Featured Palestinian president praises Pakistan over its refusal to recognise Israel

[Mamluk]

So it is politics in this world of politics, but don't use that for blanket statement against Arabs or to bring up Ottomans like they were God sent people. You have unrealistic view of Turks/Iranians as God-like peoples and refuse to call them out on anything but anything small with Arabs and there is huge fuss. Turkey and Iran can have ties with India though.

Turks or Iranians did not recall their ambassador to Pakistan as per Indian wishes, neither they bestowed their highest civilian honor on Modi. Iranis are no saints but even they wouldn't dare to offend us openly like that. We don't have unrealistic view of anyone, we see an enemy as enemy and a friend as friend. Everyone was happy when Scum Solemani died, so I don't know why you think they'd get away with something like what PA President did.

I understand it's the PA that's doing this, so the anger is directed at PA, not ordinary Palestinians.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Why do Pakistani need to follow Arab leaders ? As Muslim you should instead follow Allah and prophet Muhammad. It is very clear messages about brotherhood among Muslim from Quran and Hadith. The real believers have closeness in heart with other real believers. We know that not all Muslim are considered as real believer according to Quran and Hadith right ? If you dont have such feeling, you better do introspection and feel afraid that somehow Allah may have taken iman from your heart.

Than why Arabs are not backing us on Kashmir issue, can explain me that bro?

 

[Indos]

Than why Arabs are not backing us on Kashmir issue, can explain me that bro?

That is their leader decision who dont back Kashmir issue, their political choice should not affect you from supporting Palestinian cause.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

That is their leader decision who dont back Kashmir issue, their political choice should not affect you from supporting Palestinian cause.

And we are not also responsible to guard their Palestinian issue, they think Palestinian is the biggest and most important to Muslim countries

 

[Indos]

And we are not also responsible to guard their Palestinian issue, they think Palestinian is the biggest and most important to Muslim countries

Who do you mean with "they" ? Who think that Palestinian is the biggest and most important ? Your comment is not really clear here, please explain further.......

Well as Muslim we are responsible to fix many misfortune that currently happen throughout Muslim world. Palestinian, Rohingya, Syrian, Kashmir, Libyan, Uigyur, etc. There is verse in Quran saying that if two Muslim force are in battle to each other then we should make peace among them, if necessary we should fight the Muslim force who act injustice against the other Muslim force/group until both forces come to peace agreement. That is written in Quran and we have failed doing it in Syria and Libya. Turkey do quite a good part for Libya now and we should appreciate them.

 

[Falcon29]

Turks or Iranians did not recall their ambassador to Pakistan as per Indian wishes, neither they bestowed their highest civilian honor on Modi. Iranis are no saints but even they wouldn't dare to offend us openly like that. We don't have unrealistic view of anyone, we see an enemy as enemy and a friend as friend. Everyone was happy when Scum Solemani died, so I don't know why you think they'd get away with something like what PA President did.

I understand it's the PA that's doing this, so the anger is directed at PA, not ordinary Palestinians.

Who recalled which ambassador? Saudi's? Anyhow, your ties are historically deeper with Saudi Arabia and they helped you much more than these two nations you mention. But, I am totally in support of Pakistan's position to not allow MBS to view Pakistan as a lower country that needs to obey his orders in humiliating manner. That does not mean Iran has good intentions towards Pakistan or did anything for it. Turkey has been good to Pakistan and I am totally for good relations between you two. Just don't trash large and diverse ethnic group because of MBS and MBZ. We have lots of nations, many of them are poor and worse off than Pakistani's and anyone else. And we have guys here saying we are rich and racist sheikhs.

And we are not also responsible to guard their Palestinian issue, they think Palestinian is the biggest and most important to Muslim countries

This might by your misunderstanding, but sometimes Palestinian officials call for Palestine to be the focus again, it is in context of Arab world which has gone through severe civil strife over the past 10 years. That being said, of course it is not the most important issue. Media attention doesn't mean anything on the ground. However, I will say, we really are not putting any work to any issue we face. And I believe a lot of it is because we have no moral high ground or good intentions at the time being. We need to change as a people. And we also need to be more proactive if we want to be leaders and good examples to the world.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Who do you mean with "they" ? Who think that Palestinian is the biggest and most important ? Your comment is not really clear here, please explain further.......

Well as Muslim we are responsible to fix many misfortune that currently happen throughout Muslim world. Palestinian, Rohingya, Syrian, Kashmir, Libyan, Uigyur, etc. There is verse in Quran saying that if two Muslim force are in battle to each other then we should make peace among them, if necessary we should fight the Muslim force who act injustice against the other Muslim force/group until both forces come to peace agreement. That is written in Quran and we have failed doing it in Syria and Libya. Turkey do quite a good part for Libya now and we should appreciate them.

I mean ARAB

 

[Awan68]

Yep it's an important point. The Palestinian people aren't on the same page as the Palestinian Authority (the latter being noticeably pro-Indian). With the people, their outlook on Pakistan is generally ambivalent to in a few cases (at least among the religious types) aware and supportive. Me saying this will fall on deaf ears for sure, but it is what it is I guess, sadly.

Call it how it is mate, it is about Bait al Maqdis, Palestinian or any other people come secondary, point of reference, i.e the Rohingya and the Ughur.

 

[Mamluk]

Who recalled which ambassador? Saudi's?

We're talking about PA, not Saudi. Here, it's very old news by the way: https://www.dawn.com/news/1379781

 

[graphican]

Very childish analogy but if I was the soldier I would take that billion dollars start my own company and use and still have enough money to invest in Pakistan as well.

"So lets not use Pakistan ka abu Jinnah as an example for moral values. Read my other post in which I have exposed Jinnah inside out."

"Im in favor of giving up to a conflict that British empire wanted you to be in."

We don't have a "difference of opinions" but the "difference of principles".

• You believe in selling everything, even your motherland for money and visas, we don't.
• You believe in insulting Palestinian victims, we don't.
• You believe in abusing father of your Nation, we don't.
• You believe in earning a happy life sacrificing everything else, we don't.

سب سے گھاٹے میں وہ ہے جو آخرت کے بدلے دنیا ہی سے خوش ہو گیا. مولا علی عليه السلام
(The biggest loser is the one who for the sake of Duniya sold his Aakhrat and is happy with this trade - Mola Ali Elih-e-Salaam)

May Allah give you Hidayat.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Can you say the same for little kids in your family who are too weak to feed themselves, wash, wear or shower? Allah has created levels. You are lucky you didn't born to a Palestinian family living in captivity. Like everyone else, you didn't choose the post-code and parents where you should born... and you may well have born to a Palestinian or Kashmiri family and got raised with death dancing all around. Fear Allah and thank if you can that you are not part of the test Palestinians and Kashmiris are currently going through.

This is not just a test of Palestinians or Kashmiris but your and mine as well. It is just that Palestinians and Kashmiris are suffering their hardship now - and people who are silent on their suffering will suffer later. Everyone dies. Everyone is answerable including you - and I.

May Allah forgive us all and help us help the ones in need. Aamin.

And some Einsteins don't understand this simple math.
Israel tries to take hold of every country they come in contact with.
Pakistan already have the level of relations with Israel that are best possible with Israel.

 

[Ghessan]

Than why Arabs are not backing us on Kashmir issue, can explain me that bro?

can we compare Kashmir with recognizing Israel?
and how it is called going against Arabs as they too are recognizing?

 

[Hamza913]

We should also not recognise the Palestinian Authority as legitimate due to their conniving nature (for example, their cooperation with India). Zia was right about them and dealt with them properly during Black September.

Gaza, however, ought to be supported.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

can we compare Kashmir with recognizing Israel?
and how it is called going against Arabs as they too are recognizing?

its not about ARABs but Israel helped us in few times, and if Arabs recognizing Israel (their main enemy) why shouldn't we will do the same, tell me what is the problem?

 

[fitpOsitive]

Keep your praise and get lost Palestine we don't need their cookie crumbs -Pakistan the biggest benders in history when it comes to ummah can't believe so many of you getting happy from the most shallow gestures from Arabs. Everyone in it for themselves Pak needs to do the same- Turkey, Sudan, Jordan, Egypt, Azerbaijain, UAE , Bahrain even Iran before the revolution and even Qatar has had cultural/economic/sporting ties only falling short only of full diplomatic recognition .Palestinians have no issue with whats happening kashmir and continue to give awards to Modi and pull out diplomats from Pakistan to appease India where is the solidarity then ?
Israeli-Arab conflict is nothing to do with Pak why not recognise Israel if it makes one less enemy and security concern for Pak esp a very powerful and influential one like Israel ? and how the hell can you even help Palestine with a just two- solution if you don't include Israel and talk to both parties ?
Maybe time for a sensible foreign policy based on interests like most countries rather than one based on religion and emotion. I Don't care what you ummah cucks think Pakistan should put itself first- I said what I said.
Would have never imagined Pakistanis years ago even entertaining the thought in the first place -So glad Pakistanis are starting waking up to this fraud of brotherhood.

Israel is anyway no one's friend. Its exactly the case that you can save yourself only by not going near them. You see what Israelis do to US and EU? And you think you are smarter and more powerful than them? Better be unknown than a friend.
I also sometimes advocate that we should recognize Israel, but it's always in my mind that it can be a very dangerous move.
Very very dangerous one.