy to malign the pious...peace loving and God fearing people of this land.

 

[Norwegian]

Yes you support India's export of terror inside Pakistan. Like a terror apologist and a b@stard you support it. And what is difficult to understand for you if India would support TTP then ISI can do the same in return. India exports and supports terror and then whines and b@stard like you join it in the whining. This one sided blame game won't solve anything.

India started supporting TTP as late as after 9/11 2001. There were no signs of TTP before that date. Pakistan shouldn't have joined US war against terror that led to this mess in the first place!

Kill the militants, but don't touch the education, universities, madrassas, mullahs (all Saudi funded so untouchable actually) which create these militants and extremism in society.

We also have something called 'untouchables' like you Indians do. We call them Saudis

 

[Norwegian]

Lol first you accused Pakistanis of supporting terror and then say Pakistanis shouldn't join fight against terror. This itself shows you as a b@stard who has no f*cking idea what he is talking about.

LOL. Pakistani intelligence agencies were supporting Afghan Taliban all along. Name those countries that recognized Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan in the 90's? Pakistan, Saudia and UAE. None else! If Afghan Taliban were good terrorists supported by ISI, why are TTP bad terrorists? Got it!

 

[janon]

swear to Allah , i can never remove that image of the bloody little girl's shoe from my mind .

That image was actually from Israel, after a rocket attack by Hamas. Do you still feel the same compassion now?

(That is not to take away the fact that many similar heart wrenching images and videos were seen from that APS school massacre as well. Even we Indians wept that day. For once I wish all the very best to the Pakistani army, to bring those perpetrators to justice, or at least give them a painful death.)

 

[Azizam]

Deny 'it' ? What is this 'it' ?

That Pakistanis put religion before country ? Of course they do because for the vast majority of us thats an absurd question seeing that Pakistan was created under the banner of a common religion not ethnicity, historical narrative or language. So for us - To speak of one is to speak of the other. But how is that different from a multi-ethnic state dealing with an ethnic insurgency; can a person not have multiple identities and let those identities coexist with each other ? Or are we hear suggesting that because Pakistanis value religion they'd be willing to work against the State simply because they value religion or analogously a Liverpudlian because he values his Merseyside roots more than his English roots he'd be liable to working against the State ? Fanaticism does that....religion, ethnicity, geography etc. are mere crockery that are latched onto along the way.

Besides if this alleged dichotomy was the reason why some Pakistanis engaged in barbarity why is it that it took nearly 70 years, a failed policy in Afghanistan, the Saudi-Iranian competing ideologies post-79 and an abandonment of post-Soviet Afghanistan that led to this happening ?

It's not co-existing we are talking about. It's putting one's religion which will open itself for exploitations from outside, in some cases, over the state to an extent that one is willing to work against his/her own state as demonstrated by the "extremists". For the well being of a state, its citizens should put the country before religion or ethnicity (yes it the same applies to ethnicity). Once ethnicity comes to the top of priorities, then it only results in a conflict as seen in Sri Lanka. On the other hand putting religion/ethnicity over the state means that opening oneself to discriminate against his/her own countrymen who are not belonged to his/her religion or ethnicity.

In my opinion, as long as you don't realise this, the conflict will continue.

 

[Norwegian]

Even we Indians wept that day.

Indians still have some heart left. After 26/11 attacks in Mumbai, most Pakistanis didn't react at all!

 

[JanjaWeed]

This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone at all. Current situation in Pakistan is capable enough to produce these kinda merciless killers. However I just wonder what sort brainwashing it takes to prepare someone to carry this kinda heinous act?

 

[haman10]

That image was actually from Israel, after a rocket attack by Hamas. Do you still feel the same compassion now?

(That is not to take away the fact that many similar heart wrenching images and videos were seen from that APS school massacre as well. Even we Indians wept that day. For once I wish all the very best to the Pakistani army, to bring those perpetrators to justice, or at least give them a painful death.)

of course i am deeply saddened by the fact that an innocent kid was killed in the attack .

they launched an un-guided rocket with no intentions to kill an innocent kid , but killing kids intentionally - like TTP and Israeli regime - is utter animalistic

 

[SOHEIL]

@SOHEIL @haman10
Have you ever encountered Iranians mercilessly killing their own children in cold blood?

Yes... MKO apes did...