Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

[Desert Fox]

I would love to see them in Pakistan but passing tests in Deserts and most freezing temperature on face of the earth is not a easy task.

Turkey also has mountainous terrain where freezing temperature is prevalent so i don't think that would be an issue, at least i hope not. Though, i'm not too sure if the MPT-76 could withstand the Pakistani desert heat.

 

[Path-Finder]

Full Auto has a lot of kick in it. If it does not pass the trials then other options will be little more costly to procure if they pass the tests!

 

[FNFAL]

We buy them only MP5 was build here not M4 and AUGS

Yes im aware of the lic production of hk products..i was specifically asking about producing ammo.
If you guys go for new round, a major chunk of the money will be spent on re-tooling y.Depending on budget available, the choice of future round will be influenced.

 

[That Guy]

MP-7, the glock accessory has a completely different stock shape.

@Zarvan It's a glock with a RONI system. I thought it was an mp-7 as well, it turns out that I was wrong. The shape fits the RONI configuration perfectly.

 

[That Guy]

SIG P226 with the RONI system

Here's an MP7 for comparison

SIG P226, not Glock:

http://www.caa-il.com/viewCategory.asp?catID=376

CAA RONI Pistol Carbine Conversion for P226

we don't have a clear picture of the gun itself, so it could very well still be a glock.

Whatever it is, its not an mp-7.

 

[bdslph]

Pakistan its always fight terrorist and other missions
so it need good reliable toy

AK 12 AK series did Pakistani consider that

 

[Zarvan]

Yes im aware of the lic production of hk products..i was specifically asking about producing ammo.
If you guys go for new round, a major chunk of the money will be spent on re-tooling y.Depending on budget available, the choice of future round will be influenced.

We would go for same caliber but yes we produce other caliber also

 

[Armstrong]

RONI system:

Here's an MP7 for comparison

I've played with better guns in Call of Duty 4 and you want us to equip our army with this plastic drill machine ?

Heck even our Enemies would be insulted if someone shot them with this carpenter's tool !

 

[Fenrir]

I've played with better guns in Call of Duty 4 and you want us to equip our army with this plastic drill machine ?

Heck even our Enemies would be insulted if someone shot them with this carpenter's tool !

So no plastic guns then? How about this?

In all seriousness though, why not the HK417?

Norway traded its AG3 for the Hk416 military wide and the HK417 as a squad-level sniper weapon:

It's a great replacement for the G3 and serve much the same function (long-range precision fire. It's not a close-range weapon).

It's almost 8, I've got to get to work.

 

[Zarvan]

So no plastic guns then? How about this?

In all seriousness though, why not the HK417?

Norway traded its AG3 for the Hk416 military wide and the HK417 as a squad-level sniper weapon:

It's a great replacement for the G3 and serve much the same function (long-range precision fire. It's not a close-range weapon).

It's almost 8, I've got to get to work.

If Norway went for HK-417 and HK-416 than its dam good weapon for cold weather only question is How it works in 50 C temperature. @DESERT FIGHTER

Pakistan its always fight terrorist and other missions
so it need good reliable toy

AK 12 AK series did Pakistani consider that

The work has just begun we would test all the major Guns including AK-12

 

[That Guy]

Quick Question: pak forces use a lot of 5.56 based weapons from M4s to Augs- Do you make them in your national ordnance factories or do you buy them off the shelf from outside?

The ammunition is home made, but it's not popular, even among the military brass. The 7.62 is considered to be better, and generally preferred due to it's stopping power, and because of the number of 7.62 rifles there are in both the civil and military markets.

So no plastic guns then? How about this?

In all seriousness though, why not the HK417?

Norway traded its AG3 for the Hk416 military wide and the HK417 as a squad-level sniper weapon:

It's a great replacement for the G3 and serve much the same function (long-range precision fire. It's not a close-range weapon).

It's almost 8, I've got to get to work.

More than likely, PA (if this situation is real) is going to prefer the HK option, as HK and PA have a long history together and close working relationship.

PA knows and trusts HK, due to the fact that the G3 has been so reliable, so HK (if it comes down to a competition) has an advantage from the get go, against potential competitors.

 

[Icarus]

Any replacement plans for g3 or its just hogwash?

Frankly, I haven't heard anything about it yet.

 

[FNFAL]

We would go for same caliber but yes we produce other caliber also

When you say same i assume you mean 7.62.

The ammunition is home made, but it's not popular, even among the military brass. The 7.62 is considered to be better, and generally preferred due to it's stopping power, and because of the number of 7.62 rifles there are in both the civil and military markets.

Makes sense to stick to 7.62. even if you produce 556, im sure the ready available qty will be faaar less than 762.

Having said that , what does a new 7.62 based system bring to the table which the latest g3 doesnt, apart from true assault rifle vs a battle rifle. ..this is in terms of performance vs cost?

My humble opinion is most 7.62 systems at this point of time., are being presented as specialized class of weapons- the heavy hitters where 556 doesnt cut it. But nowhere in the doctrines of the eastern or west militaries, does it figure as a weapon to arm their infantry as bulk weapons.

 

[Akasa]

A few options are available for Pakistan:

QBZ-91 with flat top:

Upgraded QBZ-03:

CS/LR-14:

ZH-05:

And of course, the one and only Diemaco C8:

 

[Max Pain]

they have Bretta ARX 160.. but not SCAR


H&K 416/417 are one of the most expensive weapons in this world. pakistan can afford to equip all the infantry soldiers with that weapon?

Another member has even posted the pic of Scar H with the sindh police special forces operatives.

Oh and indians always claim how are we going to buy it just like the case with F 16 but we eventually end up buying em so chillax