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Passport devaluation and public misery

We can't give this as an excuse. If this is so, whose responsibility is to control these practices?....Passport is treated as the most authentic document of person's identity and his association with a country...if it's so easy to get it in Pakistan by outsiders, I guess it's serious and reflects very badly on country's credibility.

its not a excuse but reality, A lot of Nadra workers in KPK are Pashtoos and holds sympathy towards Afghans and provide help to get CNIC and Passports ,without proper investigation ..
 
Here Pak, Nigerian, CHina, Bangladesh, Senegal passports are viewed in most negative light.
 
The thing is that you need your behind cracked open. the peanut size of your brain does not have the capacity to think.

You think that a country which was full of foreign assets like nawaz sharif zardari and what not can be fixed in a blink of an eye? This will take atleast another decade to get things better. actually i have already got a warning from some moderator on here so I can't say more in your praise. The simple truth is morons like you need to be sorted out

What a joke!

Nobody is saying that it won't take time.
Nobody is saying that it can be fixed in a blink of an eye.
Nobody is saying that Nawaz/Maryam and Zardari aren't foreign assets.

What I am saying is ---

What was our intel doing allowing foreign assets to rule?
Why are feet being dragged in the dispensation of justice against these foreign assets?
What is stopping IK from picking better ministers (is Fawad Ch going to revolutionize science and tech? is Firdous f***ing Awan the face you have chosen for your government)?
Why is Buzdar CM of Punjab?! I have dozens of friends serving in the civil service who were excited about PTI but have found the same level of BS political interference in appointments, postings, etc.
Why are Islamabad and Lahore turning into a dump?
Why destroy the traditions of an Army and an institutions rules just to keep the person who helped you get into power in his own seat of power (after opposing exactly such moves and rightly describing them as institution-harming earlier)?!

You are one of those morons who equate legitimate criticism with shortsightedness. Any sane person understands that the destruction caused by previous civilian and military leaders will take at least a decade to fix --- just as you said; what no sane person can understand is why IK isn't at least making the right decisions and postings in the HERE and NOW to achieve the change he wants within the decade?!
 
Not a big deal as inwards tourism is on the up.

Yes.
Maybe it was/is a blessing in disguise that Pakistani passport is not so easy to get a visa on: Think of the tons of foreign exchange saved over the decades and also the boost to the local tourism market, which is more and more leading to creating jobs in Pakistan. In my last trip to Pakistan, I was almost shocked to see the world class motorways, long distance travel, air, and bus travel vessels leaving and arriving on time. Professional quality services. And a general, palpable awareness that tourism is good for Pakistan, which it is.

Indeed, it is PM Advisor Zulfi Bukhari's repeated argument: Focus and develop domestic tourism first before worrying a lot about foreign tourists. And he's right!

As for the value of the Pakistani passport. It is what it is. But also don't forget that hundreds of thousands of Pakistanis do come to and go out of Pakistan every year and maybe it's better for now that those who do go out are for employment than those who skip the various Switzerlands right inside Pakistan to go to Switzerland and spend tens of thousands of Pakistani foreign exchange!

Oh, I would never live in most African, Middle Eastern, South East Asian, or South American countries over Pakistan, simply because Pakistan is far more beautiful than those countries, has great food, cultural sites, and a hospitality which is unmatched in the world. The climate of Pakistan allows, if one can afford to, a lifestyle where one could winter out in the balmy Karachi winters, shoulder seasons in central Pakistan, and summer in the northern mountains. The best weather EVERY AROUND! Ask how many Americans would love to stay in Miami in winter and be in, say, northern Michigan in summer! I have met quite a few of those lucky ones.

I know I am partial but then Eva Zubeck also agrees with me on this! ;)

 
Passport comes later, first comes you. I traveled many years on Pak passport, never face any problem. Talk nicely and dress little stylish. First impression is your look.
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Not really just the looks. Althougj u can try. Doesn't matter what j wear , they ask me questions. I have a few stories to share. Invkjskng one Indian security guy asking me if my UK card was expired ( it was issued the same year but I was sentimental and couldn't focus ). He was just saying shitty things and also other tucchay as we calm.in Urdu where shouting at me as my windows surface book took few seconds to turn on. .this was a Dubai airport.
I have huge beard and I am big too. They think they have a chance to get promoted when they see me ')
Now.i have British passport and Dubai airport was totally.different. No questions and totally.diffdrent way of dealing.

Khair ... Sometimes being Pakistani sucks , in international sphere. But mostly it's good.
 
Passport comes later, first comes you. I traveled many years on Pak passport, never face any problem. Talk nicely and dress little stylish. First impression is your look.
You make a good point about impression, but I would disagree because passport does come first in a way because the requirement to get visa (and the amount of documents or proof you need to show) is based on your passport, people from different countries may have different requirement to meet to get visa for some places, the individual only goes to the airport to travel once visa is approved
 
I used to have Pakistani passport.went around the world.EU,America,China ,Japan etc never had a problem.

Now I have a Japanese passport and going to China sucks big time.

It all come down to how you behave.

Every passport have it's pros and cons.

Japanese passport is most powerful but still sucks.
 
I used to have Pakistani passport.went around the world.EU,America,China ,Japan etc never had a problem.

Now I have a Japanese passport and going to China sucks big time.

It all come down to how you behave.

Every passport have it's pros and cons.

Japanese passport is most powerful but still sucks.

When Chinese see Japanese passport, there mind goes back and stuck in World war 2 Japenese atrocities. Something similar to Pakistani visit India and land on Dehli airport.
 
Where are you getting tomatoes for Rs. 80 per Kg. These are around 150-180 Rs. per Kg.
Apples are above Rs. 200 per Kg.



Kindly add Charsi IK too.


no really..

if any thing he add some respect.. when there was none.
 
And i suppose this is because Imran khan also lol

Everything is, before IK everything was all going great. Our Foreign reserves were in trillions, our passport was considered among most powerful ones and our foreign embassies and missions were all doing a splendid job. Its all that IK fault that we are here.

Generally, if you meet the criteria and provide evidence of everything, there shouldn't be too much visa trouble. But this is definitely a very sad state of affairs.

But don't criticize too much --- IK and Bajwa worshippers, who have created a new religion, will declare you a heretic and patwari. The sad thing is that PPP and PML-N are so, so, so bad that this PTI experiment was supposed to be ---if nothing else --- simply better. But even economy aside, it's just not delivering whether its garbage removal from the f***cking capital to law & order in Punjab.

You had me agreeing in the first paragraph but you surely revealed your true colors in the second one. Religion of IK and Bajwa??? We should instead follow religion of Bhuttos and Sharifs, two great dynasties of Pakistan. What a load of BS you wrote.


man our diplomacy need to work and bring back a little respect to our passport . imran khan should push these fat arse diplomats

Just yesterday I had the pleasure of visiting Pakistani embassy, now this embassy location was one of few that Mr.10% tried to sell off. Quite frankly like every other Pakistani living abroad, I despised visiting our embassies and mission; unhelpful staff, no proper waiting areas, long queues, above all Pakistanis being treated as garbage. But this time every thing was opposite of what I saw last time. An additional point, embassy was very clean and tidy. I visited our embassy after almost 2 years and for me it was a big change. There were also clear banners hanging to report any abuse or misconduct via an app or a website. I wont lie I was pleasantly surprised, most of the staff was courteous except for few Aholes.

People living in Pakistan never realise how difficult it is dealing with embassies and missions abroad, and I had to deal with them in over a dozen countries. But at least now I can see a bit of improvement, so to all the nay sayers go F yourself. For now we have a foreign office which is trying to fulfil its basic duties towards its citizens.
 
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You had me agreeing in the first paragraph but you surely revealed your true colors in the second one. Religion of IK and Bajwa??? We should instead follow religion of Bhuttos and Sharifs, two great dynasties of Pakistan. What a load of BS you wrote.

If you follow the thread, you'll notice that I rank the dynasties much lower than IK/Bajwa for obvious reasons; they are the absolute worst. They're filth.

But that doesn't mean we should start worshiping the current two --- the proof is in the pudding. Institutions are destroyed through extensions.
 

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