Featured Pantsir M CIWS world's newest and most powerful CIWS makes debut on Karakurt class battleship

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantsir-M

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

@Ultima Thule @Yaseen1 @Philip the Arab @vostok @zzzz @mike2000 is back @KAL-EL @zectech

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

Looks like a FORMIDABLE air defence system.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantsir-M

It's nice....but it ain't no "battleship".

It's a corvette.

 

[Yaseen1]

russian military power is rising everyday

 

[21st Century Vampire]

The frigate Marshal Shaposhnikov will be probably upgraded with the Pantsir-M too


https://www.navalnews.com/naval-new...-shaposhnikov-may-be-upgraded-with-pantsir-m/

 

[Armchair]

@Tank131 thought this might be something you'd like.

 

[Zarvan]

I seriously wonder whether these ships should be called corvettes they are more like powerful Missile Boats

 

[Tank131]

@Tank131 thought this might be something you'd like.

You know just what interests me! Lol! This is such a perfect system for PN and would be ideal for MILGEM (In place of Gokdeniz), and a cheap F-22P MLU. The F-22P is where it would really shine, especially replacing Type 730 and the FM90. It would triple the number of guns and SAMs carried and the missile has 5km further range.

It's nice....but it ain't no "battleship".

It's a corvette.

Yes, but that corvette is more potent than any ship in PN currently.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

You know just what interests me! Lol! This is such a perfect system for PN and would be ideal for MILGEM (In place of Gokdeniz), and a cheap F-22P MLU. The F-22P is where it would really shine, especially replacing Type 730 and the FM90. It would triple the number of guns and SAMs carried and the missile has 5km further range.


Yes, but that corvette is more potent than any ship in PN currently.

Agreed.

Battleships are defunct anyway.

 

[Kamil_baku]

You know just what interests me! Lol! This is such a perfect system for PN and would be ideal for MILGEM (In place of Gokdeniz), and a cheap F-22P MLU. The F-22P is where it would really shine, especially replacing Type 730 and the FM90. It would triple the number of guns and SAMs carried and the missile has 5km further range.


Yes, but that corvette is more potent than any ship in PN currently.

do you understand that 35mm able to shoot far away that 30mm? also, air burst means you got more bullets to shoot other missiles, saturation attak and so on

 

[Armchair]

You know just what interests me! Lol! This is such a perfect system for PN and would be ideal for MILGEM (In place of Gokdeniz), and a cheap F-22P MLU. The F-22P is where it would really shine, especially replacing Type 730 and the FM90. It would triple the number of guns and SAMs carried and the missile has 5km further range.


Yes, but that corvette is more potent than any ship in PN currently.

We may not always agree but at least we understand and respect each other's viewpoints, and know what each of us thinks and likes.

I think would be an easy upgrade for a number of ships but not sure how good this system will work. Sometimes Russians sell you borochures and lemons.

 

[Tank131]

I think would be an easy upgrade for a number of ships but not sure how good this system will work. Sometimes Russians sell you borochures and lemons.

Well that is why you ask for it to be tested. Put it through its paces as part of the process, before you buy it. The system would need a thorough review prior to acquisition. That being said, while many russian systems may end up being lemons their SAMs and air defense systems so far have proven to be reasonably good. Even the venerable S200 in syria was able to shoot down a number of allied a2g weapons. That being said, a modern system like Panstir-M or possibly TOR-2MKM is warranted for Pakistan. Especially for difficult to upgrade and difficult to replace ships such as F-22P.

 

[Armchair]

Well that is why you ask for it to be tested. Put it through its paces as part of the process, before you buy it. The system would need a thorough review prior to acquisition. That being said, while many russian systems may end up being lemons their SAMs and air defense systems so far have proven to be reasonably good. Even the venerable S200 in syria was able to shoot down a number of allied a2g weapons. That being said, a modern system like Panstir-M or possibly TOR-2MKM is warranted for Pakistan. Especially for difficult to upgrade and difficult to replace ships such as F-22P.

Sure, things can be tested. Sorry for the late reply, just busy with stuff, covid 19 vacation is over for me.

 

[Timur]

karakurt? whom does belong this ship?