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Pentagon wants faster training of PA

There is only one way to defeat Talaban is to adopt their life style and tactics .

My friend you dont know how right you are!! I think there are 2 aspects of this conundrum.You need to have a man who commands respect and who is well versed in matters of Quran and Sunnah to counter and refute their basic ideology and bring them around to his way of thinking.Seocndly we need education and more importantly a means for livelihood for all the people ar as many of them that are willing to work. Once work is provided we need to ally the continuation of work with education. It is the combination of factors along with just but strong governance which will resolve the problem rather than just outright pigeon hunting:sniper::D:lol:
At least my 2 paisas worth
Araz
 
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My friend you dont know how right you are!! I think there are 2 aspects of this conundrum.You need to have a man who commands respect and who is well versed in matters of Quran and Sunnah to counter and refute their basic ideology and bring them around to his way of thinking.Seocndly we need education and more importantly a means for livelihood for all the people ar as many of them that are willing to work. Once work is provided we need to ally the continuation of work with education. It is the combination of factors along with just but strong governance which will resolve the problem rather than just outright pigeon hunting:sniper::D:lol:
At least my 2 paisas worth
Araz

If you really want to defeat your enemy first thing is to understand their idealogy.
War in Afghanistan and Pakistan is basically idealogy WAR.Uptill now Talabans are successful in defending their idealogy.

Root of terrorism acutally starting from Palestine.
 
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well it appears army is doing fine in swat.
troops do need trainin but not necessarily from americans. like Gen. Kiyani said we have developed our own CI trainin infrastructure

Well I have heard many excuses of inaction of PA till very recently, from Pakistani posters. Lack of training in CI warfare was one of them. I don't know if Kiyani did any magic & improved the quality of training in a matter of few weeks. But if training in CI warfare was never an issue, why use it as an excuse for inaction?
 
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Well I have heard many excuses of inaction of PA till very recently, from Pakistani posters. Lack of training in CI warfare was one of them. I don't know if Kiyani did any magic & improved the quality of training in a matter of few weeks. But if training in CI warfare was never an issue, why use it as an excuse for inaction?

i suppose Gen. Kiyani is better informed than many of us here. we could be wrong due to limited info at our disposal but Gen. Kiyani definately knows wat he is talkin about.
 
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The U.S. Special Forces Training Mission In Pakistan Expands

By Spencer Ackerman 5/15/09 5:51 PM

About two weeks ago I was talking to an Obama administration official about the prospects for Pakistan accepting a larger contingent of U.S. counterinsurgency trainers. The administration was pressing somewhat gingerly, the official indicated, not wanting to push the Pakistani military too far — it would be counterproductive to imply too strongly that the Pakistanis need the United States’ help — but letting it be known that additional trainers, beyond the 70 Special Forces troops in-theater, are available if they’re needed. It didn’t look so promising, though, and so senior officials publicly emphasized the material aid — night-vision goggles, helicopters — that they were going to offer the Pakistanis rather than any additional U.S. military trainers to instruct them in best practices.

Adm. Michael Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff who’s practically commuting to Islamabad, mentioned during Senate testimony yesterday that he recently observed “some fairly effective counterinsurgency training” that his Pakistani counterpart, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, has put into place. That seemed to suggest Pakistan was going to take a distinctly Pakistani take on COIN.

Maybe not. Yochi Dreazen and Siobhan Gorman of the Wall Street Journal break the story that a small additional contingent of Special Forces are going to Pakistan:

The Special Forces personnel are being deployed to new training camps in Quetta and Baluchistan, Taliban strongholds that lie close to the porous Afghan-Pakistani border, the officials said. The moves bring U.S. personnel deeper into Pakistan’s lawless tribal regions than before.

Senior U.S. officials familiar with the plan said the 25 to 50 Special Forces personnel will focus on training Pakistan’s Frontier Corps, a paramilitary force responsible for battling the Taliban and al Qaeda fighters who cross freely between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Watch to see if the distinction between “training” and “fighting” remains a hard and fast one. Administration officials have consistently maintained that it’s better to have an imperfect but counterinsurgency-capable Pakistani military than an expanded U.S. mission. But, as they say, things happen in the street.

The Washington Independent
 
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Since all this hoopla of our boys using armour and arty in MOUT i started conducting some research on MOUT from a military prespective and what foreign texts say regarding the deployment of arty and armour in LIC/CI within MOUT(Ops in Urban Terrain).

US. FM 3-06.11 Chapter 7.12 refers to the use and provides a detailed SWOT analysis on Arty use within MOUT: FM 3-06.11 Chapter 7

Whilst 7.11 refers to Armour assetts and tank cannons in MOUT:

FM 3-06.11 Chapter 7

Very interesting readining indeed. Infact our boys are playing it by the book. Was there ever any doubt? :)

Pakistani Zindabad
 
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Faster training of PA how shove nitrous oxide in everyones As-.
 
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