PDF Poll: Solution to TLP; MQM of Pakistan

[django]

Time to employ the dark arts, these folks have no interest in negotiations, its either "their way or the highway".

 

[India Pakistan]

Operation Naya Pakistan

 

[koolio]

Operation Naya Pakistan

You need to have operation in Naya India getting rid likes of moti jee, RSS and other extremist organisations when will that happen??

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I think it's a question of what sort of Pakistan we want in the future. A secular reoublic [declared or not] or a Islamic state. If we want Islamic state then TLP should be accomodated and allowed into the government to re-set Pakistan as a true Islamic state.

Because that is what TLP want. A true Islamic state. Not a hotch potch that we have at the moment.

I think it's a question of what sort of Pakistan we want in the future. A secular reoublic [declared or not] or a Islamic state. If we want Islamic state then TLP should be accomodated and allowed into the government to re-set Pakistan as a true Islamic state.

Because that is what TLP want. A true Islamic state. Not a hotch potch that we have at the moment.

If of course you want a secular state like I do. Then a clean up operation should be launched. Iron fist. No compromise. By end of the operation wipe TLP out of existence.

 

[war&peace]

Heed to their demands and solve them in an amicable way. You can't create a civil war with the 80% of the population while fighting on multiple fronts already. However their demands are not logical. Those should be heard and they should be given logical answers that they understand. No need to give in either.

I think it's a question of what sort of Pakistan we want in the future. A secular reoublic [declared or not] or a Islamic state. If we want Islamic state then TLP should be accomodated and allowed into the government to re-set Pakistan as a true Islamic state.

No secular crap..It is an Islamic republic and would stay so ...

 

[TMA]

I think it's a question of what sort of Pakistan we want in the future. A secular reoublic [declared or not] or a Islamic state. If we want Islamic state then TLP should be accomodated and allowed into the government to re-set Pakistan as a true Islamic state.

Because that is what TLP want. A true Islamic state. Not a hotch potch that we have at the moment.

If of course you want a secular state like I do. Then a clean up operation should be launched. Iron fist. No compromise. By end of the operation wipe TLP out of existence.

As if TLP are truly Islamic....

 

[Imran Khan]

Mqm is already harmless since that kala pig banned . Now tlp need to grilled

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Heed to their demands and solve them in an amicable way.

Much as I disagree with you but at least your honest in your thoughts. To be a Islamic state we need a office of the President occupied by a man of religion like Rizvi. This office would have powers to veto any government legislation that goes against Islamic principles. Plus this office would have power to give religious based ordinances. Only then would Pakistan be a real 'Islamic republic' unlike the sham we have right now which is niether secular or Islamic. It is a bastardised version of both.

And I can't think of a better man to occupy the office of supreme Islamic president then Rizvi. A Sunni version of the Iranian Vilayet-e- Fiqhe. Supreme religious leader. Then we can change the name to Islamic caliphate of Pakistan.

As if TLP are truly Islamic

Well, they are according to Rizvi and his supporters. Go say that to his face. I dare you. Warning: You better be able to fly or run faster then Usain Bolt.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Use of brutal force is stupid.

Not until the robs threatens blood shed or commits some sort of serious breach.

 

[Mentee]

Bring in the Tanks

Bring in the nukes tank would be an under kill - - - - - -.

 

[war&peace]

Much as I disagree with you but at least your honest in your thoughts. To be a Islamic state we need a office of the President occupied by a man of religion like Rizvi. This office would have powers to veto any government legislation that goes against Islamic principles. Plus this office would have power to give religious based ordinances. Only then would Pakistan be a real 'Islamic republic' unlike the sam we have right now which is niether secular or Islamic. It is a bastardised version of both.

And I can't think of a better man to occupy the office of supreme Islamic president then Rizvi. A Sunni version of the Iranian Vilayet-e- Fiqhe. Supreme religious leader. Then we can change the name to Islamic caliphate of Pakistan.

Well, your understanding of an Islamic republic is limited. BTW what you said is already in place ...as per the constitution of Pakistan no legislation can be done that is against the teachings of Islam i.e. Holy Quran. However, we need to move towards the presidential system since the current model has failed miserably. Right now we have multiple power centres (i) political govt (ii) judiciary (iii) military establishment (iv) bureaucracy and their mutual tug of war keeps hurting the state. Govt transfers a police officer, the cheap justice suspends the decision through his suo-moto...WTF... do you know that I have stopped sending monthly funds to his dam-fund because I don't trust this cheap man any more.. I really doubt his sincerity and too he appears to be an attention grabbing disgruntled old man who is abusing his powers and hurting the state.... so this system has out lived its utility. We need presidential system like the one in Turkey, USA or Russia.

 

[313ghazi]

Heed to their demands and solve them in an amicable way. You can't create a civil war with the 80% of the population while fighting on multiple fronts already. However their demands are not logical. Those should be heard and they should be given logical answers that they understand. No need to give in either.


No secular crap..It is an Islamic republic and would stay so ...

These people do not represent 80% of the public. This is the time to strip them down and show them for what they are.

CJP has an excellent reputation amongst the general public, as does Imran Khan. IK is going to do a public address, he should talk about the facts of the case, tell people to read the judgement for themselves in Urdu or English. He should stand by CJP, talk him up and tell all protestors that anyone breaking the law, will be dealt with by force.

PEMRA should also instruct all media channels to present the facts of the verdict, not to give running coverage of protests and to push other items onto the news agenda. They seek the spotlight, it gives them oxygen.

The govt should send an official communication to all masjids to be announced on friday before jummah telling people about the verdict, the facts of the case, the right to peaceful protest, but a warning against blocking roads and violent protest.

It will spread the seed of discontent in the ranks of the mullah brigade. Most people trust CJP and IK more than Khadim Rizwi. This is true even of conservatives. If you give them reason to doubt the "cast iron" case presented by the bakras, they will doubt it, they certainly won't take to the streets.

This will reduce the numbers of protestors and reduce their backup. At the same time arrest anyone breaking the law, organise police, rangers and army, take in their organisers and the rest will fall.

If they flop this friday, they won't have the momentum anymore next week.

 

[war&peace]

Use of brutal force is stupid.

Not until the robs threatens blood shed or commits some sort of serious breach.

You know some idiots and keyboard warriors want to see the blood on the streets and a civil war in Pakistan. A lot more dangerous than TLP is PTM but none has suggested any such action against them. NDS and Afghan govt have been openly supporting PTM and they have arms and links with terrorists and they bark against the Pakistan and Pakistan army on daily basis. But our libturdies on PDF never had so much problem from PTM.. lakh di lanat on these troublemakers

These people do not represent 80% of the public. This is the time to strip them down and show them for what they are.

Yeah I agree, I was conservative.. they are 85+ % .. no you can't strip down such a large population without annihilating the state..

CJP has an excellent reputation amongst the general public, as does Imran Khan

He is an attention seeking whore but really he does not have a good reputation among people.. People make fun of him... PMLN and its supporters are already against him and now his confrontational and greed for power has made him unpopular with PTI-voters and now this decision makes unpopular among the general masses... if he is so popular, he should contest elections after his retirement in Jan next year i.e. around 2.5 months from now.

IK is going to do a public address, he should talk about the facts of the case, tell people to read the judgement for themselves in Urdu or English.

Why should IK do bidding on the behalf of the CJP who is creating troubles for his govt since they day one by taking suo-motos over petty issues? Even deciding this case right now has a malicious intent of creating troubles for the present govt.
So I would rather say the govt should stay neutral and focus on important issues and let the people and the judiciary settle their scores... Govt should not use any force rather facilitate the people and PEMRA has no right to suppress the voice of masses.
Furthermore, it is the job of the judiciary to explain its verdicts to the people in easy to understand language...not the govt's job..

 

[Jf Thunder]

Bring in the nukes tank would be an under kill - - - - - -.

we cannot Nuke our own country

 

[TheNoob]

You know some idiots and keyboard warriors want to see the blood on the streets and a civil war in Pakistan. A lot more dangerous than TLP is PTM but none has suggested any such action against them. NDS and Afghan govt have been openly supporting PTM and they have arms and links with terrorists and they bark against the Pakistan and Pakistan army on daily basis. But our libturdies on PDF never had so much problem from PTM.. lakh di lanat on these troublemakers


Yeah I agree, I was conservative.. they are 85+ % .. no you can't strip down such a large population without annihilating the state..


He is an attention seeking whore but really he does not have a good reputation among people.. People make fun of him... PMLN and its supporters are already against him and now his confrontational and greed for power has made him unpopular with PTI-voters and now this decision makes unpopular among the general masses... if he is so popular, he should contest elections after his retirement in Jan next year i.e. around 2.5 months from now.

Why should IK do bidding on the behalf of the CJP who is creating troubles for his govt since they day one by taking suo-motos over petty issues? Even deciding this case right now has a malicious intent of creating troubles for the present govt.
So I would rather say the govt should stay neutral and focus on important issues and let the people and the judiciary settle their scores... Govt should not use any force rather facilitate the people and PEMRA has no right to suppress the voice of masses.
Furthermore, it is the job of the judiciary to explain its verdicts to the people in easy to understand language...not the govt's job..

From my understanding...
Ethnic Issue =/= PsuedoReligious Issue.