Palestine before 1948

[Battle of Kursk]

Again its a matter of opinion. historical records do suggest that Palestinians were forcibly removed from their lands. So, it is not that simple.

hmmm, we seem to have a bit of a short circuit here. I was not talking about what happened since 1948, but the years before it. Most of the Arab Palestinians immigrated into Israel from neighboring countries since the end of the 18th century. With many of them coming only after the Zionists stated to come to Israel and develop it's economy with their European wealth in the 19th century. So Palestinian Arabs cannot claim nativity.
What happened in 1948 is something different. Actually neutral (non Arab or Israeli) accounts claim the opposite, only on a few occasion were the Arabs forcefully displaced. Many fled from the terrors of war without ever seeing an Israeli soldier (something that has happened and is happening in wars all the time). But it's irrelevant to the matter at hand anyway, as we are discussing the periods leading up to that time anyway.

Its very hard to justify a claim on the basis of religion. A follower of judaisim in south east asia has a claim in the middle east.

This creates problems. This is the reason why religion is also used from other sides.

For instance, Pakistan was founded on religious basis, does that mean the non-muslims living before the creation of what is now Pakistan, have lesser rights?

Pakistani muslims would be wrong to claim the lands on the basis of religion.

One cannot find nativity on the basis of religion. If I accept Judaisim, would I automatically become eligible to claim the lands of the middle east?

I cannot agree with this.

Judaism, unlike Christianity Islam and many other religions is not missionary. It's actually pretty difficult to become a Jew. Moreover, during most of history the Jews were prosecuted and hated, leading to few ever converting. So unlike Islam and Christianity, though Judaism is a religion it is also a race, as most of the Jews share genetic similarity. Though it often does not show on outside appearance. Ashkenazi and Sefaradi Jews have proven genetic ties to the middle east.

Though in theory your premise that the converted Jew from where-ever has little claim of this land is correct, practically this is just not the case at hand.

No body is asking you to be neutral. Just expressing an argument.

Personally I do strive for as close to a neutral view, at least in my mind, for intellectual honesty. But I guess part of this is to admit that I will never really achieve this on some subjects.

 

[Silverblaze]

hmmm, we seem to have a bit of a short circuit here. I was not talking about what happened since 1948, but the years before it. Most of the Arab Palestinians immigrated into Israel from neighboring countries since the end of the 18th century. With many of them coming only after the Zionists stated to come to Israel and develop it's economy with their European wealth in the 19th century. So Palestinian Arabs cannot claim nativity.
What happened in 1948 is something different. Actually neutral (non Arab or Israeli) accounts claim the opposite, only on a few occasion were the Arabs forcefully displaced. Many fled from the terrors of war without ever seeing an Israeli soldier (something that has happened and is happening in wars all the time). But it's irrelevant to the matter at hand anyway, as we are discussing the periods leading up to that time anyway.

Again, some israeli scholars are now revealing that Arabs were treated very badly indeed.

I do not agree with the Palestinians on many issues, but I am of the opinion that what is happening to them is absolutely wrong which is my opinion.

Judaism, unlike Christianity Islam and many other religions is not missionary. It's actually pretty difficult to become a Jew. Moreover, during most of history the Jews were prosecuted and hated, leading to few ever converting. So unlike Islam and Christianity, though Judaism is a religion it is also a race, as most of the Jews share genetic similarity. Though it often does not show on outside appearance. Ashkenazi and Sefaradi Jews have proven genetic ties to the middle east.

This is the problem and I don't agree with it at all. Again this my opinion and I have no right to force anyone into believing it. But for academic discussions, this is important.

Some muslim Arabs from south america can also trace their roots back to what is now Israel.

The problem is of intolerance that I see more in Zionism and then in Palestinians as well.

Again it is my opinion that Israel feels that only by annihilating the Palestinians will it be a true state.

Judaism as a religion was under more duress in Christian Kingdoms.

Though in theory your premise that the converted Jew from where-ever has little claim of this land is correct, practically this is just not the case at hand.

Oh, there are instances of this.

Personally I do strive for as close to a neutral view, at least in my mind, for intellectual honesty. But I guess part of this is to admit that I will never really achieve this on some subjects.

No one is asking anyone to be neutral. But for academic discussions all arguments must be heard which in my experience Israelis do not allow.

Anyways, lets agree to disagree academically.

 

[ephone]

Talking about that really ignores the reality.

It is true that those lands are not jewish lands at all. U.K. got those Jews there. Jews took advantage of the situation after WWII and etc...

Well, now you have a country already called Israel there with millions of people. There are several wars fought for the past 60 years.

So what do you want to do to solve the problem???

I can only see a compromise to have two countries set up there based on the past and reality unless you want to have bloodshed keeping coming.

You cannot eradicate millions of jewish people there and you cannot eradicate millions of palestinians there either.

It is your destiny and you decide.

The video contains pictures of different Palestinian cities during the 1920's and 1930's, before the creation of the state of israel by the zionists in 1948.

The meaning of the word israel:

Israel was never a name of a land, at least in the Koran, it talked about a tribe of people that could be any faith. Secondly, the Koran was the first book to give Jacob the nickname Israel with its common etymology and means the "Captive of God".. in the Hebrew Torah and the arabic andalucian original one he is still being called "Yitzrael" or Yisrael with "Tzada" witch means, the one who defeated God according to the myth in the Torah

 

[Battle of Kursk]

@ephone

It is true that those lands are not jewish lands at all.

How is it true? even in the video you are quoting many of the pictures are of Jews. Jews lived in this land continuously for thousands of years. Jews are the only one's to have independent states in this land since 3000 years ago, not once but three times. The Arabs never had an independent state in Israel, it was always some conquered province.

U.K. got those Jews there. Jews took advantage of the situation after WWII and etc...

This is the opposite of what happened.

1. There was always a Jewish population in the holly land, even in the face of prosecutions.
2. The Jewish nationalism aka Zionism was created some 35 years before the British mandate over Israel.
3. The Jewish immigration Stated at 1882, while the mandate for UK over Israel was given at 1922. So the Jewish immigration clearly stated decades before UK rules over this land and while the Ottomans ruled here. First Aliyah- 1922, Second- 1904.
4. The UK have severely limited the number of Jewish immigrants and have tried to stop Jewish immigration: White book's 1-3. They have also severely limited the land that is legal for Jews to buy in Israel, amounting to less than 5%.
5. The UK has created a detention camp in in Cyprus and deported there immigrant Jews.
6. The UK has never done nothing to limit the large Arab immigration into Israel from neighboring lands in these same times.


First Aliyah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
British Mandate for Palestine (legal instrument) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Old Yishuv - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
White Paper of 1939 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Cyprus internment camps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[The SC]

You are right about the fact that some of the Jews who remained here became Muslim. The thing is that prior to the last couple of centuries this land was pretty barren and only had a small population. The majority of the Arabs now living in this land are descendants of immigrants from foreign Arab lands, just like the Jews are immigrants, of other land though. The immigrant Jews have historical and genetic ties to the land, but whether it's worth much when the ties are of over a thousand years old is a matter of opinion.


At the moment only a small fraction of both Jews and Muslims that live here can draw their heritage to living in this land before the immigration waves in the past few centuries.

You can read about the history of Jordan mainly and the Arab one, the very recent archaeology finds, and you will quickly forgive the 1000 years or much more the Jews joined there, the Arab history dates back as of today's science to between 60 000 and 100 000 years.

We do agree that the jews originated from somewhere else, so how can they claim the land as their own?

You ignorance of Islam is flagrant, I guess you never read Koran, Where it is written many times that Abraham was the first Muslim, and the biggest event in Islam the EED AL ADHA or the Big EED is the lamb sacrifice the Muslims offer every year to GOD to commemorate the sacrifice and true ISLAM of Ismael who obeyed his father and the order of GOD but was saved by a lamb that God have sent to replace him.

How could the philistines have been wiped out, when their origin is linked to all the Arab countries around them, if you know a bit of history you'll know that they were no frontiers and the Arabs have populated it for thousands of years before even the word Jew existed. So stop saying nonsense.

Actually the Arabs are not the Semitic ones, the Jews are, the word Arabic itself comprises the suffix Ar for Aryan.

 

[The SC]

1.There are various denominations in Judaism. A rough grouping can be as under:

a. Orthodox Judaism. Orthodox Jews believe that God gave Moses the whole Torah (Written and Oral) at Mount Sinai. Orthodox Jews believe that the Torah contains 613 mitzvot (commandments) that are binding upon Jews. Modern Orthodox Jews strictly observe halakhah (Jewish Law), but still integrate into modern society. Ultra-Orthodox Jews, which includes Chasidic Jews, strictly observe Jewish laws and do not integrate into modern society by dressing distinctively and living separately.
b. Conservative Judaism. Conservative Judaism maintains that the ideas in the Torah come from God, but were transmitted by humans and contain a human compontent. Conservative Judaism generally accepts the binding nature of halakhah (Jewish Law), but believes that the Law should adapt, absorbing aspects of the predominant culture while remaining true to Judaism's values.
c. Reform Judaism. Reform Judaism believes that the Torah was written by different human sources, rather than by God, and then later combined. While Reform Judaism does not accept the binding nature of halakhah (Jewish Law), the movement does retain much of the values and ethics of Judaism as well as some of the practices and culture.
d. Reconstructionist Judaism. Reconstructionists believe that Judaism is an "evolving religious civilization." In one way it is more liberal than Reform Judaism - the movement does not believe in a personified deity that is active in history and does not believe that God chose the Jewish people. In another way Reconstructionist Judaism is less liberal than Reform Judaism - Reconstructionists may observe Jewish Law, not because it is a binding Law from God, but because it is a valuable cultural remnant.
e. Humanistic Judaism. Humanistic Judaism, founded in 1963 in Detroit, Michigan by Rabbi Sherwin T. Wine, offers a nontheistic alternative in contemporary Jewish life. Humanistic Jews believe in creating a meaningful Jewish lifestyle free from supernatural authority, in achieving dignity and self-esteem, and in reviving the secular roots of Judaism. Humanistic Judaism embraces a human-centered philosophy that combines the celebration of Jewish culture and identity with adherence to humanistic values.

2.Then there are twelve tribes of Jews as follows: Reuben, Simeon, Judah, Issachar, Zebulun, Benjamin, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Ephraim and Manasseh.

3. The pressure they have been under throughout history have kept them united. Otherwise there are a lot of seeds of dissension in Judaism.Indeed some kinds believe they are destined to own no land / country, and as such are not happy with the creation of Israel.

Indeed there is some contempt between the two major groups of Judaism, the shefarads and the Hassidim and their meanings in Arabic is very funny, the first means the thieves and second means the jealous ones, probably from the first ones.
And you can add the ashkenaz, meaning the ones who complain, most probably because they didn't get their fair share from the too others.

 

[The SC]

@ephone



How is it true? even in the video you are quoting many of the pictures are of Jews. Jews lived in this land continuously for thousands of years. Jews are the only one's to have independent states in this land since 3000 years ago, not once but three times. The Arabs never had an independent state in Israel, it was always some conquered province.

What Israel are you talking about, there were Jewish tribes living amongst the Arabs all over Arabia including Palestine, they had tribal territories.
How can you say that the Arabs never had an independent state in Palestine while it belonged to them in the first place, and the Jews came from somewhere else to settle amongst them. Talk about contempt and ingratitude.

 

[ephone]

To be honest, the majority of the residents there are not jews at all. I do not say there were no jews there but quite few. It was with the british's help that tons of jews moved there to counter the arab's resistance.

In addition, are you telling me there was no country there for 3000 years? You must be kidding me.

I do not know what you call East Roman Empire and later Ottman Empire in your history books???

The land is not yours to start with though you occupy it now.

I am not Arabs or have any slight connections to muslim at all. However, most outsiders do not consider that land is your land at all except some extreme christian fundamentalists. I am not supporting those palestinian terrorist branches either.

However, U.N. has already favored you when it set up the land there for you since U.N. created a country for you from Arab's land. But looking at the map now, are you within the boundary what U.N. has set up for you then???

@ephone



How is it true? even in the video you are quoting many of the pictures are of Jews. Jews lived in this land continuously for thousands of years. Jews are the only one's to have independent states in this land since 3000 years ago, not once but three times. The Arabs never had an independent state in Israel, it was always some conquered province.



This is the opposite of what happened.

1. There was always a Jewish population in the holly land, even in the face of prosecutions.
2. The Jewish nationalism aka Zionism was created some 35 years before the British mandate over Israel.
3. The Jewish immigration Stated at 1882, while the mandate for UK over Israel was given at 1922. So the Jewish immigration clearly stated decades before UK rules over this land and while the Ottomans ruled here. First Aliyah- 1922, Second- 1904.
4. The UK have severely limited the number of Jewish immigrants and have tried to stop Jewish immigration: White book's 1-3. They have also severely limited the land that is legal for Jews to buy in Israel, amounting to less than 5%.
5. The UK has created a detention camp in in Cyprus and deported there immigrant Jews.
6. The UK has never done nothing to limit the large Arab immigration into Israel from neighboring lands in these same times.


First Aliyah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
British Mandate for Palestine (legal instrument) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Old Yishuv - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
White Paper of 1939 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Cyprus internment camps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Battle of Kursk]

To be honest, the majority of the residents there are not jews at all. I do not say there were no jews there but quite few. It was with the british's help that tons of jews moved there to counter the arab's resistance.

You are brushing reality aside, and doing it without an ounce of shame. I have showed you that the Brits have restricted and actively deported Jewish immigration into Israel while not doing the same for Arabs. All you have to do is open the links and read.
The majority of the population from the Sea to Jordan river is Jewish.

In addition, are you telling me there was no country there for 3000 years? You must be kidding me.

I do not know what you call East Roman Empire and later Ottman Empire in your history books???

The holy land was only a province for them, the same way I can claim that the land which is now France did not exist as a country in Roman times but was only a province of an empire.

The land is not yours to start with though you occupy it now.

Well who's is it then? There was never ever ever such a thing as a Palestinian state. There was no such thing as Palestinian people prior to the 60's. So who owns it? The Ottomans? The British?

However, U.N. has already favored you when it set up the land there for you since U.N. created a country for you from Arab's land. But looking at the map now, are you within the boundary what U.N. has set up for you then???

Do I really need to tell you who refused the partition plan (the Arabs) and who accepted? Should Israel apologize now for actually winning a war against all odds. A war in which the Arabs declared they are going to slaughter all the Jews and going to bash the skulls of our babies against rocks? A war which was said by them will bring a second genocide?
Well I am sorry we didn't just roll over and die.

Or after winning the war against all odds, while being surrounded by tens of millions in enemy nations still conspiring against us we should have helped them to achieve our genocide by giving them strategical depth? Let me remind you it is about 20km in some places from the Green line to the sea!

Ask yourself why if there was such a thing as Palestinians seeking independence. Why was it never considered when the Arabs controlled the WB and Gaza? not even once?

Your logic is faulty on every step. The reason is simple, you first draw the conclusion (that the land belongs to the Arabs) and then design the rational.
Should the land go back to the previous owners that would be to the Ottoman Empire, which is not possible. Not the Arabs.
If you claim that the most ingenious people should have the land than it is the Jews who settled the land thousands of years before the Arab invasions, and who had remained in the land even while suffering prosecutions.
If you claim that the land should go to these who managed to conquer it and control it, it is the Jews again.
Only if you design an argument that it should go to the conquerors, who have also managed to control the land for centuries, but not the last successful conquerors since those are the Ottomans, but those before that. But not just any before that, immediately before that, since if you look into the past too long it is the Jews again.
Only if you design this complex artificial argument you would manage to deny any claim Jews have over the land.

here are a couple of quotes of Arab leaders:

“I personally wish that the Jews do not drive us to this war, as this will be a war of extermination and momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Tartar massacre or the Crusader wars.”
- Azzam Pasha, Secretary-General of the Arab League
(Akhbar al-Yom, Egypt, October 11, 1947

“Kill the Jews wherever you find them. This pleases God, history and religion.”
- Haj Amin al-Husseini, Mufti of Jerusalem
(Radio Berlin, March 1, 1944

Notice that I don't deny that the Arabs have some claim over the land. I only deny that they are the only such one's. I also acknowledge the rights Jews have over the land.

 

[Battle of Kursk]

the Arab history dates back as of today's science to between 60 000 and 100 000 years.

The news of the recent discovery in Israel obviously failed to reach you. We have recently excavated the "Palestinozaurus" dating back to the Jurassic era Some 23,89492,29,087 billion years and two months in the past!
Recent studies show that their cuisine was based on frozen Yogurt, communication on ASCII and their economy on stomping their dead comrades into crude oil.
It also seems they have developed the earliest version of Sudoku, consisting only of 4 squares at the time.

 

[The SC]

Do you home work and try to be funny afterwards.

 

[ephone]

Your logic is beyond weird.

By your logic, the war-torn China after 1911 was with so many local military lords, and invaded by foreign powers. There was not a united central government, so e.g. a province in Northeast or northwest China was not part of China any more??? Some minority within that province then could set up its own country then???

Just look at the number of jews there:
Jewish and Non-Jewish Population of Palestine-Israel, 1517-2004

Majority of them moved there during british occupation period. The powerful jewish organization in English parliament has helped a lot to move jews over there. You tell me british did the opposite thing???

Look at the statistics through the link above!!!

Arabs have some claims??? You must be kidding me. Your claim was through a book. For two thousand years, you were always such a minor non-essential part in that land. If the world is just and put the claims in order, you will be in the dead last position.

As for the following wars, the arabs felt cheated by the so-called U.N. and indeed they were cheated as well. By the jews logic, nowadays California, Arizona and Texas would have already been back to Mexico already since the number of Hispanics is already more than other races.

So if who conquered the land will decide the fortune of the land, well, good luck. History will repeat itself times and times again. The only chance for Israel to have peace is two-state solutions. However, it seems that such promise is really far far away.

You are brushing reality aside, and doing it without an ounce of shame. I have showed you that the Brits have restricted and actively deported Jewish immigration into Israel while not doing the same for Arabs. All you have to do is open the links and read.
The majority of the population from the Sea to Jordan river is Jewish.



The holy land was only a province for them, the same way I can claim that the land which is now France did not exist as a country in Roman times but was only a province of an empire.



Well who's is it then? There was never ever ever such a thing as a Palestinian state. There was no such thing as Palestinian people prior to the 60's. So who owns it? The Ottomans? The British?



Do I really need to tell you who refused the partition plan (the Arabs) and who accepted? Should Israel apologize now for actually winning a war against all odds. A war in which the Arabs declared they are going to slaughter all the Jews and going to bash the skulls of our babies against rocks? A war which was said by them will bring a second genocide?
Well I am sorry we didn't just roll over and die.

Or after winning the war against all odds, while being surrounded by tens of millions in enemy nations still conspiring against us we should have helped them to achieve our genocide by giving them strategical depth? Let me remind you it is about 20km in some places from the Green line to the sea!

Ask yourself why if there was such a thing as Palestinians seeking independence. Why was it never considered when the Arabs controlled the WB and Gaza? not even once?

Your logic is faulty on every step. The reason is simple, you first draw the conclusion (that the land belongs to the Arabs) and then design the rational.
Should the land go back to the previous owners that would be to the Ottoman Empire, which is not possible. Not the Arabs.
If you claim that the most ingenious people should have the land than it is the Jews who settled the land thousands of years before the Arab invasions, and who had remained in the land even while suffering prosecutions.
If you claim that the land should go to these who managed to conquer it and control it, it is the Jews again.
Only if you design an argument that it should go to the conquerors, who have also managed to control the land for centuries, but not the last successful conquerors since those are the Ottomans, but those before that. But not just any before that, immediately before that, since if you look into the past too long it is the Jews again.
Only if you design this complex artificial argument you would manage to deny any claim Jews have over the land.

here are a couple of quotes of Arab leaders:




Notice that I don't deny that the Arabs have some claim over the land. I only deny that they are the only such one's. I also acknowledge the rights Jews have over the land.

 

[The SC]

You are brushing reality aside, and doing it without an ounce of shame. I have showed you that the Brits have restricted and actively deported Jewish immigration into Israel while not doing the same for Arabs. All you have to do is open the links and read.
The majority of the population from the Sea to Jordan river is Jewish.



The holy land was only a province for them, the same way I can claim that the land which is now France did not exist as a country in Roman times but was only a province of an empire.



Well who's is it then? There was never ever ever such a thing as a Palestinian state. There was no such thing as Palestinian people prior to the 60's. So who owns it? The Ottomans? The British?



Do I really need to tell you who refused the partition plan (the Arabs) and who accepted? Should Israel apologize now for actually winning a war against all odds. A war in which the Arabs declared they are going to slaughter all the Jews and going to bash the skulls of our babies against rocks? A war which was said by them will bring a second genocide?
Well I am sorry we didn't just roll over and die.

Or after winning the war against all odds, while being surrounded by tens of millions in enemy nations still conspiring against us we should have helped them to achieve our genocide by giving them strategical depth? Let me remind you it is about 20km in some places from the Green line to the sea!

Ask yourself why if there was such a thing as Palestinians seeking independence. Why was it never considered when the Arabs controlled the WB and Gaza? not even once?

Your logic is faulty on every step. The reason is simple, you first draw the conclusion (that the land belongs to the Arabs) and then design the rational.
Should the land go back to the previous owners that would be to the Ottoman Empire, which is not possible. Not the Arabs.
If you claim that the most ingenious people should have the land than it is the Jews who settled the land thousands of years before the Arab invasions, and who had remained in the land even while suffering prosecutions.
If you claim that the land should go to these who managed to conquer it and control it, it is the Jews again.
Only if you design an argument that it should go to the conquerors, who have also managed to control the land for centuries, but not the last successful conquerors since those are the Ottomans, but those before that. But not just any before that, immediately before that, since if you look into the past too long it is the Jews again.
Only if you design this complex artificial argument you would manage to deny any claim Jews have over the land.

here are a couple of quotes of Arab leaders:




Notice that I don't deny that the Arabs have some claim over the land. I only deny that they are the only such one's. I also acknowledge the rights Jews have over the land.

Jews didn't win a war against the Arabs against all odds, not one time. The Brits did it for them, If you read some books on the 1948 era like O Jerusalem, you'll find out how the Brits killed more than 40 000 Palestinian soldiers before handing the keys of Jerusalem to the zionist Jews, it was easy than to terrorise unarmed and unprotected civilians by killing the women, children and the elderly and force them out of their lands.
In 1967, it was the Brits and the Francs that won the war for the zionist Jews.
In 1973, The Americans helped the Zionists Jews to save face (I should say Soul, because even Golda Mayer, said that Israel was on the verge of death not defeat, death.)
In every one of these instances someone else had to `defeat` the Arabs, because they had the means to destroy Israel, and they will always have those means, only this time they will be prepared for your big brothers and by neutralising them and showing them the truth about Zionist's historical bad behaviour, Israel will cease to exist as a state easily and naturally, and Jews can either stay there under Muslim rule and worship their religion freely, or immigrate freely to Christian or Hindu lands and live in ghettos or 'democratically', just this time Muslims won't allow them to run anything apart from making a living honestly and to contribute to the society that shelters them, to live more freely and continue their scams, they will have to leave the Muslim lands and go try their best friends, the Americans and the Europeans and maybe some Hindus at their own existential risk.

 

[ephone]

I have answered this type of questions many times. No need waste time again.

@ephone



How is it true? even in the video you are quoting many of the pictures are of Jews. Jews lived in this land continuously for thousands of years. Jews are the only one's to have independent states in this land since 3000 years ago, not once but three times. The Arabs never had an independent state in Israel, it was always some conquered province.



This is the opposite of what happened.

1. There was always a Jewish population in the holly land, even in the face of prosecutions.
2. The Jewish nationalism aka Zionism was created some 35 years before the British mandate over Israel.
3. The Jewish immigration Stated at 1882, while the mandate for UK over Israel was given at 1922. So the Jewish immigration clearly stated decades before UK rules over this land and while the Ottomans ruled here. First Aliyah- 1922, Second- 1904.
4. The UK have severely limited the number of Jewish immigrants and have tried to stop Jewish immigration: White book's 1-3. They have also severely limited the land that is legal for Jews to buy in Israel, amounting to less than 5%.
5. The UK has created a detention camp in in Cyprus and deported there immigrant Jews.
6. The UK has never done nothing to limit the large Arab immigration into Israel from neighboring lands in these same times.


First Aliyah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
British Mandate for Palestine (legal instrument) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Old Yishuv - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
White Paper of 1939 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Cyprus internment camps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia