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Scar H?
Is that M21 in the backdrop?
Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.
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Is that M21 in the backdrop?
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So it is indeed here. Any more pics of ACR?the Gun in lying position is ACR
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No bro I didn't even knew that it is ACR it was @Sulman Badshah who told me and this picture was posted in my group by a friend.
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These guys first need to learn How to carry and fire a Gun
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They do now, many aircraft flying over afganistan "and Pakistan" carring suplies to Afganistan are carring them (if Spanish) and UPF (if Portuguese), they have already replaced G36 for HK416A5 and FN Minimi for MG4 and Mg3 for MG5, their training is supperior to what you imagine and standard on all NATO Air forces. Yes they are Air Force personnel!
PS: I am not on their side, I spent 3 years of my life destroyng bars on Satarday, in Azores Islands fighting against these peace of Sh***. Suckers!!!!
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SCAR in most Gun trials have performed better than other Guns and yes after SCAR I rate HK 416 and 417 as best Rifles in the world. Pakistan's economy sucks otherwise it would be dream cone true to see both SCAR and HK-417 and 416 being produced in Pakistan
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I cannot agree that SCAR has performed better in most trials. Quite opposite can be truth there are reports of SCAR having serious problems which are not being solved. Just check the Wikipedia : wiki/FN_SCAR
especcially the controversy chapter at the end.
especcially the controversy chapter at the end.
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SCAR 16 has issues. It wasn't that good as it was expected to be but SCAR 17 totally changed the Game. I think Spain tested SCAR 16 which is 5.56 X 45
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No not really, for example in Peru there had been cook offs with in service 7,62x51.
Quite dangerous, what I´ve heard, the operators are very disappointed.
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Gun Review: SIG SAUER 716 Patrol Rifle
There’s a debate raging in the AR15 community. The point of contention: operating systems. Traditionalists favor direct impingement. Designed by Eugene Stoner, DI harnesses the power of the gasses trapped in the barrel to cycle the rifle’s action. It’s a remarkably simple system with one critical flaw: the gasses blow directly into the rifle’s upper receiver and bolt carrier. Over time, this leads to a dirty rifle. In a gas piston system the propellant gases push a solid rod that pushes the carrier to the rear. That makes for a cleaner running gun. While the controversy continues, SIG SAUER has covered its bets with their piston-driven 516 and, now, the 716 . . .
The SIG SAUER 516 (top) is chambered in the most popular AR flavor: .223. The 716 (below) steps-up to the plate firing the bigger, badder, more lethal .308 Winchester cartridge. Although the two rifles share many similarities, the 716 isn’t simply a scaled-up version of the 516.
Obviously, the 716’s gas parts and push rod are heavier; beefed-up for use with the heavier .308 cartridge. While the 516 uses Magpul MOE furniture, the 716 ships with the Magpul MIAD pistol grip and ACS buttstock. Both rifles ship with a Magpul magazine in their respective calibers and both rifles ship with a nylon sling and folding backup-type iron sights.
The SIG 716 features a hammerforged barrel with a one-in-ten twist. This relatively fast twist rate works well with most everything available in factory .308, including heavyweight match bullets. To add corrosion resistance and durability, SIG’s chrome-lined the 716’s chamber and bore. The rifle barrel’s threaded in the 5/8-24 pattern; it will accept most aftermarket flash hiders and muzzle brakes.
A free-floating railed handguard—running from the 716’s front sight/gas block to the upper receiver—surrounds the barrel. The handguard is firmly bolted in place. At the same time, it’s easily removable for inspection and cleaning of the barrel’s exterior surfaces.The handguard’s top rail sits flush with the flat upper receiver, creating miles of uninterrupted mounting surface.
The SIG 716 has four gas settings: an off position, a suppressed position, a normal operating position and an overgassed setting. The latter is handy for underpowered ammo or heavily fouling. You can access the gas system’s parts through the front of the gasblock. Unlike some competing piston designs, you don’t have to remove the 716’s rail to clean the gas parts.
The 716’s lower receiver is milled from aluminum with QD sling swivel sockets machined into the left and right sides. The mag release is ambidextrous, but the selector is on the right side only. The buffer tube is behind the carbine length, MILSPEC diameter lower.
The tube’s castle nut is properly staked; it won’t come loose. The rifle’s controls operate smoothly. The selector clicks from SAFE to FIRE as crisply as a well-laundered shirt, with extra starch. While the trigger’s a little on the heavy side (7.6 lbs.), the standard military-type go-pedal breaks cleanly with little over-travel or creep.
The 716’s bolt and carrier are massive chunks of machined steel with the carrier tapering down to standard .223 diameter behind the firing pin retaining pin. This reduced diameter “floats” the carrier in the buffer tube—obviating the need for anti-tilt recoil buffers (to keep the carrier from hitting the bottom of the buffer tube due to carrier tilt).
The .308 Win is an efficient cartridge rightly credited with outstanding accuracy regardless of bullet weight. I fired a number of five-shot groups from 100 yards that hovered in the 1.5″ range. While these groups aren’t acceptable for precision match rifle competiton, they’re more than close enough for a defensive rifle.
In the 716’s defense, I didn’t try a huge selection of match ammo. The rifle might shoot more accurately with some experimentation and a load it really likes. In addition to match ammo from Federal andRemington, I also shot several hundred rounds of steel cased Russian ammo from WOLF and Brown Bear. Steel cased ammo can be problematic in some guns. The SAUER 716 Patrol Rifle gobbled it up with no issues.
I tried the rifle using steel magazines from C Products. The mags fed like pigs at a trough but they didn’t lock into the rifle easily when loaded to their twenty round capacity. Of the four steel magazines tested, one would only accept nineteen rounds.
There’s a debate raging in the AR15 community. The point of contention: operating systems. Traditionalists favor direct impingement. Designed by Eugene Stoner, DI harnesses the power of the gasses trapped in the barrel to cycle the rifle’s action. It’s a remarkably simple system with one critical flaw: the gasses blow directly into the rifle’s upper receiver and bolt carrier. Over time, this leads to a dirty rifle. In a gas piston system the propellant gases push a solid rod that pushes the carrier to the rear. That makes for a cleaner running gun. While the controversy continues, SIG SAUER has covered its bets with their piston-driven 516 and, now, the 716 . . .
The SIG SAUER 516 (top) is chambered in the most popular AR flavor: .223. The 716 (below) steps-up to the plate firing the bigger, badder, more lethal .308 Winchester cartridge. Although the two rifles share many similarities, the 716 isn’t simply a scaled-up version of the 516.
Obviously, the 716’s gas parts and push rod are heavier; beefed-up for use with the heavier .308 cartridge. While the 516 uses Magpul MOE furniture, the 716 ships with the Magpul MIAD pistol grip and ACS buttstock. Both rifles ship with a Magpul magazine in their respective calibers and both rifles ship with a nylon sling and folding backup-type iron sights.
The SIG 716 features a hammerforged barrel with a one-in-ten twist. This relatively fast twist rate works well with most everything available in factory .308, including heavyweight match bullets. To add corrosion resistance and durability, SIG’s chrome-lined the 716’s chamber and bore. The rifle barrel’s threaded in the 5/8-24 pattern; it will accept most aftermarket flash hiders and muzzle brakes.
A free-floating railed handguard—running from the 716’s front sight/gas block to the upper receiver—surrounds the barrel. The handguard is firmly bolted in place. At the same time, it’s easily removable for inspection and cleaning of the barrel’s exterior surfaces.The handguard’s top rail sits flush with the flat upper receiver, creating miles of uninterrupted mounting surface.
The SIG 716 has four gas settings: an off position, a suppressed position, a normal operating position and an overgassed setting. The latter is handy for underpowered ammo or heavily fouling. You can access the gas system’s parts through the front of the gasblock. Unlike some competing piston designs, you don’t have to remove the 716’s rail to clean the gas parts.
The 716’s lower receiver is milled from aluminum with QD sling swivel sockets machined into the left and right sides. The mag release is ambidextrous, but the selector is on the right side only. The buffer tube is behind the carbine length, MILSPEC diameter lower.
The tube’s castle nut is properly staked; it won’t come loose. The rifle’s controls operate smoothly. The selector clicks from SAFE to FIRE as crisply as a well-laundered shirt, with extra starch. While the trigger’s a little on the heavy side (7.6 lbs.), the standard military-type go-pedal breaks cleanly with little over-travel or creep.
The 716’s bolt and carrier are massive chunks of machined steel with the carrier tapering down to standard .223 diameter behind the firing pin retaining pin. This reduced diameter “floats” the carrier in the buffer tube—obviating the need for anti-tilt recoil buffers (to keep the carrier from hitting the bottom of the buffer tube due to carrier tilt).
The .308 Win is an efficient cartridge rightly credited with outstanding accuracy regardless of bullet weight. I fired a number of five-shot groups from 100 yards that hovered in the 1.5″ range. While these groups aren’t acceptable for precision match rifle competiton, they’re more than close enough for a defensive rifle.
In the 716’s defense, I didn’t try a huge selection of match ammo. The rifle might shoot more accurately with some experimentation and a load it really likes. In addition to match ammo from Federal andRemington, I also shot several hundred rounds of steel cased Russian ammo from WOLF and Brown Bear. Steel cased ammo can be problematic in some guns. The SAUER 716 Patrol Rifle gobbled it up with no issues.
I tried the rifle using steel magazines from C Products. The mags fed like pigs at a trough but they didn’t lock into the rifle easily when loaded to their twenty round capacity. Of the four steel magazines tested, one would only accept nineteen rounds.
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The SIG SAUER 716 will likely make its way into the three-gun competition syndicate as a “Heavy Metal” rifle. This additional power comes with trade-offs. Magazine capacity is generally limited to twenty rounds, and there are only a few companies making compatible mags. At $20 – $25, .308 they’re generally more expensive than their .223 counterparts.
The rifle is also something of a beast. The big SIG tips the scales at nearly 9.5 pounds; two pounds heavier than the SIG 516. While most .308 military-stylemodern sporting rifles are around nine pounds SIG could have put the 716 on a diet. A thinner, re-profiled barrel and different furniture would have shaved off a fair amount of weight.
SIG should also have reconsidered the handguard’s length. Thanks to the 716’s carbine length fore-end, the handguard stops just behind thegas block. If it was long enough to cover the gas block the handguard would add a bit more rail surface for accessories and allow the shooter to assume a more “straight arm” shooting position. It would also cover thegas block, adding a welcome measure of protection against accidental burns.
In short, the SIG 716 is a great gun firing a round that’s ideal for hunting or one-stop stopping. But why bother? Why not buy a cheaper DI .308 AR?
Fooled ya. I’m not going to get caught up in the reliability debate. Let’s just say this: SIG’s piston drive doesn’t make the 716 any less reliable. Yes, it adds a few additional moving parts. But those beefy bits aren’t easily damaged. Any abuse severe enough to render the piston parts inoperable would probably break other more vital parts of the gun, too. And smash a Stoner gas tube, too.
Speaking of broken bits, spare parts for the various piston designs aren’t interchangeable between the various makers. Luckily, major wear parts like extractors aren’t unique to the 716; they can be purchased from any decent parts supplier.
At a not inconsiderable $2,132 (seen on the street for $1700), the SIG SAUER 716 sits below the price range of comparable rifles from ArmaLite, Springfield Armory and DS Arms. If you don’t buy into the Internet piston hate, the SIG 716 is a lot of rifle for the money. You get a clean-running operating system and the ability to reach out and stop someone. What’s not to like?
SPECIFICATIONS:
Caliber: .308 Winchester
Barrel: 16 inches, 1:10 twist
Weight: 9.3 lbs.
Operation: Short stroke pushrod, rotating bolt
Finish: black
Capacity: 20 rounds (takes standard SR-25 magazines)
MSRP: $2,132
RATINGS (Out of Five Stars):
Accuracy: * * *
1.5 MoA is pretty good, but there are guns that’ll do better. Not necessarily better for less, but still.
Reliability: * * * * *
Thanks to the pushrod piston system, the 716 gun stays clean and lubed longer after more rounds downrange than the competition.
Weight: * * * *
Four stars since all pretty much all .308’s are heavy. But this gun is 9.5 pounds empty.
Handling: * * * *
The controls are good but the gun needs a longer fore-end.
Overall: * * * 3/4
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/10/melvin-johnson/gun-review-sig-sauer-716-patrol-rifle/
I am posting this review of SIG 716 because I think one Rifle in the picture which I posted of trials is SIG 716. @Sulman Badshah @Tipu7
The rifle is also something of a beast. The big SIG tips the scales at nearly 9.5 pounds; two pounds heavier than the SIG 516. While most .308 military-stylemodern sporting rifles are around nine pounds SIG could have put the 716 on a diet. A thinner, re-profiled barrel and different furniture would have shaved off a fair amount of weight.
SIG should also have reconsidered the handguard’s length. Thanks to the 716’s carbine length fore-end, the handguard stops just behind thegas block. If it was long enough to cover the gas block the handguard would add a bit more rail surface for accessories and allow the shooter to assume a more “straight arm” shooting position. It would also cover thegas block, adding a welcome measure of protection against accidental burns.
In short, the SIG 716 is a great gun firing a round that’s ideal for hunting or one-stop stopping. But why bother? Why not buy a cheaper DI .308 AR?
Fooled ya. I’m not going to get caught up in the reliability debate. Let’s just say this: SIG’s piston drive doesn’t make the 716 any less reliable. Yes, it adds a few additional moving parts. But those beefy bits aren’t easily damaged. Any abuse severe enough to render the piston parts inoperable would probably break other more vital parts of the gun, too. And smash a Stoner gas tube, too.
Speaking of broken bits, spare parts for the various piston designs aren’t interchangeable between the various makers. Luckily, major wear parts like extractors aren’t unique to the 716; they can be purchased from any decent parts supplier.
At a not inconsiderable $2,132 (seen on the street for $1700), the SIG SAUER 716 sits below the price range of comparable rifles from ArmaLite, Springfield Armory and DS Arms. If you don’t buy into the Internet piston hate, the SIG 716 is a lot of rifle for the money. You get a clean-running operating system and the ability to reach out and stop someone. What’s not to like?
SPECIFICATIONS:
Caliber: .308 Winchester
Barrel: 16 inches, 1:10 twist
Weight: 9.3 lbs.
Operation: Short stroke pushrod, rotating bolt
Finish: black
Capacity: 20 rounds (takes standard SR-25 magazines)
MSRP: $2,132
RATINGS (Out of Five Stars):
Accuracy: * * *
1.5 MoA is pretty good, but there are guns that’ll do better. Not necessarily better for less, but still.
Reliability: * * * * *
Thanks to the pushrod piston system, the 716 gun stays clean and lubed longer after more rounds downrange than the competition.
Weight: * * * *
Four stars since all pretty much all .308’s are heavy. But this gun is 9.5 pounds empty.
Handling: * * * *
The controls are good but the gun needs a longer fore-end.
Overall: * * * 3/4
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/10/melvin-johnson/gun-review-sig-sauer-716-patrol-rifle/
I am posting this review of SIG 716 because I think one Rifle in the picture which I posted of trials is SIG 716. @Sulman Badshah @Tipu7
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No the Gun in standing position is AK-103 and the Gun in lying position is ACR
its nor ACR look at it carefully and it is CZ BREN in 7.62x39
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FN SCAR
From Pakistani movie JPNA
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So how long do we still need to wait for the official announcement of new main battle rifle of Pak Army....
And now we even have some more new guns in the competition??? Muje mota mota batao yar konsi gun agay ja rhi he aur jiskay select honay k chances hen.Main apni zindagi me hi FN SCAR ya HK 416/417 Pak army me dekhna chahta hn,
From Pakistani movie JPNA
@Zarvan
So how long do we still need to wait for the official announcement of new main battle rifle of Pak Army....
And now we even have some more new guns in the competition??? Muje mota mota batao yar konsi gun agay ja rhi he aur jiskay select honay k chances hen.Main apni zindagi me hi FN SCAR ya HK 416/417 Pak army me dekhna chahta hn,
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