‘Past is past’: Dalai Lama says Tibet wants to stay with China, wants development

[Buddhistforlife]

The Dalai Lama also pitched for respect and recognition of the ‘Hindi-Chini bhai bhai’ spirit to take Sino-Indian relations forward.

Tibet does not seek independence from China but wants greater development, Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama said in Kolkata Thursday.

China and Tibet enjoyed a close relationship, though there were occasional “fights”, he said at an interactive session organised by the Indian Chamber of Commerce.

“The past is past. We will have to look into the future,” he said, stressing that Tibetans wanted to stay with China.

“We are not seeking independence... We want to stay with China. We want more development,” the spiritual leader of the Tibetan people said.

The Dalai Lama also said China must respect Tibetans’ culture and heritage.

“Tibet has a different culture and a different script... The Chinese people love their own country. We love our own country,” he said.

Holding that no Chinese “understand what had happened in the last few decades”, he said the country had changed over the years.

“With China joining the world, it has changed 40% to 50% of what it was earlier,” he said.

The Dalai Lama referred to the ecological significance of the Tibetan Plateau and recalled that a Chinese ecologist had said its environmental impact was like that of the South Pole and the North Pole.

“The ecologist called it the Third Pole,” the Buddhist leader said.

The Dalai Lama said, “From Yangtze to Sindhu rivers, major rivers ... come from Tibet. Billions of lives are involved. Taking care of the Tibetan Plateau is not only good for Tibet but for billions of people.”

The Dalai Lama also pitched for respect and recognition of the ‘Hindi-Chini bhai bhai’ spirit to take Sino-India relations forward.

“India and China should eventually find respect for ‘Hindi-Chini bhai bhai’,” he told the media when asked on China’s objections to President Ram Nath Kovind’s visit to Arunachal Pradesh.

He said “China needs India, India needs China” and “they have to live side by side”.

“There is no other way except to live peacefully and help each other,” he said.

source: http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...development/story-1G6YiP0ZUhImWNgUmLbjUN.html

The reason why Tibet does not want to stay with China is because Tibetans are Buddhists and the Chinese government is atheist who would not tolerate other beliefs.

 

[nang2]

The reason why Tibet does not want to stay with China is because Tibetans are Buddhists and the Chinese government is atheist who would not tolerate other beliefs.

True. But China also has hundreds of millions of Buddhists and apparently not all of them are Tibetans.

I don't think there is any trust left between Dala Lama and China government.

 

[帅的一匹]

The reason why Tibet does not want to stay with China is because Tibetans are Buddhists and the Chinese government is atheist who would not tolerate other beliefs.

bull.shit.

 

[nang2]

Those Buddhists are just by name and cannot practice their religion freely. China in the middle ages were tolerant of all religions and Buddhism was hughly respected but recently due to communism being widespread, many Buddhists fled to neighbouring countries like Brunei and Malaysia to be able to practice Buddhism freely and now the Tibetans wants freedom.

Depends on how you define "freely". If you mean they should be free to criticize the government, no, they are not free as with other groups in China. If you mean they should be free to practice their religion in private, yes, they are free as with other religious groups. It is the public influence of religions that China government doesn't like. So, mass gathering, public lectures outside of temples, protesting, public display of Dala Lama, spiritual practices that don't belong to any established religions, etc, could be banned or harassed.

 

[empirefighter]

Those Buddhists are just by name and cannot practice their religion freely. China in the middle ages were tolerant of all religions and Buddhism was hughly respected but recently due to communism being widespread, many Buddhists fled to neighbouring countries like Brunei and Malaysia to be able to practice Buddhism freely and now the Tibetans wants freedom.


Tibet will be free whether the Chinese like it or not. Dalai Lama is the leader of the buddhist world and he will lead independent Tibet after we get rid of Chinese influence in Tibet.

whatever you dream, the fact is China is the only hope of buddhist world. Comparing to other religions, Chinese view budism as the closest religion and national religion (if we have to choose one). Look at other buddism world,all are in rubbish status. If China fail, there is no any powerful coutry to protect buddism and buddism will be vanished by other religions, you obviously cannot only count on the monks to pass this religion. Donot make any judgement about China because you are so ignorant.

 

[empirefighter]

Exactly thats why Tibet wont want to be with China. If Tibet can be an independent state then we can practice Buddhism and conduct Buddhist festivals openly. We can have state holidays for Buddhist festivals and state recognition of Buddhism while its not possible in China. Chinese troops even attack the monks and in free Tibet our monks would live like kings. And what state recognized religion are you talking about? China does not have any state religion.


In todays world most muslim states are in shitty condition and the powerful muslim states are under colonisation but Islam is still strong. Why do we need powerful Buddhist states?

Tibet belong to China at least 4 hundred years ago. The land belonged to the emperor not the religion leader. Dalai wanted to seek more power but failed, that was the ambition of the religion leader, nothing about the buddism. In fact, Dalai is a Han Chinese not native Tibetean, he got his position because the Chinese goverment gave him the title. Without the central goverment granted him the Dalai title, he is nobody and cannot be recognised by the native Tibeteans. We are waiting for his death and re-choose another Dalai.

 

[nang2]

Exactly thats why Tibet wont want to be with China. If Tibet can be an independent state then we can practice Buddhism and conduct Buddhist festivals openly. We can have state holidays for Buddhist festivals and state recognition of Buddhism while its not possible in China. Chinese troops even attack the monks and in free Tibet our monks would live like kings. And what state recognized religion are you talking about? China does not have any state religion.

That is what I disagree to. I think religious practice or any type of spiritual practice is a personal matter. I am fine just to practice it in private. Open activities have less value to me. Some people may need such activities to enforce their own belief. But it is also a fertile ground for envy, power gripping and mind manipulation.

And I don't think monks should live like kings. Whatever they take from ordinary people has to be paid by their own spiritual merits. Monks, after all, are still practicing. They are not Buddha yet.

 

[empirefighter]

Exactly thats why Tibet wont want to be with China. If Tibet can be an independent state then we can practice Buddhism and conduct Buddhist festivals openly. We can have state holidays for Buddhist festivals and state recognition of Buddhism while its not possible in China. Chinese troops even attack the monks and in free Tibet our monks would live like kings. And what state recognized religion are you talking about? China does not have any state religion.


In todays world most muslim states are in shitty condition and the powerful muslim states are under colonisation but Islam is still strong. Why do we need powerful Buddhist states?


However i can't ignore the fact that China did many things for Buddhism. Whenever the Buddhist world fell into trouble, China came to help even Myanmar who faced threat from the muslim world for genocide against rohingyas was saved by China.

China will be never a religious country just as Muslim countries, Thailand and so on. If you knew our history, you would know: we became a buddism country about 1000 years ago in Tang dynasty for some time, but the emperor soon found out the country became weaker and weaker, then he sent army to destroy the temples. That was a famous historial incident, after that, emperors and religion leaders have a clear red line, no religion leader can get the power beyond the spirital world. In fact, almost all Chinese emperors are buddist and most of Chinese are familar with buddism, but we still cannot accept religion lesders like Dalai to get the power that beyound religion. At last, We Chinese generally have more closer feeling to the buddism countries just as Thailand, Myanmar, Sirilanka, Butanand et al.

 

[Buddhistforlife]

China will be never a religious country just as Muslim countries, Thailand and so on. If you knew our history, you would know: we became a buddism country about 1000 years ago in Tang dynasty for some time, but the emperor soon found out the country became weaker and weaker, then he sent army to destroy the temples. That was a famous historial incident, after that, emperors and religion leaders have a clear red line, no religion leader can get the power beyond the spirital world. In fact, almost all Chinese emperors are buddist and most of Chinese get familar to buddism. We Chinese generally have more closer feeling to the buddism countries just as Thailand, Myanmar, Sirilanka, Butanand et al.

You said that without powerful country like China Buddhism will vanish away but if you look at muslim countries most of them are either war striken lands, ruled by puppets or economically backward but why are muslims not declining if power is everything?

 

[nang2]

You said that without powerful country like China Buddhism will vanish away but if you look at muslim countries most of them are either war striken lands, ruled by puppets or economically backward but why are muslims not declining if power is everything?

That is fine. Buddhists will follow other religious/spiritual groups. Saints were not created by powerful countries. Powerful countries often feed on whatever merit saints have brought in.

 

[empirefighter]

You said that without powerful country like China Buddhism will vanish away but if you look at muslim countries most of them are either war striken lands, ruled by puppets or economically backward but why are muslims not declining if power is everything?

Because the big powers keep the world balance. Look at the Arab world, the people cannot even revenge to the tiny Isreal because of USA, just because Muslim world specially the Arab world donot have big power. The world never change, religion, human race, civilization still the main different factors of human if no aliens come to the earth.
I donot see the buddism country will have the same destiny if we are powerful. Thought we are not a buddist country, we also feel painful if we see buddist countries suppressed by other religions.

 

[xyxmt]

Indians won't be happy

Indian gave him up already, the only support he had is gone under Chinese power

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Indian gave him up already, the only support he had is gone under Chinese power

Just give him another 10plus years. He's 83 now, won't be long. If he lives past 100, the Ccp should award him a medal

 

[Buddhistforlife]

China will be never a religious country just as Muslim countries, Thailand and so on. If you knew our history, you would know: we became a buddism country about 1000 years ago in Tang dynasty for some time, but the emperor soon found out the country became weaker and weaker, then he sent army to destroy the temples. That was a famous historial incident, after that, emperors and religion leaders have a clear red line, no religion leader can get the power beyond the spirital world. In fact, almost all Chinese emperors are buddist and most of Chinese are familar with buddism, but we still cannot accept religion lesders like Dalai to get the power that beyound religion. At last, We Chinese generally have more closer feeling to the buddism countries just as Thailand, Myanmar, Sirilanka, Butanand et al.

But one thing i will have to agree with and that is China did good thing for the Buddhist community. Whenever the Buddhist world fell in trouble, China was the first country which came to help. Even China sided with Myanmar when most of the countries were against Myanmar.

 

[Globenim]

Who cares what this senile former CIA puppet says about China? He doesnt represent or speak for anyone.