PAT- Dr. Tahir-Ul-Qadri's Political Desk

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Must Listen 11 May, 2014 speech:

Tahir ul qadri speech 11th may 2014 | Tune.pk

 

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TUQ will be giving last last call for reforms sooner.

 

[target killer (MQM)]

jaldi ajao ab Qadri

 

[Kompromat]

I fail to understand why Dr Qadri expects people to protest while he sits in Canada.

 

[batmannow]

I fail to understand why Dr Qadri expects people to protest while he sits in Canada.

same way , i also failed to understand why, PTI havnt joind him in long march & in his dharna, when he was here, even though elections were not fair, & resulted in another rule of croupts?

 

[Old Navigator]

I fail to understand why Dr Qadri expects people to protest while he sits in Canada.

Well, both Imran khan and TUQ are following same strategy. This(ese) show(s) was(ere) no more than testing show(s) in which both leaders were checking that if they are called for the TRUE Change, how many would come and if people of Pakistan are ready to fight against the current government (political change) or not !

Remember the last time when he came? he came in the wrong time, when majority of parties (incl. PTI) were not ready for elections or change, when they believed in honesty of PPP or ECP (knowingly it is impossible, still they supported them instead of TUQ) . TUQ objectives, as described by himself, were as follows:

"to bring honest, non-political and competent caretaker government through consultation with the military and the judiciary; reconstitution of the Election Commission and strict implementation of the eligibility criteria for election candidates laid in Articles 62 and 63 of Pakistan’s constitution."

However, when no political party nor agencies endorsed his purposes then he was left with no other choice. He had to talk with government and political parties to end the dharna.

In shot, he does not want to repeat that mistake nor Imran Khan thats why they both were ensuring/checking if this is the right time or not. One must be living in fool's paradise if he thinks that without TUQ support Imran Khan can bring reforms/changes.
JI, MQM (karachi votes), PLM-N and various others (PPP, JSQM) hate PTI because it will eat away their shares.

same way , i also failed to understand why, PTI havnt joind him in long march & in his dharna, when he was here, even though elections were not fair, & resulted in another rule of croupts?

just think for a second, If Imran khan and TUQ were doing jalsa together then all opposition parties would have been saying that see Khan has no power to bring people at jalsa therefore, he had to join TUQ and vise-versa. It would have damage the both parties. I think its enough to say that khan without any political party has good power to bring people (not as good as TUQ). Now, after separate jalsa for each party, if they combine then they would become uncontrollable power( on larger scale then if the were doing jalsa together) for the government.

 

[ssethii]

This was just to listen to a Great speech.
Whats next?

 

[Old Navigator]

This was just to listen to a Great speech.
Whats next?

Well, to bring change you have to do two things:

1) Sabr/patience/endurance till the right time (so that maximum people can join/become aware); and
2) When right time comes, support the correct movement;

https://twitter.com/x/status/465481684498927616

https://twitter.com/x/status/465489339019829248

These are two things which yields positive results. If anything is missing, it fails the very moment. At the moment, TUQ is still creating awareness so that when right time comes, he would give call, then it would depends on support of people.

 

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TUQ Jalsa - Rawalpindi

Karachi

Janon aisa Jo na dekha kabhi

 

[Kompromat]

same way , i also failed to understand why, PTI havnt joind him in long march & in his dharna, when he was here, even though elections were not fair, & resulted in another rule of croupts?

Two events are not related.

If TuQ is serious, he needs to be on the ground with Awaam unless he wants to become like Altaf Hussain.

 

[Old Navigator]

Two events are not related.

If TuQ is serious, he needs to be on the ground with Awaam unless he wants to become like Altaf Hussain.

As two events were unrelated, similarly those two people cannot be compared.

Altaf Hussain can never ever come to Pakistan, even his followers know it well enough. Whenever he come, those would be his last few days of his life. He has made too many enemies to finish them.


As compared to this TUQ comes to Pakistan when required. Last year he himself was leading the jalsa. He has said that he would give final call and himself will come and lead the people for the change.

 

[Luftwaffe]

Two events are not related.

If TuQ is serious, he needs to be on the ground with Awaam unless he wants to become like Altaf Hussain.

TuQ is no different than mqm, cries and than sits with the same people.

However there is something media/other political parties makes fun of him about being in Canada don't we know zardari/family has UK, France, US, U.A.E citizenships, so nawaz family are also holders of UK/Arab citizenships. 75% sindhi politicians have UK/Canada citizenships.

 

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However there is something media/other political parties makes fun of him about being in Canada don't we know zardari/family has UK, France, US, U.A.E citizenships, so nawaz family are holders of UK/Arab citizenships. 75% sindhi politicians have UK/Canada citizenships.

Double standards nothing more....

I don't think any politician will be having Arab citizenship. But they do have at least 1 another nationality other than Pakistan’s

 

[Luftwaffe]

Double standards nothing more....

Question to media is why don't they question nawaz family and zardari family that how is it possible to establish multibillion dollars businesses in various EU-arab countries without citizenship...it is next to impossible.

 

[Al Bhatti]

Question to media is why don't they question nawaz family and zardari family that how is it possible to establish multibillion dollars businesses in various EU-arab countries without citizenship...it is next to impossible.

The Media?

Last week on a Pakistani TV talk show the anchor was showing some NICOP cards of some personalities proving they are dual citizenship holders. Well, NICOP is issued to all Pakistanis residing outside Pakistan. The holder might be having second or third nationality or permanent residency depending on where the person is residing or might not even have either one of them. But if a person is in USA or European countries or Australia no one would say no to get a passport there.

But the funny part is in the news bar the channel was showing some names and saying they have UAE nationalities based on their NICOPs.

In gulf countries dual citizenship is not allowed. If “somehow” you do manage to get a gulf passport you are not allowed to use the first passport, and even vice versa. Infact you have to denounce it as this is one of the condition.

In this case if you denounce Pakistani nationality, the NICOP will be automatically cancelled.