Pen will win over stones every time: BSF topper from Jammu and Kashmir

[Jaga Badmash]

Pellet guns.

Shot guns they are misusing term pellet gun name instead of of hunting gun.

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

I am sorry, but cold hard calculations cannot become 'blind hatred' just because you find it unpalatable.

You are saying "koi fark nai padta" ? Please go and ask the professionals what difference the cause and background make on every situation and the response from the administration are according to the situation.

For your information, even in Haryana, they used real bullets.

This is also my last response to you because you Sir, have the airs of someone who is more than willing to throw logical reason and action to the bin called 'hatred' because it is not to your taste.

There can be no discussion with a man who is dogmatic and ideological and not pragmatic or a realist.

He may be Rahul Gandhi or Arvind kejriwal fan.

 

[VivasvatManu]

You are beyond point of no return in your blind hatred so no point discussing with you . but lets answer this one after this I am out .

Riots in Haryana were of similar scale and intensity even women were raped . Reasons se koi fark nae padta .
Haryana is mostly into women cleansing .
In Haryana surely no one chants about death they kill people for eating beef and rape women .

One of the rapists

http://www.jantakareporter.com/india/haryana/one-mewat-rapist-told-victim-raped-eating-beef/61814/

Excellent, Here is a malayali Christian Priest Father Edwin Figarez who raped a Nine year old girl THREE times.

....he had sexually enticed the girl when she visited him for confession.

Here is a Christian priest Raju Kokkan who too raped a 9 year old girl,

.....the nine-year-girl was lured by the priest with the promise of free vestments for her holy communion and the vicar raped the girl thrice in April in his office room.

The girl, who hails from a poor family, was forced to go naked before him when the vicar asked her to remove her clothes in the pretext to check whether the Holy Communion dress fits her or not.

The girl told police that she was sexually assaulted thrice by the priest afterwards. The girl said the priest took her naked photos on his mobile phone too.


Here is a Christian Priests who raped a 14 year old girl .....again from Kerala.

So if Haryana guys are into cleansing of women, what are christian priest into ?

Here is a small hint,

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-63-priests-in-kerala-face-criminal-charges-1128496

Stone throwing mobs have been control multiple times in France without Pellets .

The french have cracked down on Islam FAR harder than India has done in kashmir.

 

[Indika]

France Riots Just as bad as Kashmir if not worse . Check this out

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3568282/Violence-breaks-France-gangs-riot-police-clash.html

There is a difference organized mob & disorganized mob. ppl who plan weeks ahead and hell bent on creating chaos buy funneling funds are not called protestors.

 

[Acknowledge]

He may be Rahul Gandhi or Arvind kejriwal fan.

And I have nothing against anyone'e political interests or leanings.

I do have a problem with people disregarding facts to make ideological points.

 

[Cherokee]

There is a difference organized mob & disorganized mob. ppl who plan weeks ahead and hell bent on creating chaos buy funneling funds are not called protestors.

There is never an organized mob . That's why its called a mob . However yes there are miscreants who as you said plan weeks ahead and hell bent on creating chaos . As soon as push comes to shove they vanish leaving agitated protesters and dead bodies , thats how they are playing .

 

[VivasvatManu]

There is never an organized mob . That's why its called a mob . However yes there are miscreants who as you said plan weeks ahead and hell bent on creating chaos . As soon as push comes to shove they vanish leaving agitated protesters and dead bodies , thats how they are playing .

LOL. sure. There is no organised crime either.

IS that why you are suggesting water, lathi and smoke ?

And I have nothing against anyone'e political interests or leanings.

I do have a problem with people disregarding facts to make ideological points.

You will not have that problem anymore since I have posted pictures of christian priests. He is guaranteed to disappear from this thread.

 

[Indrajit]

That is one thing I can not consciously agree with . There are better way to control crowds . Water, lathi charge , smoke etc

Not that kind of a crowd. While I agree that it would be preferable to use what you suggest in a general case, this is not something that will work here. They are trying to storm police & army installations and they have shown intent to harm, firing shotguns might be the only thing that works.

 

[Cherokee]

Not that kind of a crowd. While I agree that it would be preferable to use what you suggest in a general case, this is not something that will work here. They are trying to storm police & army installations and they have shown intent to harm, firing shotguns might be the only thing that works.

There is a reason that it's use was slammed by HC and even govt is reviewing its use (i.e. sooner than later it will not be used ) even army is suggesting to of pepper gunshots, chili grenades and sound cannons . No one is comfortable, not even the people using it .

 

[VivasvatManu]

Not that kind of a crowd. While I agree that it would be preferable to use what you suggest in a general case, this is not something that will work here. They are trying to storm police & army installations and they have shown intent to harm, firing shotguns might be the only thing that works.

Its an organised Mob crafted to attack the government machinery to ensure lack of public trust in Local Government. The less people have faith in Local government, the stronger is their story of 'occupation' and more legitimate their 'azadi' becomes.

The bonus is to provoke firing so that some innocent victim can be produced to paraded for propaganda.

@Cherokee

This is what you said,

Haryana is mostly into women cleansing .
In Haryana surely no one chants about death they kill people for eating beef and rape women .


You failed to answer me when I asked you what are Kerala chrisitans into based on available evidence.

I am disappointed that while you are so vocal about Haryana, you refuse to share your illuminated thoughts about Kerala.

 

[Indika]

There is never an organized mob . That's why its called a mob . However yes there are miscreants who as you said plan weeks ahead and hell bent on creating chaos . As soon as push comes to shove they vanish leaving agitated protesters and dead bodies , thats how they are playing .

you want to keep playing around with words and overlook their atrocious intent? This kind of victim playing is any thing but normal by these type of crowd. Now police are using pellets simply bcos of the fact they cannot be controlled by harmless water cannon.

Simple question when some one playing the victim card and you think ppl who are hell bent on not even not to care to give damn about pellets will give into water canon or tear gas ? Counting starts from 1...10 not 10....1. ppl on the ground know the situation very well, arm chair analysts like us can give all sorts of nonsense. Its like scoring zero but giving instructions to next batsman on how to score century.

 

[Cherokee]

you want to keep playing around with words and overlook their atrocious intent? This kind of victim playing is any thing but normal by these type of crowd. Now police are using pellets simply bcos of the fact they cannot be controlled by harmless water cannon.

Simple question when some one playing the victim card and you think ppl who are hell bent on not even not to care to give damn about pellets will give into water canon or tear gas ? Counting starts from 1...10 not 10....1. ppl on the ground know the situation very well, arm chair analysts like us can give all sorts of nonsense. Its like scoring zero but giving instructions to next batsman on how to score century.

Nopes they do it because alternate options have not been provided otherwise army would not have suggest for these alternatives .Now either Indian Army is stupid or they what they are doing .

Its an organised Mob crafted to attack the government machinery to ensure lack of public trust in Local Government. The less people have faith in Local government, the stronger is their story of 'occupation' and more legitimate their 'azadi' becomes.

The bonus is to provoke firing so that some innocent victim can be produced to paraded for propaganda.

@Cherokee

This is what you said,

Haryana is mostly into women cleansing .
In Haryana surely no one chants about death they kill people for eating beef and rape women .


You failed to answer me when I asked you what are Kerala chrisitans into based on available evidence.

I am disappointed that while you are so vocal about Haryana, you refuse to share your illuminated thoughts about Kerala.

Churches should reform themselves otherwise forced reforms will take place as it is taking place in Muslim Marriage laws . All India Muslim Personal Law Board has been constantly on backfoot and triple talak will be out of the way soon as well .

 

[Indrajit]

There is a reason that it's use was slammed by HC and even govt is reviewing its use (i.e. sooner than later it will not be used ) even army is suggesting to of pepper gunshots, chili grenades and sound cannons . No one is comfortable, not even the people using it .

Judges are no experts in this matter tending to flow with public noise, the CRPF submitted in court that to do away with this instrument is to create a situation where they have to open fire with regular weapons, something that will cause many more deaths. Chilli genades & others are poor alternatives, they are being suggested simply to reduce the protest noise levels, no one is withdrawing the use of shot guns anytime soon.

Nopes they do it because alternate options have not been provided otherwise army would not have suggest for these alternatives .Now either Indian Army is stupid or they what they are doing .

What are you going on about the army? It is the central paramilitaries which have been using this. In any case alternates are suggested because they have been told to, not because they believe that instrument of choice is wrong.

 

[Acknowledge]

You will not have that problem anymore since I have posted pictures of christian priests. He is guaranteed to disappear from this thread.

I neither know of @Cherokee 's religion, nor do I find it relevant ?

The point was, this painting of Kashmiri violence mobs are ordinary mobs is wrong factually. Govt of India and their forces are also well aware of it. Their response is accordingly.

It is political pressure that forces them to use pellet guns. Most of the Jawans and Officers out front would prefer to use real guns. Its the political bosses that prevent them from it.

 

[Cherokee]

Judges are no experts in this matter tending to flow with public noise, the CRPF submitted in court that to do away with this instrument is to create a situation where they have to open fire with regular weapons, something that will cause many more deaths. Chilli genades & others are poor alternatives, they are being suggested simply to reduce the protest noise levels, no one is withdrawing the use of shot guns anytime soon.

I guess you know more about this than Chief of Northern Army command DS Hooda . He must not be aware hence he is putting forth these recommendation to central government .

:http://www.ibtimes.co.in/indian-arm...i-grenades-instead-pellet-guns-kashmir-690065

What are you going on about the army? It is the central paramilitaries which have been using this. In any case alternates are suggested because they have been told to, not because they believe that instrument of choice is wrong.

Read, then react : http://www.ibtimes.co.in/indian-arm...i-grenades-instead-pellet-guns-kashmir-690065