Chhorna nahi chahiye tha.I agree...just that we should have shot Raymond Davis dead too
Koi mazburi rahi hogi.
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Chhorna nahi chahiye tha.I agree...just that we should have shot Raymond Davis dead too
Its not a personality cult, its deepest love, you didnt have a Leader like Atatürk who came to save you in your darkest times, neither do you have a nation state so i dont expect you to understand it.Personally, I think they should stop that personality cult.
Its not a personality cult, its deepest love, you didnt have a Leader like Atatürk who came to save you in your darkest times, neither do you have a nation state so i dont expect you to understand it.
Was Gulen terrorist when Erdogan posed with him? If Gulen was recognized as terrorist by then Yes Erdogan can/should be judged, If Gulen wasn't, there is no harm tracking/checking anybody who posed with A terrorist.
280 sex abuses per year in Evangelical Churches.
I was more thinking protestant churches in Europe.
I see a guy with a scarf, and I dont even recognize it as a flag of any particular organistation.
Which flag is that supposed to be?
There are no agreements on who are terrorist and who are not.
The US considers PKK to be terrorists, but not YPG.
Atatürk was a soldier before he was a politician he dedicated his life to serve his people even thought he wasnt supposed to do it, he got the death sentence for refusing to bow down to imperialists even thought he could have just accepted the order to retreat, he could have watched the european powers grabbing anatolia instead of organazing a counter attack.You know that you are define personality cult contrary to your statement, it is not a personality cult. However, maybe we are to pragmatic and rational. At the end, we see Politician as employees who should do their job. If not, we would fired them, doesn’t matter if we “like” that person or not. A little bit distance is not a bad thing.
There are more than enough proofs for Gülen being behind the coup, just because west denies it doesnt mean its all wrong.
The US also denied other regime changes/attempts for decades until it became declassified eventually, and this ist the first regime change in Turkey supported by USA either, this one will be no different.
He was...Was Gulen terrorist when Erdogan posed with him? If Gulen was recognized as terrorist by then Yes Erdogan can/should be judged, If Gulen wasn't, there is no harm tracking/checking anybody who posed with A terrorist.
Im not talking about the people but goverments, German BND says they dont believe it, on what Basis? Nobody knows.I am not aware that people in the West has denied that Gülen is behind the coup.
The US has asked for proof before extradition can be considered.
What proof has been presented, when and where.
Some would consider arresting 100,000 citizens within a few days of the coup attempt,
a coup in itself. There is no way that this can be the result of investigations after the coup.
I do not have any particular fondness for Gülen.
I just note that Erdogan is not really Mr. Clean himself.
Atatürk was a soldier before he was a politician he dedicated his life to serve his people even thought he wasnt supposed to do it, he got the death sentence for refusing to bow down to imperialists even thought he could have just accepted the order to retreat, he could have watched the european powers grabbing anatolia instead of organazing a counter attack.
Btw: ironically today is a symbolic day regarding Atatürk, namely the start of great offensive.
We would be ungrateful traitors if we didnt show gratitute for his extraordinary services for this nation, it isnt mandatory for Turks to stand still for a minute on 10th november 09:05 yet they do, you cant show a similar exsample like this in the world.
As said i dont expect you to understand it.
There are grades even in Hell.Do you know any clean politicians? Me not.
There are grades even in Hell.
We do not have anyone like Erdogan here, and that is a boon.
There are grades even in Hell.
We do not have anyone like Erdogan here, and that is a boon.