Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Basically instead of going for these now we would go for these

Yeah unless you are stupid.

 

[Zarvan]

Yeah unless you are stupid.

Tell this to @Horus he told me that. Also Rifle from trials have been selected and MSBS was never tested. So this is for DMR version

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Tell this to @Horus he told me that. Also Rifle from trials have been selected and MSBS was never tested. So this is for DMR version

Makes no sense when you have home grown DMRs n Sniper rifles... unless you get an anti material rifle.

 

[Amaa'n]

What on earth is a difference between a Battle Rifle and a Assault Rifle I don't get this thing

When we say Assault rifle then as the name suggests its for Assualt teams where you could be engaging targets from 100m to 300mtrs range, shooter is on the move......
Battle rifle can refer to a rifle where the shooter is mostly static and engaging targets b/w 200m to 450m range or beyond.....DMR is where you are engaging targets at any range but for precision rather than suppresive fire......
SBR is for CQC or where target enaged is with in 100m range, shooter is mobile, rapid extraction team

 

[Zarvan]

Makes no sense when you have home grown DMRs n Sniper rifles... unless you get an anti material rifle.

Most likely we are not satisfied with them

 

[Amaa'n]

Most likely we are not satisfied with them

Bhai LSR has won and competed against top of of the line Sniper Rifles in numerous competition.....it even competed against surgeon, blaser and AWM.....and won.....

Basically... Maybe co-fund a MSBS-based rifle that POF owns as IP?

If they wanted that, then thefy would have donevso years ago with Sarsilmaz.....they were going to import an initial batch of 556 Carbine along with handguns and shotties....dont know why that idea was dropped

Most likely we are not satisfied with them

Also let me add that few examples of battle rifles are
.303, m14 ebr, G3, Galil 7.62

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Most likely we are not satisfied with them

PLEASE STOP BEING STUPID.

 

[Zarvan]

PLEASE STOP BEING STUPID.

I am just saying the obvious thing. We are testing new DMR which these new pictures prove and even in SCAR and other Rifle program DMR version are part of the package which we are looking for along with Assault Rifles

 

[AR KHAN]

Sweet people, sweet presumptions..!
It is being speculated/believed that the delegation is for trails & tests of The picture is when Gen. Bajwa visited the "Centrum Szkolenia Wojsk Ladowych" Land Forces Training Center during his visit to Poland and he was briefed about the Center and range of equipment their.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Theres very simple options in front of us, we just have to design our rifle around it, DI or Piston driven in AR platform or gas blowback piston driven in AK platform....just pick a platform and go ahead with it......
A prime example is of IWI - Galil, how they redeisgned their own rifle based on the AK platform and it works good for them......leave tavor out of it, it is still not inducted completely......

It's not very difficult once you have an established Industrial complex like POF.
Pakistan is Just Not Doing it,otherwise there are just 4 main Systems.
We have Just make decisions regarding
1-Caliber choice.
2-Type of Operating system that would make weapon running in all Areas of Pakistan under adverse conditions+Ease of mass production.
3-Selection of Material, which would give us ease of manufacturing in all times(War and Peace)+ has enough tolerance to bear Heat,Cold,Sand and Humidity more than present in Pakistan.

Then there is design phase in which we have to choose two things,
Type of Loading System,
1-Roller Delayed Blow back operating system (G3,MG1A3L
2-Long Stroke Gas actuated Piston driven system(FN FAL,AK 47)
3-Short Stroke Gas actuated Piston driven system(SVD,M4,AR15,AUG)
4-Direct impingement.(M-16)
Out of all these only Long Stroke Gas Piston system would work in all conditions smoothly.

Then locking System,only two types are widely used,
1-Rotary Locking (AK-47,M16)
2-Tilting breechblock (SVT-40, SKS, StG-44, and FN FAL)
Rotary is better because Tilting breechblock is difficult to manufacture.And would make a system heavy.

Now comes Ergonomics,Modulation,type of Material Steel,aluminium and Polymer (there sub types also) usage for construction of different main parts like Upper Receiver,Lower Receiver,Barrel,Bolt & Carrier,Piston,Gas Regulator, Trigger Group housing and Mechanism itself.
After that, on Drawing board and CAD,we would design and simulate operation of our various parts.
Shape of Parts,Movement of Bolt in Receiver etc.

We are ready for construction of Prototype and Testing.
Easier said than done but a country like Pakistan can do it for sure,in no time.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Bhai LSR has won and competed against top of of the line Sniper Rifles in numerous competition.....it even competed against surgeon, blaser and AWM.....and won.....


If they wanted that, then thefy would have donevso years ago with Sarsilmaz.....they were going to import an initial batch of 556 Carbine along with handguns and shotties....dont know why that idea was dropped


Also let me add that few examples of battle rifles are
.303, m14 ebr, G3, Galil 7.62

how would you rate Bern 2 ? compared to AK series ..

 

[Path-Finder]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1014117839626752001

 

[Amaa'n]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1014117839626752001

@Zarvan bhai, may I know the reason for this obsession with the rifle procurement? How is new rifle be it scar or bren or arx going to help our troops? In CT ops?

how would you rate Bern 2 ? compared to AK series ..

Never used the rifle so cant comment on it man.....

 

[Zarvan]

@Zarvan bhai, may I know the reason for this obsession with the rifle procurement? How is new rifle be it scar or bren or arx going to help our troops? In CT ops?


Never used the rifle so cant comment on it man.....

The Policeman was using Type 56 and fighting terrorists and if you watch carefully his Rifle got Jammed twice. And infantry still is largest part of Army and than you need well equipped Police also so that is why I am obssesed

 

[fitpOsitive]

The Policeman was using Type 56 and fighting terrorists and if you watch carefully his Rifle got Jammed twice. And infantry still is largest part of Army and than you need well equipped Police also so that is why I am obssesed

Ab bandok ki safai nai hogi tu woh jam hi hogi...manufacturer ka kia kasoor.