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Pervez Musharraf was right, Kashmiris will prefer to be independent Congress leader Saifuddin Soz

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Bro I get what you mean , that's for current security situation, in the case of a cease fire and truce , kashmiri would = kashmiri, kashmiri can travel to India and pak freely, Indian cannot travel to pak freely pak cannot travel to India freely, that was what was announced,
Obviously when both sides in good faith declare cease fire and importantly truce, distrust would end and leave will begin and rise of a subcontinental economic bloc of 2 nuclear nations with large industries,
Yet if only the Indians agreed to this, why does India even cling on to Kashmir? It seems insignificant considering the size of India

I don't know about the bits of Kashmir that you occupy, but J&K is an Indian state. We do not have walls or mine fields or barbed razor wire or electric fences on state borders here.

How are we to ensure that Kashmiris (yours) stay in Kashmir. The valley specifically. Ladakh and Jammu surely don't want them either. So are we going to wall off the valley? When the attempt from the start is to mainstream them?

Cheers, Doc
 
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Kashmir belongs to her inhabitants not you, BJP or any other party. Just because you have half a million armed occupiers doesn't make it YOUR land.

Now we could say the same that just because a small bunch of people chose to adopt a different ideology does not mean that the land goes away with them.

When you want to shift places, you don't lift your land and take it with you.

No one is stopping these separatist groups from moving to Pakistan. In fact, we would be very happy if they want to join their brethren across the border.

But the land stays here.

There was no Bharat for past 5000 years..

You didn't exist 1,500 years ago.

What does that make everything from Morocco to Afghanistan and Malaysia to Papua then?
 
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By now Indian troops level in Kashmir would have crossed 1.5 million given turbulence in Kashmir since India needed 7 lakh troops to hold Kashmir during peace time.:lol:
If you need half a million number for 200 odd militants i agree with you that you might need more men and material now.

Now we could say the same that just because a small bunch of people chose to adopt a different ideology does not mean that the land goes away with them.
Comprehension problems or occupier's delusion. Land belongs to the people if they want to stay they should if they don't land still belong to them !
 
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Comprehension problems or occupier's delusion. Land belongs to the people if they want to stay they should if they don't land still belong to them !

Then why do you, by the same logic expect Jews to return their homeland to someone who only came in later?

Kingdom of Judea and Israel were there over 3,000 years ago long before Christianity or Islam. They ran away due to the fall of their place due to wars - came back in 40s and took back their own historic land.

Why do you cry so much about an imaginary palestinian state?
 
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it wil be great choice to make them a free country . south Asian concept of dharti maan and unchangeable countries is pure BS bakwaas


They'll not survive. If independent, it will be a landlocked country with no real industry, mining etc. They'll be heavily dependent on India/Pak ...hence will not be true sovereign...their politics will be a battleground between India/Pak...

To me there is no solution as of now for Kashmir...we'll have to wait till India becomes too strong to be fiddled with and Pak compromises, or Pak becomes too strong to snatch it from India....Local population on it's own cannot do much
 
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Kashmir belong to the Kashmiris and only they should decide their fate.
 
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They'll not survive. If independent, it will be a landlocked country with no real industry, mining etc. They'll be heavily dependent on India/Pak ...hence will not be true sovereign...their politics will be a battleground between India/Pak...

To me there is no solution as of now for Kashmir...we'll have to wait till India becomes too strong to be fiddled with and Pak compromises, or Pak becomes too strong to snatch it from India....Local population on it's own cannot do much
buddy you dont kashmir then first they will be a state border with india pakistan china afghanistan and very close to tajikistan . no2 they have so much of potential of mining of precious stones .third they have tourism and water . it will be soon rich country at least now Pakistani kashmir is more rich well and educated place .
 
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Assuming too much about me or this is your muslim hating sanghi coming out?

The Sangh really pisses you off doesn't it? :D

Imagine, they won't even have the faintest idea how you are bothered by them.

I like it.

As for muslim hating, the word Kaffir was invented by you and implemented wherever you went including parts of our country like J&K where being Kafir is a danger to life.
 
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