#PakWithIndiaNotoLakhviBail: A Cross-Border Show of 'Hashtag Solidarity'

[Strigon]

TBH I didn't...i saw it as a headline in passing, didn't have time to verify the claim...which is why I wrote apparent.

Fake is it?

Takes very little common sense to understand that a chief would not be using twitter especially when there is a spokesman for army. He has a lot more to do in his office than be mistake on forums cuz i dont time has to check.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Rajnath Singh arrives in Israel, security ties to get boost - The Times of India

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You did not ans my questions..
Yes.. india should go to ICJ
please let me know ans of question asked .
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India insreal..
you just saw one Terrosit LET commmand got the Reception by IA..
so india -Isreal for -Home land Secuiry to keep those awya from india
self defence is best offence[/QUOTE]
No i wont answer........Im not answerable to u anyways.

Yr free to go to ICJ.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

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You did not ans my questions..
Yes.. india should go to ICJ
please let me know ans of question asked .
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India insreal..
you just saw one Terrosit LET commmand got the Reception by IA..
so india -Isreal for -Home land Secuiry to keep those awya from india
self defence is best offence

No i wont answer........Im not answerable to u anyways.

Yr free to go to ICJ.[/QUOTE]
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post 40 ..
let me ask you few question ..
1. is he terrorist ? or mujahid or freedom fihgter ? your view
2. Why he is in jail so long?
3. why judges went back from same case and why ?
4.is pak judiciary is independant and fearless and have high integrity both in terms of system and public view ?

no one is answerable to anyone..but when you free to raise question.. allegation .. to others .. your duty to answer the same tooo..
Principle of natural justice .. right..as per internationl law of jurispeudance ..

 

[Umair Nawaz]

No i wont answer........Im not answerable to u anyways.

Yr free to go to ICJ.

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no one is answerable to anyone..but when you free to raise question.. allegation .. to others .. your duty to answer the same tooo..
Principle of natural justice .. right..as per internationl law of jurispeudance ..[/QUOTE]
how abt let me remind u that this is Pakistan Military Forum! We are the citizens of pakistan so we r free to ask u or others our side of questions because yr community r at best just guest members here nothing more.

If u wish to ask us questions then join yr own forums or yr media who always asking our government stupid things. Yr u just join yr armed forces to defend yrself. Simple!

Yr dramas here and crocodile tears wont impress no one.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

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you mean Our forum our Rules .. Bravo..
as ISIS so does Boko so does .. they also follow same rule.. our place our rule.. no question asked .. no logic raised ..
just my way or high way..
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Democracy is in the blood of Musalmans, who look upon complete equality of manhood [mankind]…[and] believe in fraternity, equality and liberty.”
― Muhammad Ali Jinnah[/QUOTE]

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no one is answerable to anyone..but when you free to raise question.. allegation .. to others .. your duty to answer the same tooo..
Principle of natural justice .. right..as per internationl law of jurispeudance ..

how abt let me remind u that this is Pakistan Military Forum! We are the citizens of pakistan so we r free to ask u or others our side of questions because yr community r at best just guest members here nothing more.

If u wish to ask us questions then join yr own forums or yr media who always asking our government stupid things. Yr u just join yr armed forces to defend yrself. Simple!

Yr dramas here and crocodile tears wont impress no one.[/QUOTE]
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you mean Our forum our Rules .. Bravo..
as ISIS so does Boko so does .. they also follow same rule.. our place our rule.. no question asked .. no logic raised ..
just my way or high way..
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Democracy is in the blood of Musalmans, who look upon complete equality of manhood [mankind]…[and] believe in fraternity, equality and liberty.”
― Muhammad Ali Jinnah
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Crocodile tears..
i and many indian keep calm despite these insensitive word.. because we know pain..
but dont mistake it as weakness ...
you have right to have freedom of speech but not right to offence..degrade others as PER YOUR OWN VIEWS

 

[Umair Nawaz]

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you mean Our forum our Rules .. Bravo..
as ISIS so does Boko so does .. they also follow same rule.. our place our rule.. no question asked .. no logic raised ..
just my way or high way..
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Democracy is in the blood of Musalmans, who look upon complete equality of manhood [mankind]…[and] believe in fraternity, equality and liberty.”
― Muhammad Ali Jinnah

u stupid shit what are u saying here?
as ISIS so does Boko so does .. they also follow same rule.. our place our rule.. no question asked .. no logic raised ..
just my way or high way.. in this rather uncouth speech u forgot the great and unsinkable Modi and his beloved RSS.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

u stupid shit what are u saying here?
as ISIS so does Boko so does .. they also follow same rule.. our place our rule.. no question asked .. no logic raised ..
just my way or high way.. in this rather uncouth speech u forgot the great and unsinkable Mdi and his beloved RSS.

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When people are out of argument and defeated by logic then come down to allegation and abuse..
ignorance is bliss .. deliberate ignorance is gift for few

 

[Faizan12341234]

Great effort by them , There are faults in every system ,but right remains right and wrong is always wrong

 

[Umair Nawaz]

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When people are out of argument and defeated by logic then come down to allegation and abuse..
ignorance is bliss .. deliberate ignorance is gift for few

i was expecting this reaction from u. LOL it seems i know u people now. Why dont u go to ICj and do yr thing.......Why do all this drama in the first place?

 

[Soumitra]

I'm going to post two great posts of another thread. Exposing indians own negligence and incompetence which they are blaming on us.

There is a reason why we are giving all the accused bail one by one and the reason is india hanging kasab prematurely
Bare with me while i try to explain this

I say prematurely because the case of the other 7 revolves around kasabs statement. According to pakistan law of evidence ( qanun e shahadat order1984) " if a witness has to give any statements against any person or has to be the eyewitness against any accused the witness must present himself infront of court. Alternatively the statement can be taken from the witness and presented in court by an authorized person such as a magistrate or judge"

As per pakistani law kasab had to appear in a pakistani court and be cross questioned, or the person who took kasab's statement as well as allow him or herself to be cross questioned. However due to the relations between the two countries this was not going to happen. Therefore pakistani law presented an alternative. If the above conditions could not be met then a judicial commision could travel to where kasab was and record his statement. In march 2012 pakistan sent a commision under the impression that india would allow it to meet kasab or the magistrate which took kasab's statement but on the last minute india refused! Not only was india hesitant in not presenting kasab to the judicial commision india also disallowed presenting the magistrate and verifying the statement made by kasab through cross questioning.
Question for indian here before continuing.
Why would india do that?

Moving on pakistani courts could have easily used either statement to used against the 7 accused in jail but sadly this didnt occur. Pakistan tried again several times but india refused. Then in november he was hanged and this was the final nail in the judicial commision. Together with limited findings and the lead witness dead the judge was left with no option but to release the accused on bail I hope that clarifies everything thanks to all who read the whole thing

I would like to expose your lie regarding the judicial commision.

As you yourself admitted there was no way in hell that Idia would have allowed Kasab to depose before the pakistani court. So the compromise formula was reached with the judicial commission of Pakistan.

The commission had come to India twice. They had spoken to the indian magistrate, police officers and doctors. This is a report about the commission's visit

26/11 terror attack case: Deposition of Indian witnesses before Pakistan panel begins




26/11 terror attack case: Deposition of Indian witnesses before Pakistan panel begins
All India | Press Trust of India | Updated: September 24, 2013 13:11 IST

• MUMBAI: The deposition of Indian witnesses in the 26/11 terror attack case began in Mumbai today before an 8-member Pakistani Judicial Commission amid tight security arrangements.
  
  The Commission members arrived at 11 am at a magistrate court in the city to cross-examine witnesses of the attack, in connection with prosecution of seven suspects held in the neighbouring country for their alleged role in the crime.
  
  Police are keeping strict vigil in and around the court. A thick security blanket is in place at the premises. Also, a dog squad has been pressed into service, police sources said.
  
  The proceedings began with Special Public Prosecutor Ujjwal Nikam, representing the Government of India, introducing the members of the Commission to the court while emphasising on the need of evidence from Indian witnesses against the attack conspirators, whose trial is pending in Pakistan.
  
  The evidence is being recorded by Additional Chief Metropolitan Magistrate PY Ladekar.
  
  The Indian witnesses are: city magistrate, RV Sawant-Waghule, who recorded LeT member Ajmal Kasab's confession, the chief investigating officer in 26/11 case, Ramesh Mahale and two doctors who conducted the autopsy of the Pakistani terrorists, who carried out the audacious attacks in November 2008, official sources said.
  
  This is the Commission's second visit to India. During the first visit, they had examined the same witnesses. Now, the witnesses are being cross-examined which was refused earlier.
  
  The Pakistani Judicial Commission was slated to come earlier to India but the visit was postponed due to murder of special public prosecutor in Pakistan.
  
  The Commission includes two officers from anti-terror court of Pakistan, two defence witnesses and a new special public prosecutor, sources said.
  
  Mr Nikam told PTI that a report submitted by the panel after its first visit in March 2012 was rejected by an anti-terrorism court in Pakistan as the Commission members were not allowed to cross-examine the witnesses.
  
  Following this development, a delegation of Indian Home Ministry including Nikam visited Pakistan recently to sort out the matter with Home officials of that country.
  
  Eventually, India and Pakistan arrived at a separate agreement allowing the Pakistani Commission to cross-examine four Indian witnesses so that their evidence can be used against LeT leader Lakhvi and others facing trial in the neighbouring country.
  
  Ten Pakistani terrorists arrived by sea route on November 26, 2008, and opened fire indiscriminately in public places killing people and injuring others besides damaging property worth crores of rupees.
  
  According to police, the conspiracy was hatched by LeT to create terror attacks in India.
  
  While nine terrorists were shot dead by armed forces, one gunman, identified as Mohammed Ajmal Amir Kasab was caught alive. Later he was tried and sent to gallows by a special court in Mumbai. He was executed in Pune's Yerwada jail last year.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

i was expecting this reaction from u. LOL it seems i know u people now. Why dont u go to ICj and do yr thing.......Why do all this drama in the first place?

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Dear ...
can you go to ICJ? or me go to ICJ?

 

[Umair Nawaz]

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Dear ...
can you go to ICJ? or me go to ICJ?

lol now yr just being foolish now.......have u ran out of ammo like u said to me in yr last post?

 

[pursuit of happiness]

lol now yr just being foolish now.......have u ran out of ammo like u said to me in yr last post?

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just ans ..
will reply all with ammos

 

[Arsalan]

Strongly Condemn the bail of Lakhvi and stand with Indian stance on this issue.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Apparently he was granted bail because prosecution lawyer didnt bother to turn up and oppose the same.

So much for "fight against terrorism"

I will grudgingly admit that it may not entirely be the Pakistani's fault.

Their courts are probably only a little worse than ours(and since we know how good ours are). Then there is intimidation, the judge has a family. If Salman Taseer can be killed and Mush shot at, what protection would the judiciary have? There are powerful elements who want him out - may or may not be the State itself.

In the end, we can only hope he is sent back on a new charge or something - anything. That power, the executive must have in that country also...after all they still follow the same Anglo Saxon Law we do.

How can anyone in the world respect the Pakistani Courts. Pakistani courts are not a legal system, its a kangaroo court.
Terrorists can threaten judges and judges let them off, if a judge actually has the galls to give punishment to a fanatic, the judge and his family have to run away to Saudi Arabia as he fears for his life. You can bet that judge will never be opposing the fanatics again.
Giving their own 'law of necessity' when asked by dictators!

Had Pakistani judicial system acted like the judicial systems of the world, followed laws laid down to the letter like judiciary is supposed to, everyone would have respected it. Right now its like a kangaroo court in some African country. So dont ask anyone in the International fraternity, let alone Indians to respect the judgement of Pakistani courts. Respect has to be earned by the institution, just because you are Pakistani, you ask everyone to respect the judgement, thats not how the world works.

That is unfortunately true. The system is held hostage.