Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

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Hazrat @Zarvan ehhh takki jay????

 

[That Guy]

what's that?

I think he meant to type LMG.

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Big if true.

 

[Zarvan]

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To hand it over to Army for trials.

 

[CrazyZ]

Is there any plan to replace out mg 3 lmgs with new better LMG as indians ordered from Israel Meggen LMG and from Belgium mg 7

Pakistan should now have turk and sino omg but it looks turk has variety of firing NATO caliber bullets so they are better for flexibility

If it ain't broke....don't fix it. MG 3 is the most successful LMG in the world over the last 50 years.

 

[MikeZulu]

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Global Defense Insight​

Steyr arms is an Austrian firearms manufacturer. One of its firearms is used by Pakistan Army as a Sniper Rifle. Steyr SSG 69 is a bolt action sniper rifle which was manufactured in 1969. It comes with 3 variants namely SSG 69 P-I, P-II and P-IV.

Pakistan Army is equiped with its P-II variant. This variant of Steyr SSG 69 bears a weight of 4.2kg along with 25.6in barrel length which can accurately fire up-to 4050yd (approx 3.7km). This rifle is unique because it uses .308 Winchester with a 5 round rotary feeding system, although a 10 round staggered box is available as an accessory, which was not caught on for hunting and sniping purposes in WWII era.

Image: Gen. Kiyani firing off Steyr SSG (Sharp Shooter Gun) 69-PII sniper rifle during his visit to Tilla Field Firing Ranges. (Courtesy: Reuters/ISPR/handouts)

Its being phased out, and is being replaced by SC 76 Thunderbolt

 

[farooqbhai007]

Its being phased out, and is being replaced by SC 76 Thunderbolt

Not all are being phased out , some are being upgraded with rail mounts so multiple type of scopes can be mounted. There was tender few days back I shared which specifically said indigenous supply of rails for SSG69 along with other guns.

 

[Super Falcon]

If it ain't broke....don't fix it. MG 3 is the most successful LMG in the world over the last 50 years.

But times are changed AK 47 is was a best assault rifle in history of any assault rifle but it is now phased out by even Russians

 

[CrazyZ]

But times are changed AK 47 is was a best assault rifle in history of any assault rifle but it is now phased out by even Russians

AK47 was only good within a couple hundred yards. It lacks the modularity to add scopes (which is common nowadays even for regular infantry). MG3 can be modified with added modern optics......that's why many NATO countries won't replace them anytime soon.

 

[Bilal.]

Pakistani AR15?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1588575218532220928

 

[Abramar]

Pakistani AR15?

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1588575218532220928

Looks to be chambered in 7.62 NATO, so it is closer to an AR10. Even so, it's nothing ground breaking. Also, since we know that the CW39 and BW20 have started production, the Army has seemingly already made their decision. Besides, the AR failed the trials back in the day.

 

[Sifar zero]

Not all are being phased out , some are being upgraded with rail mounts so multiple type of scopes can be mounted. There was tender few days back I shared which specifically said indigenous supply of rails for SSG69 along with other guns.

Where is the tender??

 

[CLUMSY]

Pakistani AR15?

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Thats what i meant by saying that the BW20 isnt the only rifle in the game as of now. Yes that is for army, pretty modular. Though yes it is based off of an AR10, its wayy better than the G3 from my experience.

 

[CLUMSY]

Looks to be chambered in 7.62 NATO, so it is closer to an AR10. Even so, it's nothing ground breaking. Also, since we know that the CW39 and BW20 have started production, the Army has seemingly already made their decision. Besides, the AR failed the trials back in the day.

I believe this type has passed.

If it ain't broke....don't fix it. MG 3 is the most successful LMG in the world over the last 50 years.

Mg3 is too long for maneuvering. Something more compact would be good. Also not sure if mg3 uses disintegrating links. Stuff like the Minimi are lighter and have easier time mounting stuff, also have para configurations which are more comfortable during airborne ops and for when you have to move a lot.

 

[Bilal.]

Thats what i meant by saying that the BW20 isnt the only rifle in the game as of now. Yes that is for army, pretty modular. Though yes it is based off of an AR10, its wayy better than the G3 from my experience.

What advantage does it bring to the table compared to BW20?

 

[CLUMSY]

What advantage does it bring to the table compared to BW20?

Wish i could tell you, if i used the BW20. I can say that reloading with this is going to be much easier than with the system on the g3 which bw20 also uses. Can work under stress. Probably lighter too? From what ive seen of the BW20 it has more rails thus more modularity in its base version, though i have seen BW20s with keymod handguards. Also not sure if the stock on BW20 is extendable/retractable. At the end of the day we need to see more of each to make a well grounded assumption. Both of these are significant advantages over the g3, lets see what the military has in mind...