Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

[Zarvan]

since i am not in direct contact with person involved in Trails anymore so cannot say for sure, because i myself don't trust the words i hear in Army whatsapp groups ----- last i heard it was said it is performing good but nothing as compared to ARX & SCAR

I have a group in facebook where I asked few people to contact those in trials. One of them has family friend a Major who is part of trials he told that SCAR H is massively leading but Pakistan may opt for only one version of SCAR H as for 7.62 x 39 AK-103 is being preferred. Don't know about other Guns. Two other friends also told same thing.

 

[Arsalan]

I have a group in facebook where I asked few people to contact those in trials. One of them has family friend a Major who is part of trials he told that SCAR H is massively leading but Pakistan may opt for only one version of SCAR H as for 7.62 x 39 AK-103 is being preferred. Don't know about other Guns. Two other friends also told same thing.

Good of you to confirm the sources of those claims. Will let people know how much they can actually rely on that!

I never have objected to you supporting SCAR, i have always talked against the REASONS you give!

Citing Facebook as a source is a bit ridiculous if you ask me.
People will go on and say ANYTHING.

 

[Zarvan]

Good of you to confirm the sources of those claims. Will let people know how much they can actually rely on that!

I never have objected to you supporting SCAR, i have always talked against the REASONS you give!

Citing Facebook as a source is a bit ridiculous if you ask me.
People will go on and say ANYTHING.

The source are Major in Army and one is part of trials

 

[Amaa'n]

The source are Major in Army and one is part of trials

Zarvan, just to bring it to your knowledge every Fauji these days is like a Wifi repeater ---- all of the LC (Long Course) colleagues have a Whatsapp group --- then they have a group for their Unit, then they have a group for the area they have been deployed to, then they have a group of other people they meet & greet at places ----- so basically non of these are reliable ----- I can tell you that all groups I have seen share the same story & reality is non of them actually have direct connection with the trail ---- messages are just jumping from one group to the other ----- every few days I receive terror alerts which are supposedly from NACTA / NCMC / Interior Ministry --- but no one really knows the authenticity of these ------
So do not base your views on these hearsay
I was pointed towards a Captain who was directly involved in trails --- but I personally found it a bit childish to text someone asking whats the stat of Trails ----

 

[Arsalan]

The source are Major in Army and one is part of trials

Have he shown you his service card?
Dont be ridiculous Zarvan. How can you just choose to trust anything being said on facebook brother by anyone who can claims to be anything!!!
What is your Facebook ID? I will send you a message as Gen Raheel Sharif confirming you that we have selected this:

Zarvan, just to bring it to your knowledge every Fauji these days is like a Wifi repeater ---- all of the LC (Long Course) colleagues have a Whatsapp group --- then they have a group for their Unit, then they have a group for the area they have been deployed to, then they have a group of other people they meet & greet at places ----- so basically non of these are reliable ----- I can tell you that all groups I have seen share the same story & reality is non of them actually have direct connection with the trail ---- messages are just jumping from one group to the other ----- every few days I receive terror alerts which are supposedly from NACTA / NCMC / Interior Ministry --- but no one really knows the authenticity of these ------
So do not base your views on these hearsay
I was pointed towards a Captain who was directly involved in trails --- but I personally found it a bit childish to text someone asking whats the stat of Trails ----

Oh thanks bro!
Thanks a LOT!!!


One important thing to point out here is that among so many groups and so many members in those groups, there is bound to be one or two messages which eventually turn out to be true. However i am not sure how big of an achievement should that be considered as.

 

[Amaa'n]

Oh thanks bro!
Thanks a LOT!!!


One important thing to point out here is that among so many groups and so many members in those groups, there is bound to be one or two messages which eventually turn out to be true. However i am not sure how big of an achievement should that be considered as.

with all due respect to our Brothers in Arms ---- huge respect for men who fight for us, but these Kids in Post 126LC are really taking it to the edge ---- they are on Instagram / Snapchat taking selfies for girls as if they have joined a modeling agency ----- GHQ is not happy about this

 

[Arsalan]

with all due respect to our Brothers in Arms ---- huge respect for men who fight for us, but these Kids in Post 126LC are really taking it to the edge ---- they are on Instagram / Snapchat taking selfies for girls as if they have joined a modeling agency ----- GHQ is not happy about this

They SHOULD not be happy about this. Army is among the most professional institutes in Pakistan and such attitude is not as per the high held traditions of the forces. I hope there is some action making sure that this trend stops. We have discussed this with many concerned people and no one seem to be happy about it but the fanboys who think they are now getting very authentic inside information.

 

[Zarvan]

Zarvan, just to bring it to your knowledge every Fauji these days is like a Wifi repeater ---- all of the LC (Long Course) colleagues have a Whatsapp group --- then they have a group for their Unit, then they have a group for the area they have been deployed to, then they have a group of other people they meet & greet at places ----- so basically non of these are reliable ----- I can tell you that all groups I have seen share the same story & reality is non of them actually have direct connection with the trail ---- messages are just jumping from one group to the other ----- every few days I receive terror alerts which are supposedly from NACTA / NCMC / Interior Ministry --- but no one really knows the authenticity of these ------
So do not base your views on these hearsay
I was pointed towards a Captain who was directly involved in trails --- but I personally found it a bit childish to text someone asking whats the stat of Trails ----

Sir I also tried few other soldiers they had no clue about Gun trials but these guys had. By the way I also heard that Special Forces are also testing AK-105. And as for your question which you asked me about why not Turkish MPT-76 or BREN. Well my answer is that Pakistan should have arranged the money before if they haven't and than tested Guns and selection should be done only on bases of which ever Gun gives best performance in fields. Lastly for selfies GHQ needs to control that because many are not only childish and idiotic but are also security risk.

 

[RAMPAGE]

@T-123456 @Sinan @cabatli_53

Please confirm that the MPT-76 has a free floating barrel? I cannot tell from the pictures and videos. Also, Is the front isn't connected with the handguard, is it?

 

[cabatli_53]

@T-123456 @Sinan @cabatli_53

Please confirm that the MPT-76 has a free floating barrel? I cannot tell from the pictures and videos. Also, Is the front isn't connected with the handguard, is it?

I think You can find all answers that you need in that video.

 

[RAMPAGE]

Im not the one to ask but maybe this will help,

The Turkish MPT-76 is chambered in 7.62 NATO and it will be replacing G3 as the main staple in the Turkish military. The rifle weights

in at 9.2 lb with a 406mm cold hammer forged barrel that has a projected life of 12,000 rounds. It has a forged aluminum receiver construction with a free floating handguard that is held to the barrel nut by a cross bolt. It is claimed that the rifle has passed testings based on the US Small arms testing protocols in TOP-3-2-045, which include cold test, ice test…etc.

Mechanically, MPT-76 runs on a multi-lug bolt arrangement of the Stoner variety. The cycling is operated by a short stroke push rod system. The push rod is not spring loaded and is pushed back by the bolt carrier in the return stroke. To disassemble the gas system, an allen key is needed to unscrew the gas regulator to release the push rod through the front.

Another interesting feature is the stock. It is not a lever-button arrangement as seen in typical AR15. The extension has a series of teeth like a rail. The user has to rotate the stock to move it out of the toothed lock-out position, and then move and rotate the stock to the next lock-out position.

I think You can find all answers that you need in that video.

Thanks guys. This picture answers my question. The front iron sight is apparently attached to the gas block. It appears that it is indeed free floated.

Very remarkable rifle.

 

[cabatli_53]

MPT 5,56mm and MPT 7,62mm on same image !

 

[Zarvan]

MPT 5,56mm and MPT 7,62mm on same image !

@Sulman Badshah @Tipu7 Check it out guys

 

[That Guy]

MPT - 76 (51 N round) is in the trails -- will try to get the updates on the performance ---- SCAR H has become more like a benchmark in the competition now ----

I expect this would be the case.

 

[farhan_9909]

Buss kuch hi maheenay hain,Aik baat andar chala gya toh seniors se puch kr updates dunga