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'palestinian' terrorist breaks into bedroom of 13yr old Israeli girl and stabs her to death

Terrorist climbs over security fence and stabs two Israelis;

He stabbed her while she was in bed. This is 'palestinian resistance'. This is Hamas, this is what they do. Stab teenage girls in their beds and are hailed as heroes in 'palestinian' society.




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13yr old Hillel Yafa Ariel

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Terrorist climbs over security fence and stabs two Israelis;

He stabbed her while she was in bed. This is 'palestinian resistance'. This is Hamas, this is what they do. Stab teenage girls in their beds and are hailed as heroes in 'palestinian' society.




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13yr old Hillel Yafa Ariel

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Why didn't you make a thread when Israel bombed thousands of innocent children in Gaza ? :pop: Stabbing children is a sick act but you guys started it in the first place by bombing Palestinian children :cry: . When you can kill their children they have all the right to do the same . :angry:
 
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Well this is absolutely wrong if one is slaughtering innocent kids than it doesn't mean you should do the same.
 
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Terrorist climbs over security fence and stabs two Israelis;

He stabbed her while she was in bed. This is 'palestinian resistance'. This is Hamas, this is what they do. Stab teenage girls in their beds and are hailed as heroes in 'palestinian' society.




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13yr old Hillel Yafa Ariel

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What is good for the goose is good for the gander
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I think you should be grateful for all the support palestinians get. Meanwhile when palestinian leadership can't get alone with each other, There are dozen other places that barely get any limelight. Many places from Africa to S.W Asia where muslims are being butchered in thousands, whole villages and towns erased, women raped, muslim men and children systemically gun downed. If it wasn't for all these organizations, there wouldn't be palestinian problem. It would be just state of Israel.

What support are you talking about? I'm not looking for support, I'm requesting Muslim groups/unions to not try exercising exclusivity over our cause. Which is usually done for their own personal reasons/benefit. And along with that, they seek to dictate the direction of our society. To give an example, imagine if Palestine was restored to it's original inhabitants tomorrow. How do you think the general vibe of the region would be? Would it be filled with joy? No, it would be filled with anxiousness, of how the Arab block(Egypt/UAE/Jordan/Saudi led) and Iranian led block would act towards us, what they will seek from us, and by what means they would achieve all that. Let alone Islamic council, and what they would seek out of Jerusalem.

I personally would prefer our state to have our own identity, with our own aspirations and views. I wouldn't want to be a center for Muslim nations, nor an extension of Iran, nor a playing card for Arab states. I would seek an independent secular state, that doesn't identify much with these other blocks in the region. Because their relations are achieved by coercion, intimidation, falsehood, etc....That's no healthy relationship, and until people change, my stance on what shapes a Palestinian future state is going to remain as it is.

And my point exactly, is Muslims don't help each other. They only make some noise around some conflicts where they seek benefit from. And actually, the African and Asian situation that you present, is very heavily emphasized among Muslim circles. Every Muslim now has heard of situation on Burma(assuming this is what you're referencing), but have they done anything? Have they established fair principles? What don't they also share sentiment with oppressed people of other backgrounds? It doesn't fit the justice model I seek, so I can't identify with it. But, even it's own model, is poorly executed and useless. So my disappoint with Muslim 'nation' concept is justified, as I had grown up believing they are unique people in the world that value good principles, but they aren't so unique after all.

And you're wrong, Palestinian cause is alive due to the will of our people that never gave in. We don't have any backing of any states surrounding us either. They all have normal relations with Israel.
 
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A perfect reason to bomb 100s of Palestinians .... Hell yeah :coffee:

But how come they know they were Palestinians , oh well since they r the bad guys who kill kids....

A VERY perfect reason, since Hamas encourages it and incites it along with the PA
How do they know he was Palestinian? Mainly because who else would stab her, and then they knew his identity.

That is just disgusting. That poor kid hope they catch the scums who killed her.

Israeilis forces probably killed hundreds of children but that doesn't give someone reason to kill children.
Hamas killed them, not Israel
If they hide behind them its their fault.

Meanwhile palestinian children under brutal israeli bombs:

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WRONG!
Those are Yazidi kids in Iraq after ISIS attack
Oh, look who started lying

I wonder, if you also cry for the 1000s of Palestinian killed by Israeli tanks and fighter jets.

I wonder, if I cut and paste the comments by 500 and others cheering terrorist in Syria

I wonder, if this murder took place on the lands stolen from Palestinians with guns bullets and missiles.

You fired those missiles into Palestinians home from 1000s of feet into air for self-defense, but I suppose this Palestinian who hasn't been proven guilty by courts is a Terrorist because he used a knife.

I wonder if Israelis were blockaded for years and denied the basic necessities of life on a daily basis, if they would behave any differently.
I don't like any child killed, but its Hamas's fault that it hides behind them, and their parents fault that they voted for Hamas as a government.

No one stole any land from the Palestinians, mainly because they are not really Palestinians, but just Jordanians, Egyptians, Saudis Iraqis and such, which started the war, not the Israelis
So you can keep crying

Into Palestinian TERRORISTS. Its called prevention, which is self defense, "Best defense is offense"

1. Area where scene took place: 'Kiryat Abba' illegal settlement, which is form of colonization in God's name, displacing the locals and reducing Palestinian land acre by acre. All the 'settlers' there, did not actually 'settle' with consent. The Israeli army used violence to evict locals, and threatens to kill them if they object or actively prevent construction of settlements. And all these settlers are illegal residents without permission of the state authority in the West Bank, only with permission of foreign occupying force.

2. We have to point out that it is a 'settlement', as it has everything to do with it. Palestinians are entitled to the right to evict illegal settlers and resist the occupying forces. Does not matter with knife, gun, or banana. Now what happened here is suspect attacked nearest settlers, first one being a 31 year old man:

http://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=772054

He should have stuck to that and not targeted younger girl, Palestinians don't support that. We support evicting them without killing them, or making them citizens of a Palestinian state. We also don't share Israeli methodology of killing children under premise of 'fighting terrorism', which is the story we are given every incident in the occupied West Bank where a Palestinian 13 or 12 year old girl is shot dead. Even though there should be no reason she should be at risk in her own territory. That's what is morally reprehensible. As for armed illegal settler religious fundamentalists, all there males 18 above are military targets, and every sane and reasonable person agrees with that. No one would accept a foreign invasion without local consent. If Arabs occupied parts of Europe by conquest, and transferred millions of civilians there without European locals consent, then that would be an occupation which would be violently resisted by the local European peoples. And that should be no different in the case of the Palestinians. Unless you're hypocritical of course, and if you're hypocritical, you're a non-subject that is respected only by like minded people.

3. These 'innocent' 'settlers' are dangerous, religious, bigots who believe they're entitled to Palestinian land as described in post 1 and 2. And they were the same people who murdered a Palestinian boy, forced him to drink gasoline and burned him alive afterwards:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_and_murder_of_Mohammed_Abu_Khdeir

4. Troll OP is disappointed that Hamas was broken by the decade old siege, nor was it's popularity declined. And hence tries to tie everything to Hamas. Even though it was individual in West Bank. We saw Hamas's conduct during the Israeli offensive on Gaza, it targeted Israeli forces/outposts on the border and released footage of that. It's a much moral arm than anything in Israel.

5. Not sure what 'PA media' OP is referencing either.

6. The sensible solution at this point is to evict all illegal colonies and formulate two state solution. If anybody here objects to that, then they aren't in favor of peace, and are directly contributing to more violence in the region.



Nobody here is happy about what happened, on contrary, pro-Israel crowd cheers in excitement when children are executed in Palestinian territory by armed 'settlers' or Israeli forces. And they claim it was 'defense against terrorism'. You can't reason with people who have monopoly on murder and justify it. Even when Israeli forces are targeted in West Bank(which is totally legal right and method of resistance), they will use certain terminology to demonize those who took such measures. Which shows they don't see a reason to hold a moral and fair position that will contribute to peace.

They also believe they're entitled to local inhabitant's land, by forceful means. You can't negotiate or reason with people coming to your land, evicting you because 'God chose them rather than the non-Jewish gentiles', and that he gives them right to this land. Of course this 'God', who doesn't exist, is their own imagination, and the only 'supernatural force' here working, is the military/terrorist strategy.

Israel's occupation will meet its end, because there are enough sensible people in the world, including Israeli's, that don't believe such a thing is sustainable. Not because Muslims claim so, actually I hate it when Muslims make such claims. You guys have never offered any serious support or help, all Muslims do is try to exercise ownership over Palestinian cause. When they don't do anything for it. And I don't appreciate that 'exclusivity' approach by some Muslims. Because it projects notion that Palestinian cause is an Islamic one, which isn't true. Anybody, of any background, including Christians can support this cause. It's a universal cause. That's how I as an Palestinian atheist views it too.

And don't get me wrong, I have no problem when Muslim individuals support Palestinian cause because of their moral standards. My only problem is when large Muslim groups, or leagues or unions, etc..., try to exercise exclusivity over the cause, as if they dictate the direction the Palestinian society will head, and also the aftermath of an Palestinian state. Which is also something I object to.

We decide where our people head, and our state is formed. It will not part of Arab league nor Islamic cooperation council, nor extension of Iran, or anything else for that matter. As I am not satisfied with the principles of these groups, who are still hypocritical, lack morals, and use religion as tool in their political agenda. I'd prefer a Palestinian state to be a secular one, with ties US, China, Russia, Latin America, certain nations in EU, etc....

"Area where scene took place: 'Kiryat Abba' illegal settlement, which is form of colonization in God's name, displacing the locals and reducing Palestinian land acre by acre. All the 'settlers' there, did not actually 'settle' with consent. The Israeli army used violence to evict locals, and threatens to kill them if they object or actively prevent construction of settlements. And all these settlers are illegal residents without permission of the state authority in the West Bank, only with permission of foreign occupying force."
Nope. this isn't an illegal settlement as
1. the Palestinians never owned it, but the Jordanians.
2. the Jordanians started a war against Israel in 1948 and lost, 1967 the Egyptians threatened to destroy Israel then Israel started a war, the Egyptians lied to the Jordanians that they were winning when they were not, and the Jordanians also joined the fighting, that's when we got this land.
So no, the Israelis were not using violence, but defense and then changed into offense, when the Jordanians captured Jerusalem from this same place. The rest was when the Israelis had to conquer the town, and its not on the Israeli authority to save those civilians, then we moved them away. Yes, they do have permission from the state authority.
There is no "illegal occupying force".

"2. We have to point out that it is a 'settlement', as it has everything to do with it. Palestinians are entitled to the right to evict illegal settlers and resist the occupying forces. Does not matter with knife, gun, or banana. Now what happened here is suspect attacked nearest settlers, first one being a 31 year old man:"
Again, false, as I said above, there are no Palestinians, never were and never controlled this land neither lived here as "Palestinians" So no.
And again, the first one was the 13 year old girl, which this coward terrorist scum stabbed while she was asleep.

"He should have stuck to that and not targeted younger girl, Palestinians don't support that. We support evicting them without killing them, or making them citizens of a Palestinian state. We also don't share Israeli methodology of killing children under premise of 'fighting terrorism', which is the story we are given every incident in the occupied West Bank where a Palestinian 13 or 12 year old girl is shot dead. Even though there should be no reason she should be at risk in her own territory. That's what is morally reprehensible. As for armed illegal settler religious fundamentalists, all there males 18 above are military targets, and every sane and reasonable person agrees with that. No one would accept a foreign invasion without local consent. If Arabs occupied parts of Europe by conquest, and transferred millions of civilians there without European locals consent, then that would be an occupation which would be violently resisted by the local European peoples. And that should be no different in the case of the Palestinians. Unless you're hypocritical of course, and if you're hypocritical, you're a non-subject that is respected only by like minded people."
Palestinians DO support that, 74% of Gazan's support stabbing, the governor of Hebron went ahead and supported the family of the terrorist, there are huge paintings of "Shahids" all over the Palestinian territory. AKA murderers.
"Killing children" In Gaza, terrorists hide behind children
In the West Bank, children stab, as happened in this case and many other cases, throw molotovs and rocks that already killed many civilians.
13 year old "Palestinian" girl shot dead?
Like this case?
(Shooting not involved)
Again, no illegal settler.

"3. These 'innocent' 'settlers' are dangerous, religious, bigots who believe they're entitled to Palestinian land as described in post 1 and 2. And they were the same people who murdered a Palestinian boy, forced him to drink gasoline and burned him alive afterwards"
That's right, innocent settlers, they build houses, you kill them.
Religious just as the terrorists they are facing.
no one ever supported this, not Israelis and not anyone else. Unlike the Palestinian that name squares as the names of the terrorists. it was a response by some crazy idiots to the abducting of the 3 Israeli teenagers.

"4. Troll OP is disappointed that Hamas was broken by the decade old siege, nor was it's popularity declined. And hence tries to tie everything to Hamas. Even though it was individual in West Bank. We saw Hamas's conduct during the Israeli offensive on Gaza, it targeted Israeli forces/outposts on the border and released footage of that. It's a much moral arm than anything in Israel."
Of course its tied to Hamas, Hamas encourages stabbing, and the citizens of Gaza.
It targeted Israeli forces? like the 3 Israeli teenagers? or like Shaar HaNegev school bus attack, when they targeted a school bus with a Kornet? 4,564 rockets and mortars from Gaza into Israel in 2014, TARGETED INTO ISRAELI CITIES, oh, also, 1 out of every 6 rockets that are fired from Gaza land in Gaza, so don't blame all the deaths in Gaza on Israel.
 
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Hamas killed them, not Israel
If they hide behind them its their fault.


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Any person who tries to justify killing of children whatever way is just one disgusting and sick minded SOB. You are are mentally sick so go see a doctor you mental screw up.
 
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Any person who tries to justify killing of children whatever way is just one disgusting and sick minded SOB. You are are mentally sick so go see a doctor you mental screw up.
When did I justify any killing of Children?
I blame it on Hamas if its in Gaza, because Hamas hides behind children, and if its in the West Bank they either try to stab, either throw molotovs or rocks.
 
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When did I justify any killing of Children?
I blame it on Hamas if its in Gaza, because Hamas hides behind children, and if its in the West Bank they either try to stab, either throw molotovs or rocks.

You think this is not your justification? So hamas hides behind children so it justifies killing those children Like i said go see a doctor.
 
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You think this is not your justification? So hamas hides behind children so it justifies killing those children Like i said go see a doctor.
Oh so let them shoot our children?
I'll give you a scenario, the only weapon you have is a rocket launcher.
A terrorist holds a baby 200 meters away from you, and the terrorist have a pistol, he aims it on your family, what would you do?
 
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Meanwhile palestinian children under brutal israeli bombs:

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Its sad but it doesn't justify killing innocent Israeli civilians. You're not supposed to become like your enemy. Although its true Israel kills people with latest jets and tanks which is considered self defence, weak Palestinians kill with whatever they can get their hands on.
 
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I absolutely WON'T condemn this at all.
This is the reaction to the brutal violent extremist terrorist Israeli regime.
Deal with it.
Israel has shamelessly killed I don't know what number of innocent sweet hearts since it's illegitimate inception and now you want us to cry you a river when weak Palestinians reciprocate violence with violence ?
Huh.
 
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Oh so let them shoot our children?
I'll give you a scenario, the only weapon you have is a rocket launcher.
A terrorist holds a baby 200 meters away from you, and the terrorist have a pistol, he aims it on your family, what would you do?

No offense but that example is a load of crap. If there was ever such a scenario then please show any sort of documented proof in real life not fantasies.
 
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Wow they were so brave, they sure are the martial race.
 
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