Peaceful country doesn't have allies. China's dilemma

[kankan326]

For today's China, being "good man" doesn't meet national interest anymore. US is allying all possible countries to attack China. Which puts China in a disadvantageous situation. China's peaceful image now brings more harm than good to it. Will Saudi use Yuan as payment currency? Maybe. Will Solomon allows China to establish a military base in its territory? Mabe. Will EU stop criticizing China on all US made up issues? Maybe.

It is very easy to explain why everything is uncertain: Will China send its troops to protect Saudi or Solomon if big power like US tries to overthrow their governments? Can China help European countries to be out of US control? No one trusts China. All we saw are: Taiwan used all measures to poke and humiliate mainland China. India immediately sent its troops to cross LAC after Trump gave promise to Modi. EU chief ordered China must do somthings(see below photo).

Syria sent volunteer troops to fight for Russia. It's a return for Russia engaging in Syria war. Which country will do the same when China is in war? No one. China's being peaceful gave US a great favor. It makes US roping in neutral countries and intimidating pro-China countries extremely efficient.

Many of us worry that the west will sanction China as they do to Russia if China becomes more aggressive. 1) They already had the intention of sanctioning China like Russia even if China is still being nice. We can see that from all US policies and strategies. They didn't do it till now only because China is much powerful than Russia. 2) An overwhelming victory in a war makes China safer. EU licking US boots all the time not because US is a peaceful country. But because it can easily win wars.

If China wins a war, 1) Yuan becomes more popular in other countries. 2) EU, Japan will be shaky as US allies; 3) Reunification (Taiwan) is anticipated; 3) Many countries will voluntarily become China's "firm" allies.

 

[tower9]

China's non interventionist policy is irrelevant in today's climate. The world is charging into a chaotic free for all, China better be ready.

 

[Muhammed45]

China's non interventionist policy is irrelevant in today's climate. The world is charging into a chaotic free for all, China better be ready.

Start with Taiwan.

USA is spying on China using secret assets such as long range radars in Taiwan.

 

[Viet]

Yea highnoon for China to scrap peaceful rise shit. By the way nobody believes it.

Ukraine shows it. The weak gets slaughtered. The strong stands on ruins laughes on the dead bodies of women and children.

 

[cssniper]

No, you are wrong, all peaceful countries are allies.

 

[Clutch]

No, you are wrong, all peaceful countries are allies.

BS... All White Anglo Saxon and the Israeli are allies.... They rest are slaves or adversaries...

 

[comci]

No, you are wrong, all peaceful countries are allies.

You are right. European NATO peaceful countries with USA brought peace to Iraq,Libya and Afghanistan. Those peaceful countries that are allies together are doing oustanding job bringing ''peace'' to ''unpeaceful'' countries. In fact the so called ''peace mandate'' that only reserved to western countries to bring down ''unpeaceful countries'' are still in full swing. Which countries should your ''dear peaceful countries'' bring peace next to?

 

[Wergeland]

For today's China, being "good man" doesn't meet national interest anymore. US is allying all possible countries to attack China. Which puts China in a disadvantageous situation. China's peaceful image now brings more harm than good to it. Will Saudi use Yuan as payment currency? Maybe. Will Solomon allows China to establish a military base in its territory? Mabe. Will EU stop criticizing China on all US made up issues? Maybe.

It is very easy to explain why everything is uncertain: Will China send its troops to protect Saudi or Solomon if big power like US tries to overthrow these countries' government? Can China help European countries to be out of US control? No one trusts China. All we saw are: Taiwan used all measures to poke and humiliate mainland China. India immediately sent its troops to cross LAC after Trump gave promise to Modi. EU chief ordered China must do somthings(see below photo).

Syria sent volunteer troops to fight for Russia. It's a return for Russia engaging in Syria war. Which country will do the same when China is in war? No one. China's being peaceful gave US a great favor. It makes US roping in neutral countries and intimidating pro-China countries extremely efficient.

Many of us worry that the west will sanction China as they do to Russia if China becomes more aggressive. 1) They already had the intention of sanctioning China like Russia even if China is still being nice. We can see that from all US policies and strategies. They didn't do it till now only because China is much powerful than Russia. 2) An overwhelming victory in a war makes China safer. EU licking US boots all the time not because US is a peaceful country. But because it can easily win wars.

If China wins a war, 1) Yuan becomes more popular in other countries. 2) EU, Japan will be shaky as US allies; 3) Reunification (Taiwan) is anticipated; 3) Many countries will voluntarily become China's "firm" allies.

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People love money and riches and all that.
But when it comes to security no one will want to seek refuge in a person who is a pacifist.

Pacifism only works in a world where everyone is a pacifist.

 

[cssniper]

You are right. European NATO peaceful countries with USA brought peace to Iraq,Libya and Afghanistan. Those peaceful countries that are allies together are doing oustanding job bringing ''peace'' to ''unpeaceful'' countries. In fact the so called ''peace mandate'' that only reserved to western countries to bring down ''unpeaceful countries'' are still in full swing. Which countries should your ''dear peaceful countries'' bring peace next to?

我很好奇你是怎么定义和平的呢？

 

[comci]

我很好奇你是怎么定义和平的呢？

和平就是和平

 

[Shaheen123]

BS... All White Anglo Saxon and the Israeli are allies.... They rest are slaves or adversaries...

This is correct, the only true allies of America/West/UK are white or anglo-saxan countries like Canada, Australia, Western Europe, etc. These are the countries America is willing and has historically helped during wartime by sending troops. I find it hilarious how indians think that America will help them when China and India go to battle across the LAC and Pakistan and India on the LOC.

 

[Menace2Society]

Asia should become as peaceful and prosperous as Europe and enjoy the next 500 years.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

These are the countries America is willing and has historically helped during wartime by sending troops. I find it hilarious how indians think that America will help them when China and India go to battle across the LAC and Pakistan and India on the LOC.

Please enlighten us all on the non-European countries the US decided not to send troops to help when asked.

The only reason China doesn't have allies is that it is surrounded by mostly countries that don't trust it.
They'd rather trust the white man on the other side of the planet.

Plus South America is peaceful and most are members of

Inter-American Treaty of Reciprocal Assistance - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[comci]

Please enlighten us all on the non-European countries the US decided not to send troops to help when asked.

The only reason China doesn't have allies is that it is surrounded by mostly countries that don't trust it.
They'd rather trust the white man on the other side of the planet.

Plus South America is peaceful and most are members of

Inter-American Treaty of Reciprocal Assistance - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Peaceful and trustful white men of the USA. Protector of the brownie states in down south

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History of U.S. Interventions in Latin America ​

Location Period Type of Force Comments on U.S. Role Argentina 1890 Troops Buenos Aires interests protected Chile 1891 Troops Marines clash with nationalist rebels Haiti 1891 Troops Black workers revolt on U.S.-claimed Navassa Island defeated Nicaragua 1894 Troops Month-long occupation of Bluefields Panama 1895 Naval, troops Marines land in Colombian province Nicaragua 1896 Troops Marines land in port of Corinto Cuba 1898- Naval, troops Seized from Spain, U.S. still holds Navy base at Guantanamo Puerto Rico 1898- Naval, troops Seized from Spain, occupation continues Nicaragua 1898 Troops Marines land at port of San Juan del Sur Nicaragua 1899 Troops Marines land at port of Bluefields Honduras 1903 Troops Marines intervene in revolution Dominican Republic 1903-04 Troops U.S. interests protected in Revolution Cuba 1906-09 Troops Marines land in democratic election Nicaragua 1907 Troops "Dollar Diplomacy" protectorate set up Honduras 1907 Troops Marines land during war with Nicaragua Panama 1908 Troops Marines intervene in election contest Nicaragua 1910 Troops Marines land in Bluefields and Corinto Honduras 1911 Troops U.S. interests protected in civil war Cuba 1912 Troops U.S. interests protected in Havana Panama 1912 Troops Marines land during heated election Honduras 1912 Troops Marines protect U.S. economic interests Nicaragua 1912-33 Troops, bombing 20-year occupation, fought guerrillas Mexico 1913 Naval Americans evacuated during revolution Dominican Republic 1914 Naval Fight with rebels over Santo Domingo Mexico 1914-18 Naval, troops Series of interventions against nationalists Haiti 1914-34 Troops, bombing 19-year occupation after revolts Dominican Republic 1916-24 Troops 8-year Marine occupation Cuba 1917-33 Troops Military occupation, economic protectorate Panama 1918-20 Troops "Police duty" during unrest after elections Honduras 1919 Troops Marines land during election campaign Guatemala 1920 Troops 2-week intervention against unionists Costa Rica 1921 Troops Panama 1921 Troops Honduras 1924-25 Troops Landed twice during election strife Panama 1925 Troops Marines suppress general strike El Salvador 1932 Naval Warships sent during Faribundo Marti revolt Uruguay 1947 Nuclear threat Bombers deployed as show of strength Puerto Rico 1950 Command operation Independence rebellion crushed in Ponce Guatemala 1954-? Command operation, bombing, nuclear threat CIA directs exile invasion and coup d'Etat after newly elected government nationalizes unused U.S.'s United Fruit Company lands; bombers based in Nicaragua; long-term result: 200,000 murdered Panama 1958 Troops Flag protests erupt into confrontation Cuba 1961 Command operation CIA-directed exile invasion fails Cuba 1962 Nuclear threat, naval Blockade during missile crisis; near-war with Soviet Union Panama 1964 Troops Panamanians shot for urging canal's return Dominican Republic 1965-66 Troops, bombing Marines land during election campaign Guatemala 1966-67 Command operation Green Berets intervene against rebels Chile 1973 Command operation CIA-backed coup ousts democratically elected Marxist president El Salvador 1981-92 Command operation, troops Advisors, overflights aid anti-rebel war, soldiers briefly involved in hostage clash; long-term result: 75,000 murdered and destruction of popular movement Nicaragua 1981-90 Command operation, naval CIA directs exile (Contra) invasions, plants harbor mines against revolution; result: 50,000 murdered Honduras 1982-90 Troops Maneuvers help build bases near borders Grenada 1983-84 Troops, bombing Invasion four years after revolution Bolivia 1987 Troops Army assists raids on cocaine region Panama 1989 Troops, bombing Nationalist government ousted by 27,000 soldiers, leaders arrested, 2000+ killed Haiti 1994-95 Troops, naval Blockade against military government; troops restore President Aristide to office three years after coup Venezuela 2002 Command operation Failed coup attempt to remove left-populist president Hugo Chavez Haiti 2004- Troops Removal of democratically elected President Aristide; troops occupy country Honduras 2009 Command operation Support for coup that removed president Manuel Zelaya Sources: Blum, William. Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventionism Since World War II. Monroe, Maine: Common Courage Press, 1995. Ege & Makhijani. "180 Landings by the U.S. Marine Corps" (History Division), Counterspy (July-Aug. 1982). Foreign Affairs Division, Congressional Research Service, Library of Congress. Instances of Use of Armed Forces Abroad, 1798-2020. CRS Report for Congress, 2020. Grossman, Zoltan. Over a Century of U.S. Military Interventions. Self-published, revised Jan. 1, 1995. Sklar, Holly. "Who's Who: Invading 'Our' Hemisphere 1831-," Z Magazine (Feb. 1990). U.S. Congress, Committee on Foreign Affairs' Report. Background Information on the Use of United States Armed Forces in Foreign Countries. Washington, D.C.: 91st Congress, 2nd Session, 1970. Zinn, Howard. A People's History of the United States. New York: Perennial Library, Harper & Row, 1980. Also see Zoltan Grossman, From Wounded Knee to Iraq (A Chronology of U.S. Imperialism) Please send any suggestions, comments, corrections, additions, etc. to Marc Becker at marc@yachana.org. Last updated: 2011​ | Marc Becker's Home Page | marc@yachana.org |​

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Peaceful and trustful white men of the USA. Protector of the brownie states in down south

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History of U.S. Interventions in Latin America ​

Location Period Type of Force Comments on U.S. Role Argentina 1890 Troops Buenos Aires interests protected Chile 1891 Troops Marines clash with nationalist rebels Haiti 1891 Troops Black workers revolt on U.S.-claimed Navassa Island defeated Nicaragua 1894 Troops Month-long occupation of Bluefields Panama 1895 Naval, troops Marines land in Colombian province Nicaragua 1896 Troops Marines land in port of Corinto Cuba 1898- Naval, troops Seized from Spain, U.S. still holds Navy base at Guantanamo Puerto Rico 1898- Naval, troops Seized from Spain, occupation continues Nicaragua 1898 Troops Marines land at port of San Juan del Sur Nicaragua 1899 Troops Marines land at port of Bluefields Honduras 1903 Troops Marines intervene in revolution Dominican Republic 1903-04 Troops U.S. interests protected in Revolution Cuba 1906-09 Troops Marines land in democratic election Nicaragua 1907 Troops "Dollar Diplomacy" protectorate set up Honduras 1907 Troops Marines land during war with Nicaragua Panama 1908 Troops Marines intervene in election contest Nicaragua 1910 Troops Marines land in Bluefields and Corinto Honduras 1911 Troops U.S. interests protected in civil war Cuba 1912 Troops U.S. interests protected in Havana Panama 1912 Troops Marines land during heated election Honduras 1912 Troops Marines protect U.S. economic interests Nicaragua 1912-33 Troops, bombing 20-year occupation, fought guerrillas Mexico 1913 Naval Americans evacuated during revolution Dominican Republic 1914 Naval Fight with rebels over Santo Domingo Mexico 1914-18 Naval, troops Series of interventions against nationalists Haiti 1914-34 Troops, bombing 19-year occupation after revolts Dominican Republic 1916-24 Troops 8-year Marine occupation Cuba 1917-33 Troops Military occupation, economic protectorate Panama 1918-20 Troops "Police duty" during unrest after elections Honduras 1919 Troops Marines land during election campaign Guatemala 1920 Troops 2-week intervention against unionists Costa Rica 1921 Troops Panama 1921 Troops Honduras 1924-25 Troops Landed twice during election strife Panama 1925 Troops Marines suppress general strike El Salvador 1932 Naval Warships sent during Faribundo Marti revolt Uruguay 1947 Nuclear threat Bombers deployed as show of strength Puerto Rico 1950 Command operation Independence rebellion crushed in Ponce Guatemala 1954-? Command operation, bombing, nuclear threat CIA directs exile invasion and coup d'Etat after newly elected government nationalizes unused U.S.'s United Fruit Company lands; bombers based in Nicaragua; long-term result: 200,000 murdered Panama 1958 Troops Flag protests erupt into confrontation Cuba 1961 Command operation CIA-directed exile invasion fails Cuba 1962 Nuclear threat, naval Blockade during missile crisis; near-war with Soviet Union Panama 1964 Troops Panamanians shot for urging canal's return Dominican Republic 1965-66 Troops, bombing Marines land during election campaign Guatemala 1966-67 Command operation Green Berets intervene against rebels Chile 1973 Command operation CIA-backed coup ousts democratically elected Marxist president El Salvador 1981-92 Command operation, troops Advisors, overflights aid anti-rebel war, soldiers briefly involved in hostage clash; long-term result: 75,000 murdered and destruction of popular movement Nicaragua 1981-90 Command operation, naval CIA directs exile (Contra) invasions, plants harbor mines against revolution; result: 50,000 murdered Honduras 1982-90 Troops Maneuvers help build bases near borders Grenada 1983-84 Troops, bombing Invasion four years after revolution Bolivia 1987 Troops Army assists raids on cocaine region Panama 1989 Troops, bombing Nationalist government ousted by 27,000 soldiers, leaders arrested, 2000+ killed Haiti 1994-95 Troops, naval Blockade against military government; troops restore President Aristide to office three years after coup Venezuela 2002 Command operation Failed coup attempt to remove left-populist president Hugo Chavez Haiti 2004- Troops Removal of democratically elected President Aristide; troops occupy country Honduras 2009 Command operation Support for coup that removed president Manuel Zelaya Sources: Blum, William. Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventionism Since World War II. Monroe, Maine: Common Courage Press, 1995. Ege & Makhijani. "180 Landings by the U.S. Marine Corps" (History Division), Counterspy (July-Aug. 1982). Foreign Affairs Division, Congressional Research Service, Library of Congress. Instances of Use of Armed Forces Abroad, 1798-2020. CRS Report for Congress, 2020. Grossman, Zoltan. Over a Century of U.S. Military Interventions. Self-published, revised Jan. 1, 1995. Sklar, Holly. "Who's Who: Invading 'Our' Hemisphere 1831-," Z Magazine (Feb. 1990). U.S. Congress, Committee on Foreign Affairs' Report. Background Information on the Use of United States Armed Forces in Foreign Countries. Washington, D.C.: 91st Congress, 2nd Session, 1970. Zinn, Howard. A People's History of the United States. New York: Perennial Library, Harper & Row, 1980. Also see Zoltan Grossman, From Wounded Knee to Iraq (A Chronology of U.S. Imperialism) Please send any suggestions, comments, corrections, additions, etc. to Marc Becker at marc@yachana.org. Last updated: 2011​ | Marc Becker's Home Page | marc@yachana.org |​

You went through the trouble of writing all that gibberish as a reply to my post but you could not find one example of what I asked.

"Please enlighten us all on the non-European countries the US decided not to send troops to help when asked."

Why am I not surprised?