Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

[Icarus]

Hey, nice to have you back (of sorts )
How is life treating you these days? Busy busy?

Yaar I'm still here on and off. Things are going well alhamdulilah. Busy as ever but just wanted some time to vent out and refresh myself so I started visiting the forum again. Still not quite as active as I used to be though.

Since you are here, i might take this opportunity to ask you something for myself. ST-9 and B-6, how would you rate then? I am looking to buy myself a handgun and will like to have one made by POF (buy Pakistani). If these are good enough i might just go for this.

Yaar the ST-9 is a beautiful weapon, but its challenging to manage in the field since it has an internal firing mechanism much like the Glock. So if you're not going to be carrying it through a lot of sand/grime/dirt in a life and death situation, it should serve you dutifully. I'm not saying its bad in field, I'm just saying I have a trust issue with it. I know people who have had it save their lives multiple times and they will swear by it.

The B-6 is a lot more simpler in design. Its heavily influenced by the CZ-75. Its simple, effective and gets the job done well. I also trust it more seeing as its hammer is exposed. That being said however, I tried shooting a friend's and it didn't feel right. It was deadly accurate but it just made my hand uncomfortable. It wasn't functioning as an extension of my body as a pistol should.

I would suggest you get the ST-9. Its lighter, more compact, globally acclaimed and modern.

Personally, I use the Taurus PT-92. Its a match made in heaven for me.

The manufacturer offer the most lucrative deal will be selected. It may come in shape of ToT, JD, Export authority, parts supplier, accessories, other support equipment and other weapon system etc etc.

Old military maxims say never trust your service weapon blindly, it was made by the lowest bidder.

 

[Arsalan]

Yaar I'm still here on and off. Things are going well alhamdulilah. Busy as ever but just wanted some time to vent out and refresh myself so I started visiting the forum again. Still not quite as active as I used to be though.

Great to know. Also i fully understand how spending some time on forum and other similar activities can be of great value for peace of mind and relaxing. It is an excellent place the admins got for us here.

Yaar the ST-9 is a beautiful weapon, but its challenging to manage in the field since it has an internal firing mechanism much like the Glock. So if you're not going to be carrying it through a lot of sand/grime/dirt in a life and death situation, it should serve you dutifully. I'm not saying its bad in field, I'm just saying I have a trust issue with it. I know people who have had it save their lives multiple times and they will swear by it.

The B-6 is a lot more simpler in design. Its heavily influenced by the CZ-75. Its simple, effective and gets the job done well. I also trust it more seeing as its hammer is exposed. That being said however, I tried shooting a friend's and it didn't feel right. It was deadly accurate but it just made my hand uncomfortable. It wasn't functioning as an extension of my body as a pistol should.

I would suggest you get the ST-9. Its lighter, more compact, globally acclaimed and modern.

Personally, I use the Taurus PT-92. Its a match made in heaven for me.

Perfect. You explained it all nicely, thanks for taking out the time.
Well my gun wont be facing the harsh conditions of field anyway so ST-9 as you suggested makes sense. Plus since you mentioned that "not feel good in my hand" i will look at it from this point of view as well and will get a feel of weapon before finally buying one. Will look into PT-92 as well. Taurus is great, have a pump action from them and it is great. Fired there hand gun too but don't really know what model it was Plus PT92 is essentially pretty much same as Beretta 92 which is pretty much same as the M9 (side arm of US Army) so it must be good!

Old military maxims say never trust your service weapon blindly, it was made by the lowest bidder.

So true!!

 

[Icarus]

Great to know. Also i fully understand how spending some time on forum and other similar activities can be of great value for peace of mind and relaxing. It is an excellent place the admins got for us here.


Perfect. You explained it all nicely, thanks for taking out the time.
Well my gun wont be facing the harsh conditions of field anyway so ST-9 as you suggested makes sense. Plus since you mentioned that "not feel good in my hand" i will look at it from this point of view as well and will get a feel of weapon before finally buying one. Will look into PT-92 as well. Taurus is great, have a pump action from them and it is great. Fired there hand gun too but don't really know what model it was Plus PT92 is essentially pretty much same as Beretta 92 which is pretty much same as the M9 (side arm of US Army) so it must be good!



So true!!

No harm in giving the PT-92 a look too. Its a great sidearm but its a little heavy and clunky. These newer models are a lot more sleek. Performance wise, I'm still a bit of fan of nostalgia. PT-92 and Browning Hi-Power have served me well.

 

[Zarvan]

No harm in giving the PT-92 a look too. Its a great sidearm but its a little heavy and clunky. These newer models are a lot more sleek. Performance wise, I'm still a bit of fan of nostalgia. PT-92 and Browning Hi-Power have served me well.

Sir I think we are looking for striker fire hand guns one of them I think these are part of trials

Berreta APX

Canik TP9

 

[Arsalan]

No harm in giving the PT-92 a look too. Its a great sidearm but its a little heavy and clunky. These newer models are a lot more sleek. Performance wise, I'm still a bit of fan of nostalgia. PT-92 and Browning Hi-Power have served me well.

I will surely look at it. One thing that it lacks for me is under rail for laser/torch light. For an unprofessional like me, i will like to get all the aid i can to shoot more accurately. (besides, it looks fancy ). There are some add-on rail thing that can be bough but not sure if it will be available here in Pak.

Anyway i will look at these options and will sure feel them for myself now and decide then. Will share with you once done.

 

[Hell hound]

Well as for handguns it's again [USER=15719]@Horus who is pointing that Pakistan is looking for new handguns and yes main goal is to issue standard side arm.[/USER]

how about FN five seven @Zarvan
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sorry guys had to do it pls don't kill me @Path-Finder @django @Arsalan

Personally, I use the Taurus PT-92. Its a match made in heaven for me.

i know its an odd caliber but what are your views on five seven handgun.

 

[Zarvan]

how about FN five seven @Zarvan
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sorry guys had to do it pls don't kill me @Path-Finder @django @Arsalan


i know its an odd caliber but what are your views on five seven handgun.

It's not nine MM and if big Guns other than APX of Berreta are participating than it would be competition between GLOCK and FN 509 and SIG 320 @Horus

 

[Path-Finder]

It's not nine MM and if big Guns other than APX of Berreta are participating than it would be competition between GLOCK and FN 509 and SIG 320 @Horus

Hazrat what about CZ pistols? Or you are CZ phobic?

 

[Hell hound]

Hazrat what about CZ pistols? Or you are CZ phobic?

na bro FN is the best pistol manufacturer too

 

[Zarvan]

Hazrat what about CZ pistols? Or you are CZ phobic?

Yes there CZ 10 PC would be here and also I think CANIK would here also

na bro FN is the best pistol manufacturer too

Among handguns I think GLOCK will beat FN but this FN 509 the new Gun many change things but SIG 320 is also dam good so it would be seriously tough game for every one to win

GLOCK

FN-509

Berreta

CZ P-10 C

CANIK TP9 SF Elite

 

[Thunder.Storm]

how about FN five seven @Zarvan
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[IMG]https://www.championfirearms.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/Champion%20Firearms_FN%20FiveseveN.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a5/5e/dc/a55edcdf5161e5980490c328465e9f9a.jpg[/IMG]

sorry guys had to do it pls don't kill me @Path-Finder @django @Arsalan


i know its an odd caliber but what are your views on five seven handgun.

Actually Air Force special services wing was interested in this gun.

 

[Zarvan]

Actually Air Force special services wing was interested in this gun.

SSW gets what they want to they don't depend on Army if they wanted this they would be using this I am more than sure

 

[Hell hound]

Actually Air Force special services wing was interested in this gun.

I think they operate p90 too(not sure about it) this might be the reason for both guns can use same ammo.btw 5 7 has very good ammo capacity

 

[Path-Finder]

Yes there CZ 10 PC would be here and also I think CANIK would here also


Among handguns I think GLOCK will beat FN but this FN 509 the new Gun many change things but SIG 320 is also dam good so it would be seriously tough game for every one to win

GLOCK

FN-509

Berreta

CZ P-10 C

CANIK TP9 SF Elite

Hazrat not to disappoint you but there is a huge wide playing field and after 30 years of domination by Glock. They are now on the back foot because of newer Striker fired guns that are offering better performance than Glock. Heck Glock is in a lawsuit in US

na bro FN is the best pistol manufacturer too

yes all praises to FN

 

[Arsalan]

how about FN five seven @Zarvan
[IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/FN5707.jpg/1024px-FN5707.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://www.championfirearms.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/Champion%20Firearms_FN%20FiveseveN.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a5/5e/dc/a55edcdf5161e5980490c328465e9f9a.jpg[/IMG]

sorry guys had to do it pls don't kill me @Path-Finder @django @Arsalan


i know its an odd caliber but what are your views on five seven handgun.

Not sure if it is suitable for us because of it 5.7mm bullet size. Not really a standard with PA