Pakistan's worst political party.

[VrSoLdIeRs]

PTI the one man army... always manages to set MQM's tail on fire... awesome!!!!!

 

[SekrutYakhni]

We need at least 100 votes to proceed.

 

[MZUBAIR]

Good to see people are now aware that there is no solution with PPP, PNL N, MQM, PML Q

Now the man should be given a chance

 

[Jazzbot]

all of these parties are nothing more than just crap and bullshit. Muslim League was died right when Quid-e-Azam died, or you can say when Liaqat Ali Khan was killed.. All current PML's are just using the name nothing else..

PPP was dead when Bhutto took controversial part in Division of Pakistan by refusing to talk with East Pakistan's elected parties.. this denial of election by bhutto was the main reason which led towards independence of Bangladesh..

All the rest of parties like MQM (looters), MMA (idiots) and ANP (traitors) are just crap.. Only Imran Khan, or some new party is needed atm. A party which is ruled by true ppl of Pakistan especially middle class and lower middle class's educated young people..

 

[SekrutYakhni]

So, according to initial results all the political parties are worst.

 

[SekrutYakhni]

MQM and PPP ka muqabla chal raha hai!

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

On what basis are we judging the 'worst' political parties?

Performance in governance and development?

Ideally that should be the primary yardstick by which political parties are judged, since that is what they are elected to do.

So lets see, which three political parties have been sent to govern (nationally)?

The PPP, PML-N and PML-Q, the former two not once, but twice each before the last elections (PPP is now on its third stint and the jury is out on how it will fare, but so far the signs are not too good). Both the PPP and PML-N can be argued to have failed miserably at governance and development so far.

Then comes the PML-Q, which governed, along with Musharraf, for about 5 years. Until their last year in office, they did pretty well, with plenty of development projects, high growth rates etc. Of course they did govern under Musharraf, a dictator, so it is hard to say whether their performance would have been the same had they governed alone.

Beyond those three national level parties we have the major regional parties - MQM, ANP, and the 'Mazhabi anti-Fahashi gang' aka 'MMA'.

Of the three the MQM, based on its performance in Karachi, easily wins on the basis of development and governance, with development schemes across the board, most finished on time, new City Ownership projects started, new security initiatives started (CC TV City monitoring etc.) And a largely peaceful tenure.

The ANP is, like the PPP's third term, without a scorecard as of yet given that they have not finished their term in office, but again, aside from their strong stance against terrorism, there does not appear to be (based on media reports) much to their governance and development initiatives.

So last comes our Mazhabi anti-fahashi brigade (aka MMA aka all the religious parties that were part of it), well, they had their chance, like the MQM, to govern with Musharraf for 5 years in NWFP, and they blew it. Instead of development and governance they were focused on tearing down billboards with women on them and banning music and dancing. Instead of focusing on maintaining law and order, the Taliban and other associated militias and gangs had free reign of the NWFP under their government. They proved themselves utterly unworthy of the reputation they had accumulated of being 'Pakistan's most disciplined party' (JI, since they were the largest component of the MMA).

So based on performance in power at least, the MQM is the least of all evils, and the best political party in Pakistan currently.

As for the TI, one cannot really judge a party that is so incompetent that it cannot win a single seat in parliament a decade after it was formed.

 

[Meengla]

I chose 'None of the above'. All have their places in Pakistani politics and will contribute to the evolution of a democratic order in the long run. By the way, the Indian parliament is supposed to have as many as one-third of its members as actual convicts and/or severely tainted. But look at even they have been able to accomplish for India. I am certain that had India been ruled by its Army from the inception India would have been in a lot worse shape. Yes, I know, there is a lot of things wrong with India but it could have been even worse without whatever democracy they have.

And, oh, the political parties reflect the people of a country. Get this into your heads! We have seen that even when the generals turn into politicians they too get 'corrupted'; problem is that generals know that they cannot be held accountable for their mis-deeds--and you know what kind of mindset and policies that can generate.

Finally, quick berating the PPP without justification: It is the only national-level political party in Pakistan. The only party still looked at with suspicion and derision by the Pakistani 'establishment'. And the last time the PPP was allowed to rule the majority of Pakistan was on 4th July 1977; since then, it has never had its own Chief Minister in Punjab. And it has never been allowed to complete its terms since Zia. So much so for the 'stints' in power. Also, the PPP is far larger than Zardari. It is not a one-man show: People like Aitzaz, Sherri, Raza Rabbani, Naheed Khan and many others have parted their ways and come back. They are still part of the PPP even if publicly often taking Zardari to the task. Zardari is a convenient escape-goat for you Bhutto-haters!

Let this govt. complete its 5 years and then, come 2013, you can send it packing. Your choice to do that. Mass rigging is not possible anymore, especially since Punjab is ruled by the Sharif brothers. And, oh, you are allowed to love the Taliban Khan all you want but have the decency to allow others to choose who should rule Pakistan by democratic means.

 

[Evil Flare]

On what basis are we judging the 'worst' political parties?

Performance in governance and development?

Ideally that should be the primary yardstick by which political parties are judged, since that is what they are elected to do.

So lets see, which three political parties have been sent to govern (nationally)?

The PPP, PML-N and PML-Q, the former two not once, but twice each before the last elections (PPP is now on its third stint and the jury is out on how it will fare, but so far the signs are not too good). Both the PPP and PML-N can be argued to have failed miserably at governance and development so far.

Then comes the PML-Q, which governed, along with Musharraf, for about 5 years. Until their last year in office, they did pretty well, with plenty of development projects, high growth rates etc. Of course they did govern under Musharraf, a dictator, so it is hard to say whether their performance would have been the same had they governed alone.

Beyond those three national level parties we have the major regional parties - MQM, ANP, and the 'Mazhabi anti-Fahashi gang' aka 'MMA'.

Of the three the MQM, based on its performance in Karachi, easily wins on the basis of development and governance, with development schemes across the board, most finished on time, new City Ownership projects started, new security initiatives started (CC TV City monitoring etc.) And a largely peaceful tenure.

The ANP is, like the PPP's third term, without a scorecard as of yet given that they have not finished their term in office, but again, aside from their strong stance against terrorism, there does not appear to be (based on media reports) much to their governance and development initiatives.

So last comes our Mazhabi anti-fahashi brigade (aka MMA aka all the religious parties that were part of it), well, they had their chance, like the MQM, to govern with Musharraf for 5 years in NWFP, and they blew it. Instead of development and governance they were focused on tearing down billboards with women on them and banning music and dancing. Instead of focusing on maintaining law and order, the Taliban and other associated militias and gangs had free reign of the NWFP under their government. They proved themselves utterly unworthy of the reputation they had accumulated of being 'Pakistan's most disciplined party' (JI, since they were the largest component of the MMA).

So based on performance in power at least, the MQM is the least of all evils, and the best political party in Pakistan currently.

As for the TI, one cannot really judge a party that is so incompetent that it cannot win a single seat in parliament a decade after it was formed.

Excellent Sir !!!

100 out of 100

 

[rubyjackass]

IMO PTI is the worst of all. Imran Khan has no clue of how politics is managed, let alone his plans to become the PM. I dont get why most people here support him without realizing that politics is different from cricket.
My favourites are MQM and PPP for their secular stance. Also I feel Altaf Hussain is unfairly judged as anti-Pakistan, His views on partition do not mean he is unpatriotic, it is just that his rivals made a good job publicizing the video. MQM's stated agenda of freedom from feudalism is also very attractive. PPP could not cash on the same plank as Bhutto got executed. Now it is no longer associated with the same ideals. Lets see what happens to MQM.

 

[Meengla]

IMO PTI is the worst of all. Imran Khan has no clue of how politics is managed, let alone his plans to become the PM. I dont get why most people here support him without realizing that politics is different from cricket.
My favourites are MQM and PPP for their secular stance. Also I feel Altaf Hussain is unfairly judged as anti-Pakistan, His views on partition do not mean he is unpatriotic, it is just that his rivals made a good job publicizing the video. MQM's stated agenda of freedom from feudalism is also very attractive. PPP could not cash on the same plank as Bhutto got executed. Now it is no longer associated with the same ideals. Lets see what happens to MQM.

Except for a little disagreement with the bolded part, I agree. I think both PPP (even under ZAB) and MQM are/were not anti-feudal really. I admire ZAB for many things but anti-feudal he was not in a true sense. And that was not because he himself was 'feudal': There have been historical figures (like Marx's fellow Engels (spp?)) who have transcended their rich background and did significant work for the under-dogs--but that is for another subject.

MQM is as feudal as they go! I say this because I think 'feudalism' is a mindset of control, of exclusivism, of violence, of supremacism at various levels. That mindset can be exercised by all and it is quite evident in Pakistan by all segments of society: Army Generals, higher civil servants, politicians, industrialists... PPP, on the contrary, is only slightly better than MQM on that count because PPP does have more internal dissent and the dissent is tolerated to the highest degree in Pakistani political parties' context. Read the accounts of PPP CEC meetings and compare with that others; mind you, it is still under the Pakistani context.
But, unfortunately, most blogspace fail to recognize that Zardari is not quite as repressive as, say, Imran Khan, or Altaf Hussain or Sharif brothers are when it comes to openly challenged by party members. The only party better than PPP in allowing a more shared/input oriented approach is, unfortunately, Jamaat i Islami. Sigh!

 

[rubyjackass]

Dissent comes when there are more powerheads than one. For that the party should gain some power somewhere so that with responsibility power will be handed over to new leaders. They will automatically rise up and create healthy dissent. IMO MQM is very new and did not go through these stages. Except for Karachi's mayor there is no popular figure to challenge Altaf. This will change as the party expands its base in new places with new view points.
I have never said anything bad about PPP. It is only that after ZAB, it lost the aura with which it cruised to power. Though it might have sticked to its principles, the posturing in media in this respect is declining due to corruption charges and such petty politics. Even that is not a bad thing. People evolve parties evolve.

 

[VrSoLdIeRs]

On what basis are we judging the 'worst' political parties?

Performance in governance and development?

Ideally that should be the primary yardstick by which political parties are judged, since that is what they are elected to do.

So lets see, which three political parties have been sent to govern (nationally)?

The PPP, PML-N and PML-Q, the former two not once, but twice each before the last elections (PPP is now on its third stint and the jury is out on how it will fare, but so far the signs are not too good). Both the PPP and PML-N can be argued to have failed miserably at governance and development so far.

Then comes the PML-Q, which governed, along with Musharraf, for about 5 years. Until their last year in office, they did pretty well, with plenty of development projects, high growth rates etc. Of course they did govern under Musharraf, a dictator, so it is hard to say whether their performance would have been the same had they governed alone.

dude i really cant understand as soon as PML Q left all they hype fell down, why is that and why nothing of that so called development got drained down the average person?? they were bloody corrupt as PML N n PPP.... even during their tenures pakistan has developed it hasnt been sitting idle

Beyond those three national level parties we have the major regional parties - MQM, ANP, and the 'Mazhabi anti-Fahashi gang' aka 'MMA'.

Of the three the MQM, based on its performance in Karachi, easily wins on the basis of development and governance, with development schemes across the board, most finished on time, new City Ownership projects started, new security initiatives started (CC TV City monitoring etc.) And a largely peaceful tenure.

wow so we judge PML N and PPP for their tenures from 1988 onwards n MQM gets a clean chit for its progress in the last few years?? way to go!!!

what about the lawlessness and ethnic violence in karachi??? which continues till date... btw most of these projects were initialized by the prev. city govt. (though mustafa kamal did a nice job to end em in time no doubt!!! ) but still do you think a underpass is worth the blood of an innocent!!!

The ANP is, like the PPP's third term, without a scorecard as of yet given that they have not finished their term in office, but again, aside from their strong stance against terrorism, there does not appear to be (based on media reports) much to their governance and development initiatives.

all they could do is change the name of the province but not the luck!!!!

So last comes our Mazhabi anti-fahashi brigade (aka MMA aka all the religious parties that were part of it), well, they had their chance, like the MQM, to govern with Musharraf for 5 years in NWFP, and they blew it. Instead of development and governance they were focused on tearing down billboards with women on them and banning music and dancing. Instead of focusing on maintaining law and order, the Taliban and other associated militias and gangs had free reign of the NWFP under their government. They proved themselves utterly unworthy of the reputation they had accumulated of being 'Pakistan's most disciplined party' (JI, since they were the largest component of the MMA).

rightly so but even when JI wanted to break free it couldnt, molana diesel did a major share in bringing the bad name to em!!!

plus as for taliban dude your army failed in that era as well, back then even pakistani nation itself was divided on the issue of afghan war n taliban... so they cant be held totally responsible for the taliban thing

So based on performance in power at least, the MQM is the least of all evils, and the best political party in Pakistan currently.

As for the TI, one cannot really judge a party that is so incompetent that it cannot win a single seat in parliament a decade after it was formed.

hahahahahha PTI has never been involved in any kind of violence/uprest unlike other parties... if imran wanted he could do politics on ethnicity, it would have brought him a major boost, but he didnt, he doesnt love the 'seat' but his country

2ndly mqm only won in karachi n they can be judged but no imran??? just go to his district of mianwali n see how much progress he has brought in...

 

[Fasih Khan]

Napak (N) League for sure.

 

[smartsyco]

there should be check box rather than radio buttons... so that we should have multiple choice