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Pentagon chief would back lifting restrictions on U.S. arms to Vietnam

And your post regarding THAAD is relevant to claim a derailed NK missile into Vietnam? you just like to bullsh1t as usual, it's more likely that China will derailed it missiles to Vietnam than anyone else.:P

You didnt know the path of NK missile, did you? Vietnam fishermen collected some wreckages of it.
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1.Is there any weapon can help vietnam survive from a China -vietnam war?:-)

2. Do you think US will save you if they did nothing at 1974 to help their ally (south vietnam).:usflag:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Paracel_Islands

"Result

Following the battle, China gained control over all of the Paracel Islands. South Vietnam protested to the United Nations, but China, having veto power on the UN Security Council, blocked any efforts to bring it up. The remote islands had little value militarily, but diplomatically the projection of power was beneficial to China."

It seems uncle sam has taken the gloves off in order to hurt China. Uncle sam's intentions are clear. The question is what China is going to do about it? China should objectively analyze why uncle sam and india are in Afghanistan. If China goes by the usual US narrative then I must say that the China has a lot to learn.
 
They're interested to buy US carrier battle group, P8 and nuclear subs with very long termed credit with zero interest, I don't bullsh1t, go ask @NiceGuy or @Viva_Viet :lol:

Sometimes, we need the embargoes lifted just for the sale of "an electric pump" or "a microchip" and so on which has US technology ... inside a European, Israeli jet, frigate ... , APPROVED by US
in order to the whole ship, jet, system ... could be sold to Vietnam.

Of course the contract of 3 billion dollars of Kilo-class submarines doesn't need this kind of approval.
but the deal of 3x Airbus C-295 valued 100 million need the approval of "The Post" because they intergrated some small things using US technology or equipments.
 
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They're interested to buy US carrier battle group, P8 and nuclear subs with very long termed credit with zero interest, I don't bullsh1t, go ask @NiceGuy or @Viva_Viet :lol:

Well if that's the case, then those two are obviously dreaming.

As for NiceGuy.. If I remember correctly, he thinks Mr. Putin will supply Vietnam with many advanced military toys.
 
Quietly, Vietnam hosts arms gathering attended by U.S. companies


(Repeats Wednesday's story with no changes to text)

By My Pham and Idrees Ali

HANOI/WASHINGTON May 11 Vietnam hosts a defence symposium this week attended by top American arms manufacturers, ahead of a visit by U.S. President Barack Obama and as Washington weighs whether to lift an arms embargo on its former enemy.

Secrecy has surrounded the event staged by the communist country and attended by firms including Boeing and Lockheed Martin. It coincides with the biggest arms buildup in the country since the Vietnam War.

There has been no mention in state-controlled media and defence reporters are not covering the forum. Efforts by Reuters to gain permission to attend have been unsuccessful and Vietnam's defence ministry could not be reached for comment.

Vietnam has accelerated efforts to build a military deterrent and is the world's eighth largest weapons importer, as neighbour China intensifies its push to fortify South China Sea islands it has either occupied or built from scratch.

According to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute think-tank, which tracks defence trade over five-year periods, Vietnam's total arms imports during 2011-2015 represented a 699 percent jump from 2006-2010.

The Hanoi symposium comes amid debate within the U.S. administration over whether to respond to Vietnam's longstanding request to remove an arms embargo that is one of the last major vestiges of the Vietnam War era.

Washington eased the embargo in late 2014, but has said any decision to lift it completely would hinge on the extent to which Vietnam has demonstrated progress in improving its human rights record. Its top envoy in that field, Tom Malinowski, was in Hanoi earlier this week.

Vietnam has been in talks with Western and U.S. arms manufacturers for several years now to boost its fleets of fighter jets, helicopters and maritime patrol aircraft, although Russia, its traditional supplier, maintains a dominant position.

Industry sources say Hanoi is keen on U.S. weapons yet wary of the threat of a future embargo even if the current one ends. The countries do have a common concern in China, however, whose assertiveness in the South China Sea has alarmed Washington.

Obama is due to start his Vietnam visit on May 22, the first by a U.S. president in a decade, underlining the rapidly warming relationship between the countries at a time of testy ties and growing mistrust between Hanoi and Beijing, which have competing claims to the Paracel and Spratly islands.

MODERNISATION NEEDS

A spokesman for Lockheed Martin confirmed the company was attending the Hanoi event.

Boeing is also attending, although the firm made it clear it was not in contravention of the embargo.

"I would like to point out that any defence-related sales to Vietnam will follow development of U.S. government policy on Vietnam," a spokesman said.

"We believe Boeing has capabilities in mobility and intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance platforms that may meet Vietnam's modernisation needs."

Those needs have included the purchase of six modern Kilo-class submarines from Russia equipped with Klub cruise missiles, Russian-built S-300 surface-to-air missile batteries, and from Israel, Galil assault rifles and AD-STAR 2888 radars.

Its navy is making Tarantul-class corvettes, known as Molniyas, modelled on Russian designs and equipped with 16 missiles with a range of 130 km (80 miles).

Though the communist parties that run China and Vietnam officially have brotherly ties, experts say Beijing's brinkmanship has forced Vietnam to recalibrate its defence strategy.

A report in the defence ministry's People's Army Newspaper Online in March quoted the vice defence minister, Lieutenant General Nguyen Chi Vinh, as saying Vietnam's relationship with the United States lacked defence industry cooperation, and Hanoi wanted Washington "to provide modern, suitable and adaptable technology".

Its outreach so far has been weighted towards Russia, India and Israel in procurements, but analysts say it is unlikely to seek formal military alliances and would stick to its foreign policy of not relying on a single power.

It has, however, mulled joint exercises with another South China Sea claimant at odds with China, the Philippines, and has received recent visits by Singaporean and Japanese warships at its new international port at Cam Ranh Bay, a strategic deepwater base that is home to its submarines.

Tim Huxley, a regional security expert at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in Singapore, said Vietnam's interest in getting the arms embargo lifted was not only about access to U.S. technology, but boosting its bargaining power.

"It reflects concern about what's happening in the South China Sea and its need to restructure and re-arm, with a greater emphasis on greater naval and air capability," he said.

"It wants to widen options available and have more choices in the international market place in terms of range of technology and its negotiating position."

(Additional reporting by Mai Nguyen in HANOI; Writing and additional reporting by Martin Petty in MANILA; Editing by Mike Collett-White)
 
if american RIM-166 sea AA missile system can be install on tarantul class missile corvette of VPA NAVY then it maybe good to buy
 
if american RIM-166 sea AA missile system can be install on tarantul class missile corvette of VPA NAVY then it maybe good to buy

SM-6 my friend. And F35.
I am optimistic they could be with us on 2023-2025
 
China says hopes U.S., Vietnam ties benefit regional peace
Fri May 13, 2016 9:07am EDT

BEIJING (Reuters) - China is happy to see Vietnam normalizing relations with the United States and hopes it benefits regional peace, China said on Friday as the United States considers lifting a three-decade-old arms embargo on Vietnam.

A debate within the U.S. administration on lifting the arms embargo is coming to a head amid preparations for President Barack Obama to visit Vietnam this month. The former enemies are increasingly partners against China's growing territorial assertiveness in the South China Sea.

Vietnam says it would welcome the United States "accelerating" the lifting of a lethal arms embargo, which would reflect trust between the two countries and recognition of its needs to defend itself. The ban was eased in late 2014.

"From the Chinese government's point of view, we are happy to see Vietnam develop normal relations with the relevant country," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang told a daily news briefing, when asked about the possible lifting.

"We also hope this relationship can benefit regional peace, stability and prosperity," he added, without elaborating.

The arms embargo is one of the last major vestiges of the Vietnam War era. The United States has not indicated publicly it would remove the embargo and has long said such a move would depend on Vietnam showing progress on human rights.

Lifting the embargo would mark a major step forward in ties 21 years after normalization began.

U.S. engagement with Vietnam was stepped up rapidly during 2014, in what experts say was a calibrated move by the United States to seize on deteriorating ties between Vietnam and communist neighbor China over rival territorial claims in the South China Sea.

Vietnam has been boosting its military deterrent as China intensifies its fortification of South China Sea islands it controls or has built from scratch.

(Reporting by Ben Blanchard; Editing by Robert Birsel)
 
I applaud your rational comment.

instead of being confrontational like some, you acknowledged Vietnam's sovereign right to buy weapons and want to discuss budget size and what weapons could possibly be a fit for Vietnam.

I'm of course no expert on Vietnam's possible budgetary limits, but I wonder how much advanced arms it could afford to buy from US?

You mentioned F35. Obviously quite expensive, and maybe overkill for what it needs

F-35 for Vietnam definitely makes no sense for many reasons and it would not be approved anyway.

What is realistically possible is MPA aircraft such as P-3 or the Hercules MPA version, maybe second hand F-16s (a bit of a long shot, but possible), second hand Hamilton class coast guard vessels, C-130 cargo planes, spare parts and as @BoQ77 said, approval of other countries equipment that has US made / licensed components.

I love this one
SM-6 and AWACs ...
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SM-6 is definitely great, AEGIS Ashore would be a nice system to have. I bet Taiwan feels the same way.
 
@Carlosa

I find your stance awkward. On the one hand, you are against the US meddling on our continent but in case of East Asia, you support the US meddling their affairs. It's like someone who doesn't take heroin, knowing all the negative effect this drug will cause but tells the Vietnamese to take it as it would give them the feeling of being a hero.
 

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