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[Zarvan]

Brah I am Saudi, pls stop with the western propaganda bs. Covering faces wasn't their culture because it was done by the prostitutes and dancers, not by the common womenfolk even though premartial intercourse was common. Niqab is again not part of islam nor was it started by the Surah. Also people didn't perform pilgrimage stark naked,
Women had their bosoms uncovered showing their breasts because of how dressing there was. So the verse told them to cover their bosoms. That has nothing to do with niqab. Even right now most saudi women do not wear niqab. Lmao grass wth

It wasn't done by any women only in case of desert storm it was done. I also thought same because I was in western history crap but when I went in detail I came to know about it. Dude the two ayats are there first ones are in Surah Noor after that all women started doing Hijab which including covering head and entire body except for face and hands and feet. Than came Surah Ahzab after that women started doing Niqab. Even the most liberal scholars don't deny these ayats are for covering face. They come up with two explanations for that one is that these orders are only for wives and daughters of RASOOL SAW and the other half of that group says it was only for some time not permanent order.

 

[Manama]

It wasn't done by any women only in case of desert storm it was done. I also thought same because I was in western history crap but when I went in detail I came to know about it. Dude the two ayats are there first ones are in Surah Noor after that all women started doing Hijab which including covering head and entire body except for face and hands and feet. Than came Surah Ahzab after that women started doing Niqab. Even the most liberal scholars don't deny these ayats are for covering face. They come up with two explanations for that one is that these orders are only for wives and daughters of RASOOL SAW and the other half of that group says it was only for some time not permanent order.

None of these ayah are for covering faces. Don't make it something it isn't lol.
Desert storm is the worst explanation or excuse anyone can come up with tbh.

 

[El Sidd]

None of these ayah are for covering faces. Don't make it something it isn't lol.
Desert storm is the worst explanation or excuse anyone can come up with tbh.

Do you guys really must engage him? @Zibago @Hell hound
Just let him be.

 

[Hell hound]

Do you guys really must engage him? @Zibago @Hell hound
Just let him be.

hahaha mate most of the time he and i tend to avoid each other but some time you do need some mirach masala in a thread to make it spicy

 

[Zarvan]

None of these ayah are for covering faces. Don't make it something it isn't lol.
Desert storm is the worst explanation or excuse anyone can come up with tbh.

Yes it's and it has been consensus of majority of scholars for past 1400 years. Those who say face covering is not farz even they say it's preferred. This has been the view for past 1400 years.

Do you guys really must engage him? @Zibago @Hell hound
Just let him be.

Well because you fail to come up with answer every time.

 

[El Sidd]

hahaha mate most of the time he and i tend to avoid each other but some time you do need some mirach masala in a thread to make it spicy

i know i know. everybody wants mirch masala in a thread but he just repeats the same stuff and that makes it all a bit boring...
You living in Saudi Arabia miss Biryani and are not accustomed to Kapsa i know haha

Yes it's and it has been consensus of majority of scholars for past 1400 years. Those who say face covering is not farz even they say it's preferred. This has been the view for past 1400 years.


Well because you fail to come up with answer every time.

@Hell hound hunn araam hai? ye mujhe lag liye hain ab....

@Zarvan Buddy its not about the answers. You have every right to interpret the teachings of Islam as you may please but limit it to yourself. the others may interpret things differently. The veil is open to interpretation and it is for a woman to decide and no man has authority over that. Muslims do not have a Vatican style monopoly on Islam and that is a blessing in disguise

 

[Zarvan]

i know i know. everybody wants mirch masala in a thread but he just repeats the same stuff and that makes it all a bit boring...
You living in Saudi Arabia miss Biryani and are not accustomed to Kapsa i know haha



@Hell hound hunn araam hai? ye mujhe lag liye hain ab....

@Zarvan Buddy its not about the answers. You have every right to interpret the teachings of Islam as you may please but limit it to yourself. the others may interpret things differently. The veil is open to interpretation and it is for a woman to decide and no man has authority over that. Muslims do not have a Vatican style monopoly on Islam and that is a blessing in disguise

Sorry Islamic interpretation can't be your or my choice 99 % of the time there is only interpretation it's people here who want to change it not me.

 

[El Sidd]

Sorry Islamic interpretation can't be your or my choice 99 % of the time there is only interpretation it's people here who want to change it not me.

baba ghalti hogayyi...mujhe bakhsh do

 

[Hell hound]

i know i know. everybody wants mirch masala in a thread but he just repeats the same stuff and that makes it all a bit boring...

but it always attracts some closeted mullahs to the thread

You living in Saudi Arabia miss Biryani and are not accustomed to Kapsa i know haha

man kapsa and mandi are great but even America was discovered because of the famed spices of the subcontinent so how can i resist its charms
ps bro after living 17 years in KSA i now spend most my time in lahore since last few years and only visit saudia for summers and visa renewal

@Hell hound hunn araam hai? ye mujhe lag liye hain ab....

 

[El Sidd]

but it always attracts some closeted mullahs to the thread

man kapsa and mandi are great but even america was discovered because of the famed spices of the subcontinent how can i resist its charms
ps bro after living 17 years in KSA i now spend most my time in lahore since last few years and only visit saudia for summers and visa renewal

These are not Mullahs....these are just fanatics disguised as Mullahs..... His knowledge about guns and ammo scare the bejesus outta me to be honest.

17 years...oh dear Lord.... Allah ap par reham kare... dude that is one unhealthy amount of A-rab time if i be blunt about it.

visa renewals i can understand but who prefers Saudi Arabia for summers?

 

[Manama]

Yes it's and it has been consensus of majority of scholars for past 1400 years. Those who say face covering is not farz even they say it's preferred. This has been the view for past 1400 years.


Well because you fail to come up with answer every time.

Lmao i don't know a single authentic scholar who thinks that. idk where you get your interpretations from, meh

 

[Hell hound]

17 years...oh dear Lord.... Allah ap par reham kare... dude that is one unhealthy amount of A-rab time if i be blunt about it.

you don't say bhai jan i have had enough arab time to last me and my seven generation to come (metaphorically speaking )

who prefers Saudi Arabia for summers?

wapda kay sataye hoey mazlom log

These are not Mullahs....these are just fanatics disguised as Mullahs..... His knowledge about guns and ammo scare the bejesus outta me to be honest.

most of it is wiki knowledge

 

[El Sidd]

you don't say bhai jan i have had enough arab time to last me and my seven generation to come (metaphorically speaking )

wapda kay sataye hoey mazlom log

that is just unhealthy amount of A-rab. I guess continued habitation in Lahore for 5 years may cure you of this 'problem'.

sir jee ap bhi politics join to nahi kar rahe.... wapda to bahana hi lagta hai ab haha

you don't say bhai jan i have had enough arab time to last me and my seven generation to come (metaphorically speaking )

wapda kay sataye hoey mazlom log


most of it is wiki knowledge

Wiki nahi PICKY knowledge lagti hai... that is even more disturbing

 

[Hell hound]

I guess continued habitation in Lahore for 5 years may cure you of this 'problem'.

i have been living in lahore for past 7 years now brother and believe me bro some of the arab effects are still haunting me to this day.

sir jee ap bhi politics join to nahi kar rahe.... wapda to bahana hi lagta hai ab haha

hahahaha saysi panah kay laye bhi to phir koi mulk chaey hi hota hay na bandey ko

Wiki nahi PICKY knowledge lagti hai... that is even more disturbing

truth be told bro don't know about other mullahs but he is harmless(at least in his online life) he might keep playing his broken record or maybe a bit conservative in his views but unlike many other will never stalk you or issue any personal threats and i respect him for that.

 

[El Sidd]

i have been living in lahore for past 7 years now brother and believe me bro some of the arab effects are still hunting me to this day.

hahahaha saysi panah kay laye bhi to phir koi mulk chaey hi hota hay na bandey ko

7 years....hmm then i guess Lahoris are losing their magic which i find hard to believe.... bachpan ke zakhm time lete hai hahaha

itni masoomana panah Saudia hi de sakta hai lol

i have been living in lahore for past 7 years now brother and believe me bro some of the arab effects are still hunting me to this day.

hahahaha saysi panah kay laye bhi to phir koi mulk chaey hi hota hay na bandey ko


truth be told bro don't know about other mullahs but he is harmless(at least in his online life) he might keep playing his broken record or maybe a bit conservative in his views but unlike many other will never stalk you or issue any personal threats and i respect him for that.

i hope so that is the case. His frustrations can be understood since our society is pretty much going downhill instead of DUNHILL but he should understand how to make his point across a bit more wisely.