Parts of exploded AIM-120 AMRAAM (27 Feb) revealed

[Tejas Spokesman]

Are you sure its the complete wreckage of Pakistani AMRAAM?

Yes except the fuel storage section and its parts which were destroyed completely by the blast.

 

[Trango Towers]

Also the AMRAAM crashed into the village of Chassana in Mamankote tehsil of Reasi district in Jammu division of the state of Jammu and Kashmir.
One villager was injured by the resultant explosion. Others villagers immediately informed the nearest police station whose cops rushed to the spot and sent the injured man to hospital and secured the wreckage. Soon officials of a nearby IAF unit visited the spot and took the AIM-120 wreckage into custody.

And you guys hid this info since feb 2019.
Ummm

You mr .... are the complete wreckage

 

[Tejas Spokesman]

And you guys hid this info since feb 2019.
Ummm

You mr .... are the complete wreckage

It was revealed in local media after two days:

Recovery of AMRAAM remnants in Reasi. DGP rewards police party; EX VDC member, civilians
Dated : Mar 01, 2019


Jammu, March 01: On 27.02.2019 at about 1015 hours, a telephonic call was received from an Ex-VDC member that due to an explosion caused by an unidentified aerial projectile in village Mamankote Mallas, Tehsil Chassana one person viz Bagh Hussain S/o Ilam Din aged about 30 years R/o Mamankote, Reasi received grievous injuries. On this information, FIR No. 04/2019 u/s 3/5 Explosive Act, 307 RPC dated 27.02.2019 was registered at Police Station Chassana. Immediately a Police Party was rushed to the spot. After reaching the spot, the injured person was provided first aid by an accompanying pharmacist and with the help of locals, police shifted the victim to hospital for further treatment. SI Ali Imran, SHO P/S Chassana stayed back with his team for further investigation. He saw that impact of aerial projectile was so great that splinters were scattered around 50 to 100 mts. and a crater had formed and remnants of projectile were lying adjacent to the crater. Just adjacent to the crater a glass pile was lying. While minutely examining the site, SHO could make out something embedded in the said pile. As he fished it out, it was a body cover metal piece of the projectile weighing approx. 6/7 Kgs. AIM-120C-5, SERNO CC12497, 82577-3819625-104, MFR-15090 CONTRACT FA 8675-05-C-0070, GUIDED MISSILE AAV. Further search of markings on body cover metal piece (AIM-120C-5, SERNO CC12497, 82577-3819625-104, MFR-15090 CONTRACT FA 8675-05-C-0070, GUIDED MISSILE AAV) through open source information revealed that AIM-120C is an AMRAAM used by select category of Fighter planes including some used by Pakistan. Realizing the importance of the seizure, their digital pictures were immediately taken and shared with senior formations of the police which then was further shared with other agencies. Other components which were seized from the site were BATTERY 02 NO. RAYTHEON COMPANY, THERMAL BATTERY LI EAP-120115B, ONE SMALL PIECE BELONGING TO RAYTHEON COMPANY C/G, MISSILE, SECTION, MISSILE WPU-16/B; SOME SMALL PIECES OF PRINTED CIRCUIT BOARD (PCB) TOTAL IN NO. 7/8 PIECES, WARNING- HIGH VOLTAGE, NO. JU-44 & TB1; BATTERY TRANSMITTER = 01 PIECE, MADE IN THE USA, CERAMIC CAPACITOR + 4/5 PIECES, CECO, LLC, SCRAP PIECES WEIGHING APPROX. 4/8 KGS. ABOUT 90/100 PIECES.
The time of occurrence coincided with the time when there was an alert on account of reports of attempt of incursions made into the Indian Territory by fighter planes of neighbouring country in the twin districts of Poonch and Rajouri thereby clearly establishing that Pakistan had used F-16 Fighter Planes while attempting incursions inside Indian Territory. As expert opinion into the recovery was required. Hence, as per directions of senior officers the seized material were handed over to local military representatives for further investigation of the seized material.
Senior Police Officers took no time to realize the importance of valuable information evidence and ensured its collection and sharing at all appropriate levels.
Medical and paramedical assistance for the injured civilians has been arranged and the police party comprising the following:

1. Sub Inspector Ali Imran
2. HC Mohd. Iqbal
3. SgCt. Mohidin
4. SPO Bashir Ahmed
5. SPO Rash Pal Singh
6. SPO Rajinder Singh
have been given commendation and cash reward by the DGP for their prompt response to the incident and collection and seizure of relevant data and missile remnants which were shared with local army formations without any loss of time.
The civilian injured person namely Bagh Hussain S/o Ilam Din, the ex-VDC member and another civilian are also suitable rewarded for timely reporting in the case.

https://www.jkpnewsportal.in/newsdet.aspx?q=2123

 

[Prince Kassad]

final nail on the coffin,

this settle it

 

[Nasr]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1294850672462925824

Facts as they stand, One iaf MiG-21 shot down in air combat by Pakistan Air Force, indian pilot captured. One iaf helicopter shot down by indians themselves, while they were running around like headless chickens during the Air Battle. Another glaring fact, indian prime minister (Dodi) modi himself declared that had india possessed french Rafales, the outcome would have favored india.

So shut your trap and go crawl back from the rat-hole you came out of!!!!

 

[PakSword]

Yes except the fuel storage section and its parts which were destroyed completely by the blast.

So it's not the full wreckage.

And how did your esteemed reporter know it destructed itself rather that exploding in the close proximity of SU-30?

 

[Tejas Spokesman]

So it's not the full wreckage.

And how did your esteemed reporter know it destructed itself rather that exploding in the close proximity of SU-30?

Read post #18.

 

[PakSword]

final nail on the coffin,

this settle it

Sorry I am still unable to understand how does it settle anything.

 

[PakSword]

Read post #18.

Doesn't prove anything.

How do you know it destructed itself rather than exploding in the close proximity of SU-30.

 

[Tejas Spokesman]

Because then wreckage wont be within 50-100m but spread over many km.

Doesn't prove anything.

How do you know it destructed itself rather than exploding in the close proximity of SU-30.

 

[ziaulislam]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1294850672462925824

It’s beating a dead horse by now but but after 1.5 years Pakistan still has not provided any evidence of ever hitting yet alone downing any MKI. The question becomes, why if Pakistan claimed to hit an MKI they did not release any evidence?
Even F-16.net was forced to admit that their source was only Alan Warnes (a journalist with extremely extremely close ties to PAF for many years)
http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=57254&sid=4d6b2407eba5ac840c3211f2c80decfc

Even Alan Warnes admitted that his AFM article (Su-30 claim ) was entirely copied from PAF Kaiser Tufail blog.


So again, where is proof? It can’t be for “classified” reasons because even Americans often release proof of kills, or at the least the wreckage of kills claimed by America often is found. In Pakistan’s case not only have they not released any proof of anything but no wreckage has ever been found. We know the general area were the MKI was operating but no one found the wreckage, pilots or took video or photos.

So the MKI is 72’ in length, can hold up to 20,700lbs fuel, and can have a maximum take off weight of 76,000lbs but no wreckage? How does an aircraft that large just vanish? How would no one notice a fireball and smoke that would probably rise 500-1000+ feet? Is it a cover up? In that case why India did not cover up the MI-17 downing? India let hostile enemy civilians come up to the wreckage and even take photos. Ironically the MI-17 crashed only 250 metres outside an Indian paramilitary base, yet India could not and did not cover up the wreckage.

So to recap:

No HUD
No radar data
No satellite images of wreckage
No audio release of Indians acknowledging a downing
No identity of downed pilots
No tail number
No wreckage
No missing or dead fighter pilots
No smoke plumes or fireball
No photos of any kind
No videos
No witnesses
No acknowledgement from India (both officially or unofficially) of losing any MKI.

After 1.5 years india has still not accepted that it is lying despite a CLEAR count of f16s and CRYSTAL clear satellite images..

Pakistan claim is just a claim and will remain so. If india provides something else then a call sign we will be happy to say PAF screwed up(unlike indians who cant see CRYSTAL CLEAR satellite images
)

 

[baqai]

if that's COMPLETE debris than PAF must be using baby AMRAAMs or something

 

[PakSword]

Because then wreckage wont be within 50-100m but spread over many km.

So if an AMRAAM explodes near a fighter jet, or penetrates and then explodes, its wreckage will be spread over many kilometers? Is this what you are suggesting?

 

[PakSword]

Because then wreckage wont be within 50-100m but spread over many km.

I am not even questioning the impartiality of your claim that you have found the wreckage within 50-100 m.. or whether it's complete wreckage or whether it is AMRAAM wreckage in the first place..

 

[The Accountant]

where? Even after a week is a lot of time specially when u got the first peace within hours.

Furthermore, how does finding the pieces means MKI wasnt hit ?

The wreckage was actually published less than week after event by spokesperson but not many in media picked it up as their focus was on F-16 story.