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NEW DELHI - Pakistan's Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV) called 'Jasoos' have been spying on security arrangements and army activities going in India through the international border adjoining Rajasthan, an Indian media report claimed on Tuesday.
In the recent past, activities of these UAVs have increased, the report said.
These UAVs can be spotted at night as sparkling red lights and have become a subject of excitement and discussion among security forces. They are active during day time also and can be recognised by the trail of smoke they leave behind, the report added. These spy planes are active across the border opposite Barmer, Jaisalmer, Bikaner and Ganganagar in Rajasthan, it said.
Indian officials confirming this said Pakistan is taking help of UAVs to keep an eye on the Indian area and their activities have intensified in the past few days.
Indian officials said Pakistan had developed UAVs a few years ago with the help of America and Italy and issing them to spy on India.
They said these spy planes are active at a height of 1500m-2000m just 500 to 700 yards from the international border.
These UAVs are fitted with ultramodern powerful cameras that can capture photographs spanning many kilometers. They are operated from a distance of 25 to 30 km. Computer operators are connected to these UAVs which receive photographs sent by these drones, said sources.
Though BSF is keeping a watch over the activities of UAVs, it is not possible to take any action since they are flying within the Pakistani border, said officials. But senior officers have been informed about the UAVs, sources added.
When contacted Indian defence spokesperson Col SD Goswami said, "Our air defence units are monitoring such activities along the border. In case there is an air space violation, suitable action will be taken. All such violations are analysed and taken up with the country concerned through laid down channels per established procedures."
He added per the international air space rules and bilateral agreements with neighbouring sovereign countries, such flying activities are permitted 10 km away from the international border, but any closer than the 10 km limit requires prior permission.
Jasoos are unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) developed by Pakistani company Satuma. They are controlled via remote and weigh around 20kg. Capable of doing 180 km an hour, these UAVs fly at a height of 10,000ft (3480m). Jasoos have a range of 100km, and can fly for 4-5 hours continuously with battery backup, according to the report.

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not sure if this has been posted somewhere.
 
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These UAVs can be spotted at night as sparkling red lights and have become a subject of excitement and discussion among security forces. They are active during day time also and can be recognised by the trail of smoke they leave behind, the report added. These spy planes are active across the border opposite Barmer, Jaisalmer, Bikaner and Ganganagar in Rajasthan, it said.
Indian officials confirming this said Pakistan is taking help of UAVs to keep an eye on the Indian area and their activities have intensified in the past few days.
Indian officials said Pakistan had developed UAVs a few years ago with the help of America and Italy and issing them to spy on India.
They said these spy planes are active at a height of 1500m-2000m just 500 to 700 yards from the international border.
These UAVs are fitted with ultramodern powerful cameras that can capture photographs spanning many kilometers. They are operated from a distance of 25 to 30 km. Computer operators are connected to these UAVs which receive photographs sent by these drones, said sources.............

So they have clear red lights and fly half a kilometer INSIDE the border. So what's the problem here?
 
I thought some noob got excited and started 20th thread on same topic. I was wrong.
 
actively using UAV to map the territory behind the border is impressive for a country lik ours. no? or have i been deceived by my ignorance? :/
 
actively using UAV to map the territory behind the border is impressive for a country lik ours. no? or have i been deceived by my ignorance? :/

Please do not sell us so short. A country like ours? We are a nuclear armed country in the 21st century. True that we have many problems, but we also have some great capabilities. To be honest, I must say I would rightfully expect us to have such UAV by now.
 
NEW DELHI - Pakistan's Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV) called 'Jasoos' have been spying on security arrangements and army activities going in India through the international border adjoining Rajasthan, an Indian media report claimed on Tuesday.
In the recent past, activities of these UAVs have increased, the report said.
These UAVs can be spotted at night as sparkling red lights and have become a subject of excitement and discussion among security forces. They are active during day time also and can be recognised by the trail of smoke they leave behind, the report added. These spy planes are active across the border opposite Barmer, Jaisalmer, Bikaner and Ganganagar in Rajasthan, it said.
Indian officials confirming this said Pakistan is taking help of UAVs to keep an eye on the Indian area and their activities have intensified in the past few days.
Indian officials said Pakistan had developed UAVs a few years ago with the help of America and Italy and issing them to spy on India.
They said these spy planes are active at a height of 1500m-2000m just 500 to 700 yards from the international border.
These UAVs are fitted with ultramodern powerful cameras that can capture photographs spanning many kilometers. They are operated from a distance of 25 to 30 km. Computer operators are connected to these UAVs which receive photographs sent by these drones, said sources.
Though BSF is keeping a watch over the activities of UAVs, it is not possible to take any action since they are flying within the Pakistani border, said officials. But senior officers have been informed about the UAVs, sources added.
When contacted Indian defence spokesperson Col SD Goswami said, "Our air defence units are monitoring such activities along the border. In case there is an air space violation, suitable action will be taken. All such violations are analysed and taken up with the country concerned through laid down channels per established procedures."
He added per the international air space rules and bilateral agreements with neighbouring sovereign countries, such flying activities are permitted 10 km away from the international border, but any closer than the 10 km limit requires prior permission.
Jasoos are unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) developed by Pakistani company Satuma. They are controlled via remote and weigh around 20kg. Capable of doing 180 km an hour, these UAVs fly at a height of 10,000ft (3480m). Jasoos have a range of 100km, and can fly for 4-5 hours continuously with battery backup, according to the report.

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not sure if this has been posted somewhere.


It is still within Pakistani Border. We can do whatever we want inside our border.

Stupid Indians and their media.

:hitwall:
 
NEW DELHI - Pakistan's Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV) called 'Jasoos' have been spying on security arrangements and army activities going in India through the international border adjoining Rajasthan, an Indian media report claimed on Tuesday.
In the recent past, activities of these UAVs have increased, the report said.
These UAVs can be spotted at night as sparkling red lights and have become a subject of excitement and discussion among security forces. They are active during day time also and can be recognised by the trail of smoke they leave behind, the report added. These spy planes are active across the border opposite Barmer, Jaisalmer, Bikaner and Ganganagar in Rajasthan, it said.
Indian officials confirming this said Pakistan is taking help of UAVs to keep an eye on the Indian area and their activities have intensified in the past few days.
Indian officials said Pakistan had developed UAVs a few years ago with the help of America and Italy and issing them to spy on India.
They said these spy planes are active at a height of 1500m-2000m just 500 to 700 yards from the international border.
These UAVs are fitted with ultramodern powerful cameras that can capture photographs spanning many kilometers. They are operated from a distance of 25 to 30 km. Computer operators are connected to these UAVs which receive photographs sent by these drones, said sources.
Though BSF is keeping a watch over the activities of UAVs, it is not possible to take any action since they are flying within the Pakistani border, said officials. But senior officers have been informed about the UAVs, sources added.
When contacted Indian defence spokesperson Col SD Goswami said, "Our air defence units are monitoring such activities along the border. In case there is an air space violation, suitable action will be taken. All such violations are analysed and taken up with the country concerned through laid down channels per established procedures."
He added per the international air space rules and bilateral agreements with neighbouring sovereign countries, such flying activities are permitted 10 km away from the international border, but any closer than the 10 km limit requires prior permission.
Jasoos are unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) developed by Pakistani company Satuma. They are controlled via remote and weigh around 20kg. Capable of doing 180 km an hour, these UAVs fly at a height of 10,000ft (3480m). Jasoos have a range of 100km, and can fly for 4-5 hours continuously with battery backup, according to the report.

India accuses Pakistan of spying | Pakistan Today | Latest news | Breaking news | Pakistan News | World news | Business | Sport and Multimedia

not sure if this has been posted somewhere.

It has already been posted. Though I'm too lazy to remember where. :D

Suffice to say it's just silly news reporting from our media. Til ka taad banana. What spy plane has red lights on it?
 
why post it here - why not the UAV section
 
actively using UAV to map the territory behind the border is impressive for a country lik ours. no? or have i been deceived by my ignorance? :/

Its quite regular now..

Knowing the flight patterns of eagles near the border...and fitting them with camera's to spy around..
NOW that is impressive.
 
China Provides Key to Pakistani Bandwidth Requirements

Mar. 27, 2013 - 08:19AM | By USMAN ANSARI


ISLAMABAD — Pakistan continues to transform its military into a network-enabled force but will remain reliant on China to provide the bandwidth.

According to the military, its improved communication and surveillance capabilities, through employment of intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance assets such as UAVs, aerial imaging and early warning platforms, were first resolutely tested in the Azm-e-Nau/New Resolve exercise in 2010.

However, according to Brian Cloughley, former Australian defense attaché to Islamabad, full communication and networking capabilities have not yet trickled down to front-line units, although at higher levels, this could be a different picture.

“Communications in the Army seem to me to be pretty basic, but of course all I’ve actually seen are the command posts and so forth in Mohmand and Swat; the higher-level arrangements, as in all armies, are strictly out of bounds to any but those with highest clearance.”

Pakistan may already be sharing bandwidth on Chinese satellites, he said. Despite the size of the Pakistani military and its recent modernization efforts, some analysts do not believe Pakistan requires a dedicated military communications satellite, and that an arrangement with China should be sufficient for its needs.

Elizabeth Quintana, senior research fellow in air power and technology at the Royal United Services Institute think tank, said this is not unusual.

“Many countries buy bandwidth from allied nations or commercial suppliers. The U.S. military is 80 percent reliant on commercial SATCOM, for example, and that is not likely to change,” she said. However, she said it is not impossible that Pakistan would consider developing its own indigenous satellite communications assets.

“Having an indigenous SATCOM capability is largely a political decision [for national prestige, etc.] and, in some ways, may be a military decision if they believe they need an independent SATCOM capability and/or one that they could also offer to allies in return for access to other assets, such as Beidou [the Chinese GPS equivalent],” Quintana said.

Pakistan’s satellite capabilities are at a very early stage, however, so no such decision is expected soon.

While relying on Chinese satellite assets would seem highly advantageous, Quintana highlights some drawbacks.

“Using Chinese SATCOM would definitely hinder the Pakistanis from obtaining U.S. equipment that requires the use of SATCOM — MALE [medium-altitude, long-endurance] UAVs, such as Predator, for example,” she said.

Such an arrangement would give Beijing considerable influence over its South Asian ally.

“This is the problem for any small nation wishing to take advantage of investments that larger, more powerful allies have already made,” Quintana said.

Benefits Pakistan could derive from sharing bandwidth on a Chinese satellite, Quintana said, include access to a dedicated asset it may not be able to acquire for itself and access to China’s Beidou satellites. And in times of conflict, an enemy might refrain from attacking these assets for fear of drawing China into the fight.

“Additionally, if Pakistani systems utilize multiple [positioning, navigating and targeting] systems Beidou/GPS/Glonass/Galileo, it enhances resilience in the event of service failure or jamming,” Quintana said.

Having access to Chinese satellites would give Pakistan a signals relay capability, the lack of which has hindered the operation of MALE and high-altitude, long-endurance (HALE) UAVs.

The data-link range of Pakistan’s tactical UAVs is stated as 200 to 250 kilometers.

Raja Sabri Khan, chief executive of Integrated Dynamics, a high-profile Pakistan UAV developer, said designing new types with the “performances to allow utilization of satellite communication links to their fullest potential” could become reality with a SATCOM capability.

All of the technological building blocks and technologies to develop MALE UAVs are in place, he said.

For more local use of MALE UAVs, he said, “simpler systems, such as repeaters [used commonly to boost cellular signals for increased coverage and range], can fill in as alternatives for thousands of kilometers of range if you plan to fly over your own territory”.

A SATCOM capability is a necessity for maritime patrol, an area where the Navy has started to operate tactical UAVs, and for the operation of HALE-type UAVs, Khan said.
 

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