Pashto and Hindko in Peshawar, Charsadda

[Rig Vedic]

I am curious about what % of the populations of Peshawar and Charsadda speak Pashto fluently, and what % speak Hindko fluently.

I am interested in the mother tongue - for example someone should claim to speak Pashto or Hindko only if their grandmothers speak (or used to speak) it on a daily basis in the family kitchen.

 

[Luftwaffe]

why? collecting info for Intl, Why charsadda I shall alert agencies to follow your trail

No one'll give you, look it up in google.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Google need not be correct.

It is better to get it from the horse's mouth.

More authentic!

 

[Rig Vedic]

why? collecting info for Intl, Why charsadda I shall alert agencies to follow your trail

No one'll give you, look it up in google.

Hindko is a language that comes from Sanskrit, like Punjabi, Sindhi and many other Indian languages, all the way up to Assam in the East.

On the other hand Pashto is not an Indic language.

What I am interested is where the dividing line between Indic and non-Indic is.

The Indus river is not a barrier - generally the same language is spoken on both banks of a river.

It is probable that the original Pashto areas are the hilly regions, unlike Peshawar and Charsadda, which are in the plains.

 

[mjnaushad]

Hindko is mostly in Peshawar City.... While Pashto is in city, Surround around ooper neechey aagey peechey everywhere...... From Mardan to Charsadda to swat to kurram..... Its all pashto....


As far Hindko is sanskrit inspired or whatever why it have arabic rusm ul khat (way of writting) or whatever you guys call it.

 

[Rig Vedic]

If Peshawar city is Hindko speaking but the surrounding countryside is Pashto speaking, then that is an unusual situation.

Either one or the other group must have migrated into the area.

 

[bc040400065]

Hindko is a language that comes from Sanskrit, like Punjabi, Sindhi and many other Indian languages, all the way up to Assam in the East.

On the other hand Pashto is not an Indic language.

What I am interested is where the dividing line between Indic and non-Indic is.

The Indus river is not a barrier - generally the same language is spoken on both banks of a river.

It is probable that the original Pashto areas are the hilly regions, unlike Peshawar and Charsadda, which are in the plains.

Indus river actually is a divide between these two languages. peshawar pre partition was a hindko majority city but after that it is now turned into a pashto majority, but normaly the older parts of the city still have hindko residents. Charsadda i don't think has many hindko speakers. majority of hindko speakers are in Hazara division i.e east of indus river. But now a days pashto is every where and my guess is that rawalpindi and islamabad would be majority pashto in next few decades. And i thinks its good that we are getting more close and knowing each other more.

 

[bc040400065]

If Peshawar city is Hindko speaking but the surrounding countryside is Pashto speaking, then that is an unusual situation.

Either one or the other group must have migrated into the area.

But how you know about Hindko?? because normally many pakistanis not even know it. because where ever we go they just think we are speaking punjabi, not many differenciate between punjabi and hindko.

 

[Rig Vedic]

But how you know about Hindko?? because normally many pakistanis not even know it. because where ever we go they just think we are speaking punjabi, not many differenciate between punjabi and hindko.

It is quite well known - actor Shahrukh Khan is of Hindko background, I think. His father migrated to Delhi from Peshawar in 1947.

 

[bc040400065]

It is quite well known - actor Shahrukh Khan is of Hindko background, I think. His father migrated to Delhi from Peshawar in 1947.

I think he is from swat. another areas where majority was hindko speakers but now majority is pashton.

 

[Spring Onion]

seems you are looking for Aryan Dravidian thingy here loilzzz

 

[mjnaushad]

seems you are looking for Aryan Dravidian thingy here loilzzz

Do you know russian language came from Sanskrit aswell????

 

[TheStrantrunCurve]

There is no such thing as indic language, There is either Dravidian or Indo-Aryan language.
Indo-Aryan means Aryans from River Indus which makes up all the pakistani ethnic groups that is pushtoon, kashmiri, punajabi, Chitrali, Wakhi and sindh.

Bhartis are neither Aryans nor from the Indus so this term indo-Aryan only applies to Pakistanis.

The word India comes from this territory; and used for it exclusively. Ancient Indus Valley Civilization is based in Pakistan.

Sanskrit literature, mother of all Indo-European language was written about Indus river in Pakistan during Vedic civilization.
The heart of Vedic civilization lies in Pakistan. The earliest Vedic texts were composed
in Pakistan, Sanskrit was formalized and named in Pakistan.

Only later Vedas were composed in the Gangetic plains as some of the nomads moved into
northern part of modern India. A much later development than composition of
early Vedas in Pakistan.

You people are not the original speakers of Sanskrit language, Sanskrit was imposed on you people (the so-called North Indian) by Indo-Aryan meaning Aryans from Indus/Pakistan. Your (North Indian) original language was the same as South Indian language i.e. Dravidian language.

 

[Spring Onion]

Do you know russian language came from Sanskrit aswell????

yeh damn these ruskies copied it

 

[Rig Vedic]

There is no such thing as indic language, There is either Dravidian or Indo-Aryan language.
Indo-Aryan means Aryans from River Indus which makes up all the pakistani ethnic groups that is pushtoon, kashmiri, punajabi, Chitrali, Wakhi and sindh.

Bhartis are neither Aryans nor from the Indus so this term indo-Aryan only applies to Pakistanis.

The word India comes from this territory; and used for it exclusively. Ancient Indus Valley Civilization is based in Pakistan.

Sanskrit literature, mother of all Indo-European language was written about Indus river in Pakistan during Vedic civilization.
The heart of Vedic civilization lies in Pakistan. The earliest Vedic texts were composed
in Pakistan, Sanskrit was formalized and named in Pakistan.

Only later Vedas were composed in the Gangetic plains as some of the nomads moved into
northern part of modern India. A much later development than composition of
early Vedas in Pakistan.

You people are not the original speakers of Sanskrit language, Sanskrit was imposed on you people (the so-called North Indian) by Indo-Aryan meaning Aryans from Indus/Pakistan. Your (North Indian) original language was the same as South Indian language i.e. Dravidian language.

Firstly, why do you need to worry about the non-Islamic Dharmic civilizations. Jinnah, the father of Pakistan, was the grandson of a Gujarati Hindu. But he declared with pride that conversion to Islam meant conversion to a new civilization which was in conflict with the original civilization. Two-Nation Theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Furthermore, Pakistan was created as a Bengali majority nation, so it had nothing to do with the Indus valley per se.


Also, you are wrong, the earliest parts of the Rig Veda, the oldest Veda, was written the Ganga-Yamuna-Saraswati area. See A great book about the Great Book

Map of Vedic India (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedic_period):

Anyway, all that is off topic - there are plenty of other threads about such issues.