PAT- Dr. Tahir-Ul-Qadri's Political Desk

[batmannow]

hello, the cleanup of system can happen within 90 days of the caretaker system and it has to, if the duration of reforms and cleanup is prolonged, the elections delays then it will cause more problems then anything, the nation has to follow the time table and if time table isnt followed it will create anarchy

Due respects!
Its not a godsend oder tht everything shouldbe done in 90 days,5 years of crouption, lootings, murders, law breakings &weak economic conditions can't be reached & solved in 90 days, a real opreation cleanup against every type of terrorism can't be done 90 days?
& if we follow ur formula of election after 90 days all the old thiefs will be back with more power thn before, it has tobe decided once & forever, what ever it takes!
Right Electional reforms ,right cencess of population, right voters list all over the country should be the need of hour &, should be done, how much time it will takes!
Constitution of pakistan says it, tht even if it takes more thn 90 days so be it!
What more dam anarchy we can have thn what it is today?
Thts all prapoganda is a fear of preasent day rulling thiefS who , wanted to purchase their elitness through unfair electoral process?
We can't just give poison to the kids in a school, even their majority out numbers, teacher teaching them, just because kids are in a majority???

 

[darkinsky]

Due respects!
Its not a godsend oder tht everything shouldbe done in 90 days,5 years of crouption, lootings, murders, law breakings &weak economic conditions can't be reached & solved in 90 days, a real opreation cleanup against every type of terrorism can't be done 90 days?
& old thiefs will be back with more power thn before, it has tobe decided once & forever, what ever it takes!
Right Electional reforms ,right cencess of population, right voters list all over the country should be the need of hour &, should be done, how much time it will takes!
Constitution of pakistan says it, tht even if it takes more thn 90 days so be it!
What more dam anarchy we can have thn what it is today?
Thts all prapoganda is a fear of preasent day rulling thiefS who , wanted to purchase their elitness through unfair electoral process?

it takes decades to build an empire, it takes minutes to destroy them, it took them 5 years to do their corruption, it will take days to send them all behind bars and cleanse the system

we can all jail all those you evaded tax simple as that

 

[Tameem]

MQM, PTI may form coalition with Dr Qadri

Tahir Khalil
Tuesday, December 25, 2012
From Print Edition

ISLAMABAD: Tehrik-e-Minhajul Quran head Allama Tahirul Qadri’s demand for consultation with the judiciary and the military in the formation of a caretaker set-up and the agenda he put forth in his mega public gathering in Lahore has set off ripples through the corridors of power in Islamabad.

President Asif Ali Zardari has been in Karachi for the last week and now the prime minister has also gone to the port city on Monday and held important discussions with the president.

During the meeting between the two, Dr Qadri’s disturbing statement was discussed, as itwas in every key decision-making institution in Islamabad.

The ruling elite thinks that Dr Qadri landed at the Minar-e-Pakistan ground carrying a certain agenda and his speech has revealed key points of this agenda. Political sources say the active participation of the MQM in Dr Qadri’s public gathering and then Imran Khan’s support for his agenda indicate an effective political alliance in the future, comprising the three parties.

They say that these three parties have completed their homework on the formation of their possible alliance. For all the efforts it made, the PPP has failed to stop the MQM from participating in the public gathering.

Political pundits see that a possible alliance of Dr Qadri, Altaf Hussain and Imran Khan will mainly focus on the politics of the Punjab, where the biggest electoral fight is going to be conducted.

It is also reported that Dr Qadri will now set his camp in Karachi, where he could manage another big public gathering with the help of the MQM.

Analysts in Islamabad think that Dr Qadri has a certain agenda as he has given the government only 17 days for reforming the electoral process, failing which he would launch a massive march on the federal capital.

They think that it is not merely an announcement but Dr Qadri has also completed his homework on it.

It is believed that the elite has been behind the success of all long marches from the one announced by the PNA during Bhutto’s government to the one announced by Nawaz Sharif under the present government.

The ruling party however, believes that Dr Qadri may not launch the long march and his statement may be confined to an announcement. In the current scenario, the PML-Q’s reaction is meaningful. The PML-Q has congratulated Dr Qadri upon his successful public gathering. Against this backdrop, it can be said that Dr Qadri and his two allied parties could give Nawaz Sharif a tough time in Punjab.
MQM, PTI may form coalition with Dr Qadri - thenews.com.pk

So finally Its begins shaping in.........The Establishment's Alliance!!

 

[batmannow]

it takes decades to build an empire, it takes minutes to destroy them, it took them 5 years to do their corruption, it will take days to send them all behind bars and cleanse the system

we can all jail all those you evaded tax simple as that

It took 16 god dam years to decide the fate of asghar khan case & more thn 12 years to reach a understanding on swiss money, bt in 2 to 3 years pakistan would be ready to hold very correct elections with rightly done electoral changes, & sure it will be enough time to stablize law & oder in the country, & at least we can reach to the understandings where, laws been broken which laws broken, who did what crouption at what time , all those lossers wouldbe banned to be a part of any political party, & thn that would the time to hve fresh govt with, fresh elections!

 

[darkinsky]

So finally Its begins shaping in.........The Establishment's Alliance!!

a typical uneducated village guy from PMLN wont understand the meaning and fruits of democracy, he is grow to follow his eternal masters, that kingdom and dynasty which nawaz established using the establishment, eternally keep serving him generations after generations with rights of a slave, he is deaf dumb and blind, will only cry 'establishment' if there is some real democracy at work

sigh

 

[darkinsky]

It took 16 god dam years to decide the fate of asghar khan case & more thn 12 years to reach a understanding on swiss money, bt in 2 to 3 years pakistan would be ready to hold very correct elections with rightly done electoral changes, & sure it will be enough time to stablize law & oder in the country, & at least we can reach to the understandings where, laws been broken which laws broken, who did what crouption at what time , all those lossers wouldbe banned to be a part of any political party, & thn that would the time to hve fresh govt with, fresh elections!

im saying that atleast the tax evasion which has brought big criminals like smugglers, illegal business men like al copone to the bars, can be used, and i hope 99.99% corrupt criminals will be already banned to participate in elections, tax report is already published

second being the educational criteria for contesting elections made law under musharraf which was removed after by PPP and which will make guys like nawaz ineligible

this can be used for temperory bases, full corruption analysis can be made after elections

i should repeat, that no interim government should be as long as for three years, pakistan under such circumstances cant afford to be in such situation, war on terror is upon us, we need a proper representative, a group which can lead pakistan out of this mes, interim government wont have such people, we need an immediate recovery, we arnt bound to survive for long with this

 

[batmannow]

it takes decades to build an empire, it takes minutes to destroy them, it took them 5 years to do their corruption, it will take days to send them all behind bars and cleanse the system

we can all jail all those you evaded tax simple as that

Taxation is nt the biggest problem today in pakistan ,its law & order?
To hve better law & oder , we need a better govt , & for a better govt , we need to hve a rightly manged elections, & for better election we need good electoral reforms , & to hve better electoral reforms we, need to have a justifyied interm set up for a period of time in which that govt can tAke pakistAn on a stayble position?
& I don't sEe it happening under the crunt political parties setup?

 

[Tameem]

a typical uneducated village guy from PMLN wont understand the meaning and fruits of democracy, he is grow to follow his eternal masters, that kingdom and dynasty which nawaz established using the establishment, eternally keep serving him generations after generations with rights of a slave, he is deaf dumb and blind, will only cry 'establishment' if there is some real democracy at work

sigh

Sadda K-uta..K-uta,....Tuada K-uta..TOMMY

 

[batmannow]

im saying that atleast the tax evasion which has brought big criminals like smugglers, illegal business men like al copone, can be used, and i hope 99.99% corrupt criminals will be already banned to participate in elections, tax report is already published

second being the educational criteria for contesting elections made law under musharraf which was removed after by PPP and which will make guys like nawaz ineligible

this can be used for temperory bases, full corruption analysis can be made after elections

What ever bad happened in pakistan is jst because our goddam politicians kept us liviing on the ad-hoc system by which they hve kept their politics runing, that's why its self intersts over national intersts?
Which is bringing worst of the wrost politicians who can't be able to solve the problems of genrl pakistanis?
Thts why its time to change, decide it or live with old thiefs with their dam croupted money?

 

[darkinsky]

Taxation is nt the biggest problem today in pakistan ,its law & order?
To hve better law & oder , we need a better govt , & for a better govt , we need to hve a rightly manged elections, & for better election we need good electoral reforms , & to hve better electoral reforms we, need to have a justifyied interm set up for a period of time in which that govt can tAke pakistAn on a stayble position?
& I don't sEe it happening under the crunt political parties setup?

tax evasion is not the biggest problem, but you obviously fail to understand my point, we have no way out here simply

1) cant afford to have elections delayed

2) cant afford to manage elections in current absurd system which allows the criminal to contest elections again

what im telling you is the quick fix, and thats all

the quick fix is to bar all those which evaded tax which made al capone arrested when there was no other evidence of his smuggling activity, a criminal was caught by tax evasion

this is believe me the only solution, interim govt isnt representative of the people, we cant delay the transfer of power process, because war on terror and other terrifying problems is upon us

also those parties like PMLN and PPP will already start propaganda( that is a conspiracy on democracy etc etc) if the elctions arnt held on time meaning weakened state

 

[darkinsky]

if the alliance tries to undermine elections it wouldnt be a bigger enemy then me who will oppose this

but if this alliance is for the reforms and clean up of the system, if its for elections without delay then i whole heartedly support it

when PPP is in power there is go bhutto go chants, same happens when PMLN is in power and chants of go nawaz go, and the cycle keeps repeating and the nation is fooled by these gimicks, one's loot in power and government strengthens others in opposition

im glad that these two mighty monsters who took repeated turns after turns to make the nation fool, ate their money, did nothing will be answerable at last

pakistan has to move forward now, enough is enough

 

[Tameem]

im glad that these two mighty monsters who took repeated turns after turns to make the nation fool, ate their money, did nothing will be answerable at last

This is the crying call for our establishment since Musharraf......to somehow excludes both forcefully & unconstitutionally and then bring in thier own "Real Democracy".........keep it up!!

 

[Wasif A.K.]

So what i see here is when PMLn buys jageerdaar's and wadaira landlords through money instead of actually earning the Hearts of the people to increase their vote bank, they become ryt to the extent but when any one else is about to form an ALLIANCE for the sake of the common people they become ESTABLISHMENT BACKED ONES ?

Height of blindness is what i may like to call it. Keep crying...

 

[darkinsky]

This is the crying call for our establishment since Musharraf......to somehow excludes both forcefully & unconstitutionally and then bring in thier own "Real Democracy".........keep it up!!

lets be real, your failures and absolute incapability has fuelled this matter, if you guys were democratic, you guys had endorsed real democracy which doesnt support kingdom type setup in PMLN or PPP, if it had encouraged to make leaders out of grass roots level, pakistani wont have faced embarrasment today

the thing is people dont grow up, we have already seen nawaz in 90s, we saw how democracy got strengthened since the time of charter of democracy, and how we saw the same rusted governance, we were forced back to old british slavery commissionaire system after abolishing the local body system, power hungry rats in govt didnt like grass roots representation

it seems none of the present mainstream parties tried to mature up get democratic but rather tow that old ancient line of dynastic rule full of favours, corruption, money used to buy vptes and seats, same election rigging, we just saw in punjab by elections

you can curse musharraf a lot, even i do in many cases, but he still paved way for real democracy, like local body system, like media etc, its his blessings we are really seeing free media and general awareness of the populance

it seems you guys wont grow up any further, time to look into another options

people are too much sick to tow that old ancient line now

 

[baqai]

it would be very interesting to see this collaboration, it would be even more interesting if we mix Mushraf in that.