Parachinar protest ends after successful talks with army chief

[!eon]

Well you get a salute from me. Trust me I am not a fan of Iranian mullahdom either but we must always keep a holistic and realisatic grip on what goes on. There is no saints or devils out there. Just we (Pakistan) are the saints.

No sir we aren't saints but every country has own interests. Till now, there is no accusation against Pakistan govt from Iranians for backing terror in Iran but Iranian govt is involved in terror activities inside Pakistan.
A certain group of Pakistani fellows are just blind followers of mullacracy with loyalties more than needed.

 

[nair]

Just we (Pakistan) are the saints.

 

[omegalamba7XL9]

COAS should ask them to stop recruitment of locals by Iranian agencies and report the Iranian agents to Pakistani authorities.
This would be more helpful for peace in Kurram than anything else.

Are you freaking kidding me dude? Are these people not your countrymen? How would you feel if someone died in your family and govt personal pay a visit and say hey report and agents in your house.
You can't and should never do that when people are suffering its counterproductive and alienates them. Instead of building the trust you are suggesting more lack of trust. You should be proud of them that they suffered for more than decade and still never uttered a word against Pakistan unlike our Saudi influenced brothers.

 

[!eon]

unlike our Saudi influenced brothers.

For me local pakistani Iranians and saudi influenced are same

 

[MAS9]

Unreasonable demands

 

[Ocean]

"New Delhi: For the first time in seven years, Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, has reportedly mentioned Kashmir, equating the situation in the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir with that of Yemen and Bahrain as requiring the support of “all Muslim nations”."

The last time that violence in the Indian state was explicitly brought up by Iranian leaders was in 2010, when not just the Iranian supreme leader, but also the country’s foreign ministry had raised questions about Kashmir.


In July and November of 2010, Khamenei raised the need for the Muslim community to support the “struggle” in Kashmir – and put it in the same category as Gaza and Afghanistan."

Now tell me last time your Arab masters - the House of Saud dare mention Kashmir?

https://thewire.in/151705/iran-khamenei-kashmir/

Kaptaan let us cut this arab vs iranian thing all the time. It is absolutely useless. Iran has no interest in showing support to kashmir as it would affect her ties with india. She is pretty isolated in terms of diplomatic ties and would not ruffle imdian feathers.

As compared to iran ,arabs have still spoken more about Kashmir , even though all of it is just lip service whether from arabs or Iranians, but arabs have still mentioned kashmir many times at ICC islamic countries council meetings.
Khamanei made once in a blue moon statement and then he clarified it too. Check out other running thread.
Another thing , quite a sum of money that gets poured into Indian occupied kashmir for freedom fight comes from saudi donors.

Iranians are also not our friends ,so an all time bickering of arab vs iran will take us nowhere. Even arab posters in this fourm might act racist against us but wont threaten us about war and stuff. But every single iranian poster insults pakistanis and constantly warns of repercussions , sending in new drones , launching surgical attacks, firing missiles and God knows what not. And all of that comes despite the fact that pakistani posters still show more composure towards iranians. Only alone on iranian drone shooting down incident iranians were threatening us of serious comsequences. So you send drones inside our territory , we shoot it down and again it is us who are going to be threatened?

I know you will repeat the drill in every thread but still i tried to put things in perspective. Rest is upto you. I believe i would build ties and put a mask of diplomacy before whosoever who could benefit my state and will milk them to the max. Enjoy your day.

 

[RoadRunner401]

This is sad that you shia members can stoop to this level of labeling anyone as terrorist and LeJ member who does not conform to Iranian point of view. There had been reports and Iranians have also accepted that Many Pakistanis have joined Iranian fight in Syria and got killed.

Being Someone from KPK/FATA region I take strong offence at cashing the miseries of my people of Parachinar by people like you from both sects

You guys can lick asses of Iranians and Saudis in some other thread. Do not cash blood of our people.

@Oscar

can you or mods clean these threads ? All i can see shia and anti shia propaganda sans any solid argument in all these threads.

Oh please, spare us all from you are, your patriotic B,S wolf in a sheep skin disguised is more like it , Sad part is senior member who claims to be journalist, defending terrorism, Somehow it's a crime punishable by death to fight the terrorist, is that what you are saying

Shia joining the Iranians to fight terrorist in Syria and Iraq are bad Pakistani Wahhabi terrorist sponsored by Saudis are good, but not mentioned

This is an international forum not spring onion (far from it) personal blog only way you can counter the argument is by running to the mods what kind of journalist are you!

As compared to iran ,arabs have still spoken more about Kashmir

Really Iranians and Turks have on numerous occasion supported Pakistan claim on Kashmir, sad part is, so-called neutral Pakistani which you claim to be, who are not Saudis are quoting Indian news sites to find refuge and making false claims of Arabs spoken in favor of Pakistan, go ahead then, post one simple link where any Arab leader have spoken in Pakistan favor on behalf of Kashmir

 

[Ocean]

Oh please, spare us all from you are, your patriotic B,S wolf in a sheep skin disguised is more like it , Sad part is senior member who claims to be journalist, defending terrorism, Somehow it's a crime punishable by death to fight the terrorist, is that what you are saying

Shia joining the Iranians to fight terrorist in Syria and Iraq are bad Pakistani Wahhabi terrorist sponsored by Saudis are good, but not mentioned

This is an international forum not spring onion (far from it) personal blog only way you can counter the argument is by running to the mods what kind of journalist are you!


Really Iranians and Turks have on numerous occasion supported Pakistan claim on Kashmir, sad part is, so-called neutral Pakistani which you claim to be, who are not Saudis are quoting Indian news sites to find refuge and making false claims of Arabs spoken in favor of Pakistan, go ahead then, post one simple link where any Arab leader have spoken in Pakistan favor on behalf of Kashmir

I am not neutral. I will see my states benefit above all. Dude you are so paranoid. You really have to go after every post and put your own words in others mouth. Firstly, noone whether Turks, iranians or arabs have supported pakistans claim. They dont need to. They have supported kashmiris freedom cause.
I dont know any individual arab state ever mentioned kashmir or not but i had talked about islamic countries council i have seen more statements form OIC though they hardly meant much. I can give more links from OIC supporting kashmir vs iran as Oic used to issue almost yearly statements on kashmir .But then that is not a versus thread and hardly matters. You are unnecessarily nitpicking. I honestly dont know which "fake" link you are refrring to? I didnt post any link earlier.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...on-jammu-and-kashmir/articleshow/36903869.cms

My point was it is not as though iran has really stood for kashmir. They have rarely spoken.
First time in seven years iran spoke for kashmir though he clarified his statement.

https://thewire.in/151705/iran-khamenei-kashmir/

And if retraction are lies from indian media then Good on khaminei

I do not know why you got so bent out of shape over my post which had nothing to do in siding with either arabs or iran but was based on how i have always seen statements in media. Look dude you have issues, you think in a specific way and you want everyone to think through your mind, which i am sorry is not gonna happen. I will see and analyze based on news reports and if you want to toss around wahabbi or whatever labels over that. Go ahead i could care less. I am not here to massage egos or pleasing others. Duh!

and no i am not neutral. I hope that will help you sleep better.

And this link could interest you too
http://www.milligazette.com/news/333-how-iran-saved-india-in-1994-kashmir-UN-voting

This is my last post on derailed topic. Thread is abt Parachinar and coas so back to that.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Lemme tell you little story. Long, long, long time (in my late teens) ago I was very poor. I mean penny poor. I had been kicked out of home so before university started I landed in the city - a stranger. I figured to get a job, save some money and buy a car while studying. And during holidays explore the world.

Anyways I had no place to stay and booked into a cheap bed & breakfast. Next morning I saw a fantastic two bedroomed bungalow in a posh area advertised in local paper. I had no money but thinking 2who dares wins" and with desperation biting my backside I rang the owner who turned out to be fellow Pak. He was a Punjabi from Faisalabad. So before I met him I cleaned me self up. Slapped on my one fancy kit I had and gave the guy spiel. By the time I finished he thought my dad was governor of KPK and I was working with international law firm and studying part time. He gave the keys there and then. No deposit with rent to be sorted out later. That evening he delivered new bed and even a small portable TV and "apna khana" cooked by his wife. Amazing stuff.

I got a part time job that did not pay well and I struggled to save money for the car so on the side I applied for housing benefit. By the time university started I got a fat cheque from the council for rent (which had aggregated) and as I had paid the rent from my part time job this money went into a car. I rented the other room to a university student and 'rented' my double bed to another university 'friend'. I was quids in all around. All the other university students could not figure out how afforded the car etc.

Anyway everything almost came crashing down one sunny morning. I got up and read the mail. It was a letter from the council who addrsssed to a 'Tanvir' who apprently had applied for rent on the same bungalow. I was like "what the hell"?

Soon enough the door bell rang and there was a lad about my age who said he was Tanvir and he had come to collect the mail. I figured what was happening. The owner from Faisalabad figuring that I had paid rent from part time job (we can't help being Pak*s) had decided to offer his place to his brothers son to claim rent on. As I was cornered I gave that guy hell. I almost chucked him out of the garden and told him never to come back again.

Ten minutes later the owner, Tanvir's distressed mum and dad along with son come knocking on door. The owner says to him "oh I thought you were a nice guy". Tanvir's mum says "my son is saint and who look what you did to him". I still remember the reply I gave and the whole lot shut up. I said if you go right now and ask my mum she will "emphatically reply I, her son am the the saint of all saints and sunshines where ever I go".

So yes. In this world that is full of devils only Pakistan is "saint".


Ps. And before some of you start pulling morals on me I was young, I was desperate and think what might have happened to me if had not got that place. I would have been homeless, slept under some rail bridge and got murdered by racists. What would you guys have done at PDF without me. I know you guys would have missed me lol !

These experiances made me a lifetime secular socialist. So with this thought I sign out folks.

 

[RoadRunner401]

I am not neutral. I will see my states benefit above all. Dude you are so paranoid. You really have to go after every post and put your own words in others mouth. Firstly, noone whether Turks, iranians or arabs have supported pakistans claim. They dont need to. They have supported kashmiris freedom cause.
I dont know any individual arab state ever mentioned kashmir or not but i had talked about islamic countries council i have seen more statements form OIC though they hardly meant much. I can give more links from OIC supporting kashmir vs iran as Oic used to issue almost yearly statements on kashmir .But then that is not a versus thread and hardly matters. You are unnecessarily nitpicking. I honestly dont know which "fake" link you are refrring to? I didnt post any link earlier.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...on-jammu-and-kashmir/articleshow/36903869.cms

My point was it is not as though iran has really stood for kashmir. They have rarely spoken.
First time in seven years iran spoke for kashmir though he clarified his statement.

https://thewire.in/151705/iran-khamenei-kashmir/

And if retraction are lies from indian media then Good on khaminei

I do not know why you got so bent out of shape over my post which had nothing to do in siding with either arabs or iran but was based on how i have always seen statements in media. Look dude you have issues, you think in a specific way and you want everyone to think through your mind, which i am sorry is not gonna happen. I will see and analyze based on news reports and if you want to toss around wahabbi or whatever labels over that. Go ahead i could care less. I am not here to massage egos or pleasing others. Duh!

and no i am not neutral. I hope that will help you sleep better.

And this link could interest you too
http://www.milligazette.com/news/333-how-iran-saved-india-in-1994-kashmir-UN-voting

This is my last post on derailed topic. Thread is abt Parachinar and coas so back to that.

Question was very simple and only required a simple answer not rest of the gibberish, which is totally irrelevant and only meant to cause confusion and therefore its ignored, oh, by the way, if you wanted to stay on the topic then, you should have stayed on the topic, now where were we

You said

As compared to Iran ,arabs have still spoken more about Kashmir

I asked
Go ahead and prove your claim, which I knew you can't because you were making it up

and you answered

I dont know any individual arab state ever mentioned kashmir

Iranians speaking in Favor of Pakistan which you are denying and using Indian websites as to prove your point and giving credit to Arabs for something they have never done shows how neutral you are

Thank you, See how simple the answer needed was , and now back to topic.

 

[nair]

Lemme tell you little story. Long, long, long time (in my late teens) ago I was very poor. I mean penny poor. I had been kicked out of home so before university started I landed in the city - a stranger. I figured to get a job, save some money and buy a car while studying. And during holidays explore the world.

Anyways I had no place to stay and booked into a cheap bed & breakfast. Next morning I saw a fantastic two bedroomed bungalow in a posh area advertised in local paper. I had no money but thinking 2who dares wins" and with desperation biting my backside I rang the owner who turned out to be fellow Pak. He was a Punjabi from Faisalabad. So before I met him I cleaned me self up. Slapped on my one fancy kit I had and gave the guy spiel. By the time I finished he thought my dad was governor of KPK and I was working with international law firm and studying part time. He gave the keys there and then. No deposit with rent to be sorted out later. That evening he delivered new bed and even a small portable TV and "apna khana" cooked by his wife. Amazing stuff.

I got a part time job that did not pay well and I struggled to save money for the car so on the side I applied for housing benefit. By the time university started I got a fat cheque from the council for rent (which had aggregated) and as I had paid the rent from my part time job this money went into a car. I rented the other room to a university student and 'rented' my double bed to another university 'friend'. I was quids in all around. All the other university students could not figure out how afforded the car etc.

Anyway everything almost came crashing down one sunny morning. I got up and read the mail. It was a letter from the council who addrsssed to a 'Tanvir' who apprently had applied for rent on the same bungalow. I was like "what the hell"?

Soon enough the door bell rang and there was a lad about my age who said he was Tanvir and he had come to collect the mail. I figured what was happening. The owner from Faisalabad figuring that I had paid rent from part time job (we can't help being Pak*s) had decided to offer his place to his brothers son to claim rent on. As I was cornered I gave that guy hell. I almost chucked him out of the garden and told him never to come back again.

Ten minutes later the owner, Tanvir's distressed mum and dad along with son come knocking on door. The owner says to him "oh I thought you were a nice guy". Tanvir's mum says "my son is saint and who look what you did to him". I still remember the reply I gave and the whole lot shut up. I said if you go right now and ask my mum she will "emphatically reply I, her son am the the saint of all saints and sunshines where ever I go".

So yes. In this world that is full of devils only Pakistan is "saint".


Ps. And before some of you start pulling morals on me I was young, I was desperate and think what might have happened to me if had not got that place. I would have been homeless, slept under some rail bridge and got murdered by racists. What would you guys have done at PDF without me. I know you guys would have missed me lol !

These experiances made me a lifetime secular socialist. So with this thought I sign out folks.

Thank you for such a detail reply (for couple of thumps up).... I guess you articulated your reply in a beautiful manner....... Well done....

 

[Ocean]

I asked
Go ahead and prove your claim, which I knew you can't because you were making it up

and you answered

What claim i faked? Go back to my first post and see i had mentioned ICC which i mistakenly used for OIC , Ithought it is islamic countries council, but it is organization for islamic countries. It is made up of arab countries majorly with few non arab states. So where i had faked a claim? Oics administrative centre is Jeddah based. And secretary general is an arab

And the typical dialogue "I knew you cant prove you were making it up whatever all that " , seriously get a life how much you could clutch on to straws to prove someone wrong?

I have not even used any site to deny any iranian statement. Indian site link i shared in last post infact was talking about khameinei speaking for kashmir, and last link about iran blocking kashmir resoluiton is from miligazette a pakistani site.

Anyways, you like running in circles. Btw there is no denying arabs have never given a firm position on kashmir.

 

[Kabira]

demands from COAS

I hope COAS have some local FATA expert alongside him because many demands will go through his head. Why they are demanding special treatment of turi tribe? Are they the only ones in Khurram Agency? What about other tribes? And why they don't trust FC from other agencies?

FC isn't trained for protests. But I doubt Parachinar crowd was going to attack FC soldiers? Firing at protesters doesn't make sense.

 

[M. Sarmad]

FC is not involved in killing. So far no confirmation as many sources as I checked with. As soon as there is some proof of the allegations I will post that.

By Dilawar Hussain | PARACHINAR, PAKISTAN

The crowd, already angry over what they see as the failure of authorities to ensure security, has become more enraged by the shooting dead of three protesters by police trying to keep order.

Authorities have not confirmed that three protesters were killed, saying only they were investigating.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pakistan-protests-idUSKBN19K1SD

 

[Kabira]

https://twitter.com/x/status/880787682976288768