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This is a picture from a Special Forces competition called "Airborne Africa" hosted by South Africa in 2004. It was attended by the Pakistani SSG and also the Indian SF. Pakistan came in fourth overall behind Dutch SF and Indian SF. South African SF took the first spot. Indians totally kicked *** in the shooting competition and speed march (scoring 50/50) and Pakistan scoring low on both 43/50. Overall the top 4 teams SA, India, Dutch and Pakistan were scored
479, 471, 465, and 456 respectively. The next team, which was # 5 came in with 427 points. The good teams pulled away considerably from the others.
The picture you see is of the free-fall component and includes operators from 17 teams including Germany, UK, Pakistan, India, Nigeria, South Africa, Holland, Egypt, Malaysia etc. etc. The competition even had representation from UK SF.
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I like the way you think. No negotiations with terrorists; just a bullet with their name on it.
How do you know all this? Just curious.
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Isn't the SAS considered one of the better trained SF units in the world, and they did not figure in the top four? Did they not compete in every "category"?
They came in at # 9 and were DQ'd on two events as they did not have the requisite number of operators in these events. But they did get graded on all (even though they finished the two events with incomplete teams) and came in with a final tally of 448. If they had not been penalized for those two events then they would have come 5th behind Pakistan with their total of 448.
The events were as follows:
Route March, Obstacle Crossing, Speed March, Shooting, Observation, Casevac, Grenade Throw, Navigation, Escape and Evasion.
In my opinion, in such competitions, its the less advanced SFs that do better because there isn't really a high tech aspect with which they would be better acquainted (back to the basics to make it a level playing field for all teams). There is more emphasis and reliance on physical aspects like excessive route marches/speed marches etc. (instead of being transported via heli support which is quite the norm for most western SFs).
Also this particular competition should be looked at as a sporting event and the operators as athletes...some days you are on, and others you are not...
Because I was following it very closely.
Any reason for a low performance by Pakistan? Have we not sent the best of the best?
Like I said, the scores were so close that the best of the best were right within a few points of each other. On a good day, Pakistan could have done even better, or on another, worse...the same goes for all teams...every team had some really crappy performance and good ones on others. The aggregate won the day. But as I mentioned the points were fairly close for at least the top 4 or 5 out of 17.
Think of it like a sporting event like Cricket or Hockey...we have good teams and sometimes they kick *** and at others they get their ***** kicked
Overall at least I was happy that our guys were very much on the top and had certain things gone better, would have been in # 1/2 spot.
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They were either former 22SAS or from one of the other SAS regiments. 22SAS members (as well as the SBS) are not allowed to identify themselves as of that regiment.
None of the unit members were identified by their regiments or units. I know that the Pakistani SSG was represented as Pakistan...Indian Para Commandos as Indian etc. etc. The only give away was that the qualification and level of performance required at the ex and that surely was for SF outfits and not regular infantry. The UK contingent could have been from SAS or from the Para Regts...all of the invitees were para qualified.
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