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I still wonder what was going through their minds when they carried out the unspeakably evil act. I'm very puzzled as to where the moral voice of the Muslim World stands on the problem of extremism.

It should be heartening that there was widespread condemnation from Muslim majority nations (including mine) given our divisive and messy politics. However, our religious leaders have been eerily quiet. As I went to Friday prayers today, I expected that the imam raises the tragedy, and consequences around it. Nothing....not even a prayer for the departed pure souls. I find this silence from the religious community disturbing. I do not know about other countries though. However in mine, not a single Islamic scholar said anything!

I am not an expert on Islamic matters, but what I do know is that Islam does have a great tradition of religious scholarly. The Ulema have guided its followers with the correct interpretations and defend from any misinterpretation.

Given the current state of affairs, I believe it is very critical for religious scholars from all corners of the world to take a far more aggressive approach against those who are in fact using the religion for their own political ends which are often violent.

It is understandable that there is a lot of anger against the West (particularly in the Middle East) over its hypocrisy in several matters such as the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the Afghanistan War, the Iraq War, and perhaps others. The root of the anger is however the first - The unconditional support for Israel. Israel's assault on Gaza is bloody leading to many civilian casualties, and many Israelis are openly racist against Arabs.

In light of the Western duplicity on the range of subjects, it does not warrant the distortion of the values prescribed by Islam. I sense that there is a degree of hesitance is condemning terrorist acts, and somehow there is a misleading sense promoting the 'Muslim cause'. They are doing the exact opposite.

I still remember that there was a degree of jubilation among Muslims that America had finally been taught a lesson on 9/11, but what they were forgetting that many innocent lives have been lost in that catastrophe. Was it not our prophet who said "Killing one innocent person is like killing a part of Humanity."? I would say that same thing about suicide bomb attacks against Israeli civilians. Such ugly violence on desperate whims brings more violence to one's doorstep.

We must condemn those who commit unspeakable acts of violence as much as those trying to destroy us. Just because those acts were professed by Muslim does not mean that they are not to be condemned. It is also a matter of one's credibility.

Destroying the Taliban (both Afghan and Pakistani) and a bunch of low-lives like ISIS is one thing. Though, universally condemning violence against innocents in the name of Islam with one voice is another. This condemnation must not to be based off one individual nation's convenience. And it is high time that this starts right now on part of Muslims. Islamic scholars and parties need to take a stronger approach.

If we continue to deny the reality we live in, there will be long-term consequences which we have to live with.
 
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I am intelligent enough to point out which ideology is responsible for the degradation of Islam! At least I made a separate thread to discuss the root cause of such destabilization and confusion among the muslim youth. But seems like none of you is actually interested to be stable and in peace.
Thanks any ways!
1) 1 who needs to point out he is intelligent is far from it hence the need to point it out!
2) asking for credit is another form of complexity
3) Throwing accusation for not getting attention after a blow at our country is despicable!

I still wonder what was going through their minds when they carried out the unspeakably evil act. I'm very puzzled as to where the moral voice of the Muslim World stands on the problem of extremism.

It should be heartening that there was widespread condemnation from Muslim majority nations (including mine) given our divisive and messy politics. However, our religious leaders have been eerily quiet. As I went to Friday prayers today, I expected that the imam raises the tragedy, and consequences around it. Nothing....not even a prayer for the departed pure souls. I find this silence from the religious community disturbing. I do not know about other countries though. However in mine, not a single Islamic scholar said anything!

I am not an expert on Islamic matters, but what I do know is that Islam does have a great tradition of religious scholarly. The Ulema have guided its followers with the correct interpretations and defend from any misinterpretation.

Given the current state of affairs, I believe it is very critical for religious scholars from all corners of the world to take a far more aggressive approach against those who are in fact using the religion for their own political ends which are often violent.

It is understandable that there is a lot of anger against the West (particularly in the Middle East) over its hypocrisy in several matters such as the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the Afghanistan War, the Iraq War, and perhaps others. The root of the anger is however the first - The unconditional support for Israel. Israel's assault on Gaza is bloody leading to many civilian casualties, and many Israelis are openly racist against Arabs.

In light of the Western duplicity on the range of subjects, it does not warrant the distortion of the values prescribed by Islam. I sense that there is a degree of hesitance is condemning terrorist acts, and somehow there is a misleading sense promoting the 'Muslim cause'. They are doing the exact opposite.

I still remember that there was a degree of jubilation among Muslims that America had finally been taught a lesson on 9/11, but what they were forgetting that many innocent lives have been lost in that catastrophe. Was it not our prophet who said "Killing one innocent person is like killing a part of Humanity."? I would say that same thing about suicide bomb attacks against Israeli civilians. Such ugly violence on desperate whims brings more violence to one's doorstep.

We must condemn those who commit unspeakable acts of violence as much as those trying to destroy us. Just because those acts were professed by Muslim does not mean that they are not to be condemned. It is also a matter of one's credibility.

Destroying the Taliban (both Afghan and Pakistani) and a bunch of low-lives like ISIS is one thing. Though, universally condemning violence against innocents in the name of Islam with one voice is another. This condemnation must not to be based off one individual nation's convenience. And it is high time that this starts right now on part of Muslims. Islamic scholars and parties need to take a stronger approach.

If we continue to deny the reality we live in, there will be long-term consequences which we have to live with.
Today's people are self proclaimed scholars...ask anyone to tell you 2 good words and they will only spit hatred!

Scholars are those who are learned in the subject matter not those who have bought a large crowd of worshipers nor those who beg attention


Most of the olden day scholars used to live alone not coz they liked it but coz no one liked hearing the truth from their mouths and they were learned to such a degree that they seemed peculiar to the everyday man!

@Loki today's scholars look like they have sold their souls to the devil...
 
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1) 1 who needs to point out he is intelligent is far from it hence the need to point it out!
2) asking for credit is another form of complexity
3) Throwing accusation for not getting attention after a blow at our country is despicable!

1)It is the cause of terror which requires and demanding attention NOT ME.

2)Arguing with me here, will lead to my ban. I know your tactics very well. So I am rather asking for a ban

3). Don't be biased and and eliminate this ideology of extremism, Mullah, wahabi whatever.. not good for subcontinent.
 
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1)It is the cause of terror which requires and demanding attention NOT ME.
Attention is being given to it in other threads but you cant seem to get enough!
2)Arguing with me here, will lead to my ban. I know your tactics very well. So I am rather asking for a ban
I aint the one arguing..I have been asking you to get off my tail since post 1 with replies like

I also said this:
Stop twisting words...You asked I told...Not sure how chowmin is against ISLAM...

Yes and no...

Both influence the other.....

1) So where does touching the feet (culture as I have seen Christian and Muslim Indians doing it) come from if not Hinduism (the religion) ?

2) Why cant you roam in burka in Alaska or Himalayas? Doesnt a ski mask looks burqa-ish?

3) Even Arab culture has been influenced by Islam..They have had to throw alot of things out but many a times they havent that is their problem not for us to discuss...You discuss YOURS!
Shariah IS NOT ONLY about dress code!
:tsk:

ahlus sunnah wal jamah: Fatwa of Deviancy on Ibn Taymiah

^^ is 1 view of 1 school about him!
3). Don't be biased and and eliminate this ideology of extremism, Mullah, wahabi whatever.. not good for subcontinent.[/QUOTE]

3). Don't be biased and and eliminate this ideology of extremism, Mullah, wahabi whatever.. not good for subcontinent.
You are the only one who seems to be bringing it up with people who are not interested in it ...Stop being a bitch! PLEASE!

It is disgusting for your own ego you have derailed a thread
It is further disgusting you cant seem to understand when to shut up and when one isnt interested in engaging
It is also disgusting that your should motive is to find someone to blame and get a upper hand!

Fine are you done? Now get lost!! Please leave this thread ALONE!
 
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@Loki today's scholars look like they have sold their souls to the devil...
I will end with this
pothhi parhi parhi jag mua, pandit bhya na koi
dhai akshar prem ke parhe, so pandit hoye.

if you understand well and good, if not , also its fine.
ciao
 
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I know shouldnt be but it was funny :ashamed:
 
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What these people did is unnatural. Mammals even the most brutal are unable to kill children or babies. These TTP and Lal Masjid are not even animals, I really don't know what they are.

They are khawarij. And khawarij have, throughout history, preferred to kill children of their enemies.
 
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