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Palestinians must make peace or shut up, Saudi crown prince said to tell US Jews

Finally a reasonable shut up call..Palestinians have gotten immensely rich especially their leadership with unaccounted money over last 70 decades..its time to build some accountability and peace!
how can there be peace when jews keep occupying and grabing land? i am not saying muslims or plastinians are angels but no one can disagree that they are being opressed!
 
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Rwwwrrrrr! If you had an ounce of integrity, you wouldn't leach on the success of another country (TURKEY) and insult one that has done more for the cause of the Palestinians than anyone on this earth, least of all that country you suckle up to and certainly not the one you wear its flags. So grow up, do some self-perspective and get back in the spot where you belong. Understood?

Yes, Turkey is a success story and do you know why? It is because they don't worship mafia god father as you do.


and now you blame your Zionist fat president on us while you do nothing to impeach her from throne. what a hypocrisy. Show me how many useless Bengali lost their lives defending Palestine, because as far as I know, the only Bengali lost their lives in a war were serving under the boots of their white zionist masters. The upcoming bengali worriers will seemingly fight under the boot of their Turk masters. That means a centrey of slavery without acheving any good for Bengladish or Muslim. I know protecting the rohingyas is way greater than you Bengali, I would take that away and I would be more satisfied if you would serve the environment and stooped chewing your disgusting paan (tanbul) and spitting in public.

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Like most Arabs of today you are ill informed and too lazy to search for the truth. Hence humiliation at the hands of your Zionazi masters is your destiny.
 
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how can there be peace when jews keep occupying and grabing land? i am not saying muslims or plastinians are angels but no one can disagree that they are being opressed!

How can there be peace when Palestinians keep perpetuating terrorist attacks and rockets in Israel?
War and occupation is black and white..the weaker end has to compromise or die..
 
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How can there be peace when Palestinians keep perpetuating terrorist attacks and rockets in Israel?
War and occupation is black and white..the weaker end has to compromise or die..
lols dude you are a sane poster please be unbiased! yes they fire missles at israel israel does the same! so there can never be peace they just want to have freedom and basic human rights is it too much to ask? israel keeps grabbing their land what are they suppose to do throw roses at israelis! no sir they will revolt and fight and thats what they are doing and they will keep dying
 
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lols dude you are a sane poster please be unbiased! yes they fire missles at israel israel does the same! so there can never be peace they just want to have freedom and basic human rights is it too much to ask? israel keeps grabbing their land what are they suppose to do throw roses at israelis! no sir they will revolt and fight and thats what they are doing and they will keep dying

So when IDF men shoot Palestinian civilians they are supposed to take it?
 
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So when IDF men shoot Palestinian civilians they are supposed to take it?
they have been taking bullets for last 70 years they will keep fightng and not bow down to zionists!!

if it was some struggle by non muslims western media would have potreyed them as heroes and resilient fighters fightng against oppression but its is a muslims muslims struggle and world doesnt care it just wants them to pack their bags and leave the land for israeli!

peacefully leave your houses you unarmed plastininas or we will fire rockets on you! how peaceful!
 
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You have to wonder what was the purpose of meeting with the Jewish whatevers in the US? Doesn't sound like it was something that would've been requested by his staff, but rather something the White House decided to put into his itinerary and he was forced to go through it. Still, he should use his words a lot more carefully considering that two-state solution that he's allegedly saying they should accept or shut up is nothing like what a two state solution should be. It's a glorified example of the status quo and the Palestinians should never accept anything of the sort.

You think so? If so they're trying to coerce the Saudi's into sidestepping the peace process and normalizing with Israel. I don't believe that it is the case, he probably requested to meet with them as he thinks those are influential figures who make sure they lobby for continued sanctions on Iran or something.
 
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Israel's Channel 10 news :lol:

Saying what they wished to hear.. but the surprise is how many Zionist propaganda swallowers are out there..!!!



MBS: Palestinians should 'accept Trump proposals or shut up'
Saudi crown prince criticises Palestinian leadership, says must accept what US offers or stop complaining, report says.

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MBS met leaders from Jewish organisations during his tour of the US in March [File: Charles Platiau/Reuters]
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Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, often known as MBS, has told heads of US-based Jewish groups that the Palestinian leadership must accept conditions for peace put forward by the administration of US President Donald Trump, according to a report on Israeli media.

During a closed-door meeting last month in New York with the organisations' leaders, bin Salman harshly criticised Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, Channel 10 news reported on Sunday, citing an Israeli diplomatic wire and sources.

"In the last several decades the Palestinian leadership has missed one opportunity after the other and rejected all the peace proposals it was given," bin Salman reportedly said in a report published on Axios website by Barak Ravid, Channel 10's senior diplomatic correspondent.

"It is about time the Palestinians take the proposals and agree to come to the negotiations table or shut up and stop complaining."


Barak Ravid

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SCOOP: Saudi Crown Prince told Jewish leaders: Palestinians should take what the Trump administration offers or stop complaining - my story on @axios and @news10 https://www.axios.com/saudi-crown-prince-tells-jewish-leaders-palestinians-should-take-what-they-are-offered-or-stop-complaining-1525025098-e7f0faf8-4f3f-442c-8478-6737ddb5a553.html …

3:15 PM - Apr 29, 2018

Saudi Crown Prince: Palestinians should take what they are offered
Or stop complaining

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Trump recognised Jerusalem as the capital of Israel in December, a move that drew international criticism.

Palestinian leaders see East Jerusalem, which was militarily seized by Israel in 1967 and has been occupied since, as the capital of their future state.

Bin Salman reportedly pressured Abbas to accept the US framework for peace after Trump's recognition of Jerusalem.

However, the Palestinian leadership has boycotted the White House since Trump's announcement in December. Abbas said the US was no longer an "honest broker" in peace talks.

Mohammed bin Salman and Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, reportedly enjoy close relations. Kushner reached out to bin Salman for guidance on the region after Trump appointed him to the administration's team that would oversee negotiations between Palestinians and Israelis.

While bin Salman criticised Palestinian leadership, he further stated that peace negotiations between Israel and Palestine would need to move forward before Saudi Arabia and other Gulf Arab states would normalise relations with Israel.

Saudi officials have not commented on the reports.

SOURCE: AL JAZEERA NEWS

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018...ept-trump-proposals-shut-180430065228281.html

As for those guys who are bashing Mohammad Bin Salman, probably he has said the most sensible thing.

Palestine is a lost cause, because USA supports Israel.

Better for the Palestinians to make a compromise now.
"During a closed-door meeting last month in New York with the organisations' leaders, bin Salman harshly criticised Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, Channel 10 news reported on Sunday, citing an Israeli diplomatic wire and sources."

First, MBS met with US Jewish Leaders not Usraelis.. and then it is a Usraeli diplomatic source that leaked the saying !!!? Obvious propaganda..

First we need to teach the palestinians what the word "peace" means.
Give them back their land.. that is the best teaching of peace you can offer Palestinians.. and not only them , All Muslims of the world will praise you for that "teaching".. and don't ever talk about peace before that..

During the conquest of spain, Tariq bin zyad said " all the land is of Allah so, therefore its our right to conquer it".
Source please..

The only famous saying by Tariq Ibn Zayad was to his 10 000 troops when he was in Gibraltar (Jabal Tarik) in Spain before starting the invasion of Spain..

Tarik Bin Ziyad is one of the most admired heroes of the muslim world. He lead the muslim army to invade and conquer Spain. Islamic Spain was known as Andalusia with a feeling of romantic nostalgic fever in every muslim. It was in Andalusia where muslim genius for arts, sciences, architecture and civic sense flourished, at least 500 years ahead of rest of Europe at that time.


He told his troops who were to confront 100s of thousands of Spanish troops:

Tarik’s Address to His Soldiers, 711 CE

When Tarik had been informed of the approach of the enemy, he rose in the midst of his companions and, after having glorified God in the highest, he spoke to his soldiers thus:

“Oh my warriors, whither would you flee? Behind you is the sea, before you, the enemy. You have left now only the hope of your courage and your constancy. Remember that in this country you are more unfortunate than the orphan seated at the table of the avaricious master. Your enemy is before you, protected by an innumerable army; he has men in abundance, but vou, as your only aid, have your own swords, and, as your only chance for life, such chance as you can snatch from the hands of your enemy. If the absolute want to which you are reduced is prolonged ever so little, if you delay to seize immediate success, your good fortune will vanish, and your enemies, whom your very presence has filled with fear, will take courage. Put far from you the disgrace from which you flee in dreams, and attack this monarch who has left his strongly fortified city to meet you. Here is a splendid opportunity to defeat him, if you will consent to expose yourselves freelv to death. Do not believe that I desire to incite you to face dangers which I shall refuse to share with you. In the attack I myself will be in the fore, where the chance of life is always least.

“Remember that if you suffer a few moments in patience, you will afterward enjoy supreme delight. Do not imagine that your fate can be separated from mine, and rest assured that if you fall, I shall perish with you, or avenge you... The Commander of True Believers, Alwalid, son of Abdalmelik, has chosen you for this attack from among all his Arab warriors; and he promises that you shall become his comrades and shall hold the rank of kings in this country. Such is his confidence in your intrepidity. The one fruit which he desires to obtain from your bravery is that the word of God shall be exalted in this country, and that the true religion shall be established here. The spoils will belong to yourselves.

“Remember that I place myself in the front of this glorious charge which I exhort you to make. At the moment when the two armies meet hand to hand, you will see me, never doubt it, seeking out this Roderick, tyrant of his people, challenging him to combat, if God is willing. If I perish after this, I will have had at least the satisfaction of delivering you, and you will easily find among you an experienced hero, to whom you can confidently give the task of directing you. But should I fall before I reach to Roderick, redouble your ardor, force yourselves to the attack and achieve the conquest of this country, in depriving him of life. With him dead, his soldiers will no longer defy you.”

Tarek Bin Ziyad’s inspiring speech to the Muslim Army

The library of Cordova is referred to by Muslims as one of the treasures of modern history, unfortunately lost to a barbaric force bent on destruction. The Alhambra palace is a piece of architectural gem as much as a symbol of passion in literature.

The general in charge of the Muslim army was Tarek Bin Ziyad. The rock of Gibraltar was named after him (Jabal Tarek).

https://revivers.wordpress.com/2012/04/02/tarek-bin-ziyads-inspiring-speech-to-the-muslim-army/
 
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Source:
Israel's Channel 10 news :lol:

Saying what they wished to hear.. but the surprise is how many Zionist propaganda swallowers are out there..!!!




"During a closed-door meeting last month in New York with the organisations' leaders, bin Salman harshly criticised Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, Channel 10 news reported on Sunday, citing an Israeli diplomatic wire and sources."

First, MBS met with US Jewish Leaders not Usraelis.. and then it is a Usraeli diplomatic source that leaked the saying !!!? Obvious propaganda..


Give them back their land.. that is the best teaching of peace you can offer Palestinians.. and not only them , All Muslims of the world will praise you for that "teaching".. and don't ever talk about peace before that..


Source please..

The only famous saying by Tariq Ibn Zayad was to his 10 000 troops when he was in Gibraltar (Jabal Rareq) in Spain before starting the invasion of Spain..

He told his troops who were to confront 100s of thousands of Spanish troops:

Tarik’s Address to His Soldiers, 711 CE

When Tarik had been informed of the approach of the enemy, he rose in the midst of his companions and, after having glorified God in the highest, he spoke to his soldiers thus:

“Oh my warriors, whither would you flee? Behind you is the sea, before you, the enemy. You have left now only the hope of your courage and your constancy. Remember that in this country you are more unfortunate than the orphan seated at the table of the avaricious master. Your enemy is before you, protected by an innumerable army; he has men in abundance, but vou, as your only aid, have your own swords, and, as your only chance for life, such chance as you can snatch from the hands of your enemy. If the absolute want to which you are reduced is prolonged ever so little, if you delay to seize immediate success, your good fortune will vanish, and your enemies, whom your very presence has filled with fear, will take courage. Put far from you the disgrace from which you flee in dreams, and attack this monarch who has left his strongly fortified city to meet you. Here is a splendid opportunity to defeat him, if you will consent to expose yourselves freelv to death. Do not believe that I desire to incite you to face dangers which I shall refuse to share with you. In the attack I myself will be in the fore, where the chance of life is always least.

“Remember that if you suffer a few moments in patience, you will afterward enjoy supreme delight. Do not imagine that your fate can be separated from mine, and rest assured that if you fall, I shall perish with you, or avenge you. You have heard that in this country there are a large number of ravishingly beautiful Greek maidens, their graceful forms are draped in sumptuous gowns on which gleam pearls, coral, and purest gold, and they live in the palaces of royal kings. The Commander of True Believers, Alwalid, son of Abdalmelik, has chosen you for this attack from among all his Arab warriors; and he promises that you shall become his comrades and shall hold the rank of kings in this country. Such is his confidence in your intrepidity. The one fruit which he desires to obtain from your bravery is that the word of God shall be exalted in this country, and that the true religion shall be established here. The spoils will belong to yourselves.

“Remember that I place myself in the front of this glorious charge which I exhort you to make. At the moment when the two armies meet hand to hand, you will see me, never doubt it, seeking out this Roderick, tyrant of his people, challenging him to combat, if God is willing. If I perish after this, I will have had at least the satisfaction of delivering you, and you will easily find among you an experienced hero, to whom you can confidently give the task of directing you. But should I fall before I reach to Roderick, redouble your ardor, force yourselves to the attack and achieve the conquest of this country, in depriving him of life. With him dead, his soldiers will no longer defy you.”

Tarek Bin Ziyad’s inspiring speech to the Muslim Army


Tarik Bin Ziyad is one of the most admired heroes of the muslim world. He lead the muslim army to invade and conquer Spain. Islamic Spain was known as Andalusia with a feeling of romantic nostalgic fever in every muslim. It was in Andalusia where muslim genius for arts, sciences, architecture and civic sense flourished, at least 500 years ahead of rest of Europe at that time.

The library of Cordova is referred to by Muslims as one of the treasures of modern history, unfortunately lost to a barbaric force bent on destruction. The Alhambra palace is a piece of architectural gem as much as a symbol of passion in literature.

The general in charge of the Muslim army was Tarek Bin Ziyad. The rock of Gibraltar was named after him (Jabal Tarek).

https://revivers.wordpress.com/2012/04/02/tarek-bin-ziyads-inspiring-speech-to-the-muslim-army/
I am the first to reject Zionist propaganda.

But I do think the Palestinian cause is lost, because the Palestinians are not united themselves.

Secondly Israel is supported by USA. Nobody is willing to stand up to USA.
 
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I am the first to reject Zionist propaganda.

But I do think the Palestinian cause is lost, because the Palestinians are not united themselves.

Secondly Israel is supported by USA. Nobody is willing to stand up to USA.
You are right on most parts of it.. but I do not think that the Palestinian cause is lost.. the division you see is about Hamas handing over its weapons to the Palestinian legitimate authority.. because Hamas as such can not claim any authority as of now while being designated as a terrorist organization by the US..
Arabs are seeking a deal for Palestine through the US.. because they know that is the only channel that can put real pressure on Usrael.. knowing well in advance that previous US presidents have failed in that.. and thinking that Trump might be different in this regard.. it is a gamble, but better than any status quo.. we are seeing some unusual moves recently where the Palestinian Authority is studying a statehood transition.. something might be cooking already.. we''ll have to wait a bit before seeing the main dish..
 
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You are right on most parts of it.. but I do not think that the Palestinian cause is lost.. the division you see is about Hamas handing over its weapons to the Palestinian legitimate authority.. because Hamas as such can not claim any authority as of now while being designated as a terrorist organization by the US..
Arabs are seeking a deal for Palestine through the US.. because they know that is the only channel that can put real pressure on Usrael.. knowing well in advance that previous US presidents have failed in that.. and thinking that Trump might be different in this regard.. it is a gamble, but better than any status quo.. we are seeing some unusual moves recently where the Palestinian Authority is studying a statehood transition.. something might be cooking already.. we''ll have to wait a bit before seeing the main dish..
We can only hope for the best for the Palestinians.

Two state solution is the only solution to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.
 
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Yes, Turkey is a success story and do you know why? It is because they don't worship mafia god father as you do.

And how many decades did those same Turks you ride their backs worship the mafia godfather called Uncle Sam? How many decades did they not lift a finger against Israel in favor of the Palestinians? How many decades did they do business with the Israelis? How many decades did they conduct military exercises with those "Zionists" you're accusing others of? Did they ever actually fight the Israelis? And you have the lowly nerve to call the Saudis traitors? Let's not even get into Bangladesh for now since you ride the Turks more than your own country.

Now, know your place before insulting or labeling others. When you get the urge to spit senseless venom, go back to that page where I posted that simple Wiki content of all the assistance and help the Saudis have done for the Palestinians, then RESIST THE URGE before someone else puts you back in your place just like what happened here. Consider this a learning experience in humility.

You think so? If so they're trying to coerce the Saudi's into sidestepping the peace process and normalizing with Israel. I don't believe that it is the case, he probably requested to meet with them as he thinks those are influential figures who make sure they lobby for continued sanctions on Iran or something.

That actually doesn't make any sense. If he wanted continued sanctions on Iran or anything to do with Iran, he wouldn't be requesting it from the Jewish lobby. He can go straight to the orange baboon for that.

What they did was get him into that meeting to talk about Israel and the region and the Palestinian issue AND particularly investments.
 
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Nationalism is the way to Go.

Deal with it.

For you it should be much much easier

Isn't nationalism haram butt sahib ? It's true that Kashmir deserve a referendum. So let's have referendum in every states in the subcontinent. Fair enough ?
 
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Isn't nationalism haram butt sahib ? It's true that Kashmir deserve a referendum. So let's have referendum in every states in the subcontinent. Fair enough ?

Nationalism is not Haram for Pakistanis..... and i dont care for your typical fassadi tactics in Sub Continent.
 
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