Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.
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No it hasn't. SCAR is in service with USSOCOM and several domestic police agencies include Customs and Border Enforcement's OAM, but it is not standard issue anywhere in the United States.
And it's not exclusively SCAR, as the HK416 is also used by US special forces.
SCAR was NOT!!!!! selected to replace the M4 or M16A4 in the United States Armed Forces.
Let's see a source that says otherwise. I work for the US Navy, it didn't happen and it's not happening.
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Probably the best overall .308 battle rifle made currently. Using modern production methods, the FN 17S is the civilian version of the combat proven FN SCAR Mk 17. It was purpose built to fight wars. Most remarkable is its reasonably carry weight, a huge advantage in any tactical system. Granted you only get a relatively thin 16" barrel but as you will see in this detailed review, it does not handicap. Years of testing the 17S are shown in many video clips as I discuss the POU, reliability, quality/construction, ergos, accessories, and much more on the 17S system. Accuracy is impressive with match ammo. Value is diminished however due to its insane $2600 price tag and many other .excellent 308 options have been reviewed here. But if you can get past the price of this expensive platform it unlikely you will be unhappy with your choice. Highly recommended.////////////////Nutnfancy Likability Scale: 8 of 10 [1.5 pts deducted for ridiculously high price, .5 deducted b. no 18" made available to civilians]////////////////Show your support of the best and most independent Tactical Channel in the world: patches, shirts, hats, shell casings at
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FN Scar also has many variants which further increases its chances of winning this competition. Lets hope the best one wins IN SAH ALLAH.
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On Arab defence forums their are rumours that which ever Gun will be chosen by Pakistan that Gun will also be chosen by Saudi Arabia.
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Perhaps if what you say about the production of these rifles is correct, then we can sell Pakistani produced SCAR to our Gulf brothers.
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It's and no way we would have tested SCAR or Berreta ARX-200 without making sure we have money to pay for it.
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I sincerely believe that POF will come up in the next few months with an assault rifle design of its own for the Army just like it has assembled the new Sniper Rifle for the Army.
This could mean severe disappointment for all those who have invested time, money and efforts in offering the rifles mentioned above to the Army for trials.
This could mean severe disappointment for all those who have invested time, money and efforts in offering the rifles mentioned above to the Army for trials.
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That's not going to happen. We would have no tested these Guns in first place if we were planning to do that. One of these 5 Guns in trials would be selected as Pakistan's future assault rifle
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The 4 Best Scopes for Scar 17 – Optic Reviews 2016
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The Scar 17 is one of the most modern, heavy hitting battle rifles out there. Designed by FN and marketed to the Special Operation community, the SCAR 17 has the ergonomics of an assault rifle but with the powerful .308 chambering. Because the Scar 17 is a precise rifle, it needs a good quality optic to take advantage of its max range. The 7.62 NATO/ .308 Winchester round is a heavyweight quite unlike the dainty 5.56mm. This means any optic topping the Scar 17 needs to be strong and resistant to recoil. A good optic needs to compliment the Scar and take advantage of its seamless ability to transition from a designated marksman rifle to a hard hitting close-quarters battle weapon.
Here, in our humble opinion, are the 4 best Scopes for Scar 17 rifles:
Trijicon ACOG BR .308
If money were no object, this is the best scope for Scar 17 period. The Trijicon ACOG is well known for its military use on standard M4 and M16 rifles. However, these rifles are chambered in the 5.56mm, and the reticle and bullet drop compensator is ineffective on the .308 round. A Scar 17 needs the ACOG BR .308 (the BR stands for ballistic reticle). This ACOG by Trijicon is specifically tailored for the .308 round and takes bullet drop into account. This is in the form of a BDC that shows the user where the exact holdover is for certain ranges.
The Trijicon ACOG (see full specs) has a 3.5x level of magnification and a 35mm objective lens. The model comes with either a green or red reticle that is illuminated but completely battery free. The scope uses a combination of tritium and fiber optics to absorb light and provide internal illumination.
The optic is nearly a pound and 8 inches in length so it’s no slouch in the size department. However, the Trijicon ACOG optics are known for their last lasting durability and bulletproof strength. The ACOG brand has proven itself through two wars and a decade of experience. This is an optic even a Marine can’t break. The Trijicon ACOG compliments a Scar 17 very well and allows the rifle to act as both a close quarters and ranged battle rifle.
Vortex Viper PST
Vortex is slowly making themselves a serious competitor in the world of tactical scopes. Although Vortex has been producing quality binoculars and spotting scopes for over a decade, their recent dabble into tactical rifle scopes has been met with open arms. Up until now Vortex has dealt with close range combat optics but the Viper is an attempt to reach out and touch someone . . . relatively far away, that is.
The Vortex Viper (see full specs) is a 1-4x power optic with a 24 mm objective lens. The 1-4x is a bit light of magnification, but for the Scar 17 is perfect. This allows the optic to engage at a variety of ranges and seamless transition from an overwatch role to a CQB role. In overwatch, you have a fully multi-coated lens with Vortex’s proprietary XR coating. This provides a very clear picture, with surprisingly light transmission when you factor in the small objective lens. The optic is also one piece construction which aids in increased accuracy.
When social work is required and you have to get close, you get a brightly illuminated, eye-catching reticle. The Viper is tough as nails and completely waterproof, and debris proof. The Viper Vortex is argon filled to prevent internal fogging, and the optic is shockproof. The Viper is an excellent optic that allows the rifle to shine. This is one of the best scopes for Scar 17.
Nikon M-308
With .308 in the name of the Nikon M-308, I hardly have to explain why this optic is an excellent choice for the Scar 17. The Scar 17 is in .308, and the Nikon M-308 is made for the .308 round—it’s a match made in heaven, you can say. The Nikon M-308 is for the Scar 17 owner looking to extend their range for target shooting or hunting even. The use of semi-auto, modern sporting rifles as hunting implements is on the rise.
The Nikon M-308 features a bullet drop compensators to provide easy to use holdovers to make long range shots. This BDC allows the shooter to make shots out to 800 yards. Of course, the scope can do its job if you can do your job. The Nikon M-308 is a 4-16 power optic, which provides a good level of magnification for most shooters with a .308 rifle. The objective lens is a large 42mms.
The glass is fully multicoated, and when combined with the large objective lens provides a large amount of light transfer. The scope is rugged and reliable, perfect for field work. The scope is waterproof, shockproof, and argon filled to prevent internal fog. The Nikon M-308 is an excellent long range choice for the Scar 17.
Millet LRS-1
The Millet LRS-1 is a big optic and is not a close range scope at all. In fact, the optic is a 6-25 power optic. This does allow the user to take some precision rifle shots, and the Scar 17 is capable of long range precision. The objective lens is 56 mm (this is huge, BTW), and when combined with the high-quality glass and fully multi-coated lenses, this optic transfers a lot of light.
The Millet LRS-1 features a shock and waterproof design, with fingertip adjustable turrets for precision adjustments. The LRS-1 fits in with the Millet brand and provides a premium option for the Scar 17. If you’d like a long-range optic, this is the best scope for Scar 17.
Conclusion – The Versatile Scar 17
Versatile—that is the word I use to describe the Scar 17. It’s functional at close, medium, and long range, and can provide long range precision or room clearing maneuverability. The Scar 17 can be fit with a multitude of different optics, and there is no wrong way to use the Scar, but there is a wrong kind of scope. That kind of scope does not take advantage of the Scar’s strengths and is often cheap, and hardly capable of withstanding the same abuse the Scar 17 can handle. Fortunately, the scopes listed here can stand the abuse and provide you with excellent target-sighting for years to come. Good luck!
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Photo by Keary O. / CC BY
The Scar 17 is one of the most modern, heavy hitting battle rifles out there. Designed by FN and marketed to the Special Operation community, the SCAR 17 has the ergonomics of an assault rifle but with the powerful .308 chambering. Because the Scar 17 is a precise rifle, it needs a good quality optic to take advantage of its max range. The 7.62 NATO/ .308 Winchester round is a heavyweight quite unlike the dainty 5.56mm. This means any optic topping the Scar 17 needs to be strong and resistant to recoil. A good optic needs to compliment the Scar and take advantage of its seamless ability to transition from a designated marksman rifle to a hard hitting close-quarters battle weapon.
Here, in our humble opinion, are the 4 best Scopes for Scar 17 rifles:
Trijicon ACOG BR .308
If money were no object, this is the best scope for Scar 17 period. The Trijicon ACOG is well known for its military use on standard M4 and M16 rifles. However, these rifles are chambered in the 5.56mm, and the reticle and bullet drop compensator is ineffective on the .308 round. A Scar 17 needs the ACOG BR .308 (the BR stands for ballistic reticle). This ACOG by Trijicon is specifically tailored for the .308 round and takes bullet drop into account. This is in the form of a BDC that shows the user where the exact holdover is for certain ranges.
The Trijicon ACOG (see full specs) has a 3.5x level of magnification and a 35mm objective lens. The model comes with either a green or red reticle that is illuminated but completely battery free. The scope uses a combination of tritium and fiber optics to absorb light and provide internal illumination.
The optic is nearly a pound and 8 inches in length so it’s no slouch in the size department. However, the Trijicon ACOG optics are known for their last lasting durability and bulletproof strength. The ACOG brand has proven itself through two wars and a decade of experience. This is an optic even a Marine can’t break. The Trijicon ACOG compliments a Scar 17 very well and allows the rifle to act as both a close quarters and ranged battle rifle.
Vortex Viper PST
Vortex is slowly making themselves a serious competitor in the world of tactical scopes. Although Vortex has been producing quality binoculars and spotting scopes for over a decade, their recent dabble into tactical rifle scopes has been met with open arms. Up until now Vortex has dealt with close range combat optics but the Viper is an attempt to reach out and touch someone . . . relatively far away, that is.
The Vortex Viper (see full specs) is a 1-4x power optic with a 24 mm objective lens. The 1-4x is a bit light of magnification, but for the Scar 17 is perfect. This allows the optic to engage at a variety of ranges and seamless transition from an overwatch role to a CQB role. In overwatch, you have a fully multi-coated lens with Vortex’s proprietary XR coating. This provides a very clear picture, with surprisingly light transmission when you factor in the small objective lens. The optic is also one piece construction which aids in increased accuracy.
When social work is required and you have to get close, you get a brightly illuminated, eye-catching reticle. The Viper is tough as nails and completely waterproof, and debris proof. The Viper Vortex is argon filled to prevent internal fogging, and the optic is shockproof. The Viper is an excellent optic that allows the rifle to shine. This is one of the best scopes for Scar 17.
Nikon M-308
With .308 in the name of the Nikon M-308, I hardly have to explain why this optic is an excellent choice for the Scar 17. The Scar 17 is in .308, and the Nikon M-308 is made for the .308 round—it’s a match made in heaven, you can say. The Nikon M-308 is for the Scar 17 owner looking to extend their range for target shooting or hunting even. The use of semi-auto, modern sporting rifles as hunting implements is on the rise.
The Nikon M-308 features a bullet drop compensators to provide easy to use holdovers to make long range shots. This BDC allows the shooter to make shots out to 800 yards. Of course, the scope can do its job if you can do your job. The Nikon M-308 is a 4-16 power optic, which provides a good level of magnification for most shooters with a .308 rifle. The objective lens is a large 42mms.
The glass is fully multicoated, and when combined with the large objective lens provides a large amount of light transfer. The scope is rugged and reliable, perfect for field work. The scope is waterproof, shockproof, and argon filled to prevent internal fog. The Nikon M-308 is an excellent long range choice for the Scar 17.
Millet LRS-1
- Millett 6-25 X 56 LRS-1 Illuminated Side Focus Tactical Riflescope (35mm Tube .25 MOA with Rings), Matte
- Price: $488.49
The Millet LRS-1 is a big optic and is not a close range scope at all. In fact, the optic is a 6-25 power optic. This does allow the user to take some precision rifle shots, and the Scar 17 is capable of long range precision. The objective lens is 56 mm (this is huge, BTW), and when combined with the high-quality glass and fully multi-coated lenses, this optic transfers a lot of light.
The Millet LRS-1 features a shock and waterproof design, with fingertip adjustable turrets for precision adjustments. The LRS-1 fits in with the Millet brand and provides a premium option for the Scar 17. If you’d like a long-range optic, this is the best scope for Scar 17.
Conclusion – The Versatile Scar 17
Versatile—that is the word I use to describe the Scar 17. It’s functional at close, medium, and long range, and can provide long range precision or room clearing maneuverability. The Scar 17 can be fit with a multitude of different optics, and there is no wrong way to use the Scar, but there is a wrong kind of scope. That kind of scope does not take advantage of the Scar’s strengths and is often cheap, and hardly capable of withstanding the same abuse the Scar 17 can handle. Fortunately, the scopes listed here can stand the abuse and provide you with excellent target-sighting for years to come. Good luck!
I suddenly have a quesion. Will the winner replace all of the G3 and type 56 or only G3 @kaonalpha
