Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

362 pages on, members are still discussing options Give this a rest, my take is that Pakistan will be at least a few more years late before a decision is made to change the G3 with something else. This is because funding is a huge issue as always and the decision is dependent on many factors including the vast numbers needed (it will be one rifle replacing the G3 in use of all 3 services), it will obviously require licensed production, new assembly lines for the rifle and the ammunition manufacturing and potentially any or all add-ons.

This is a very long term process specially for the numbers needed (north of 500,000) rifles. I don't foresee a decision being made before 2020 with the impact (production and re-equipping) being seen in the next Armed Forces Development Plan (AFDP) post 2025. In the meantime, specialized units will continue to buy small arms as their needs evolve but no big switch in the current AFDP.

I remember Turkey starting their process pre-2010. They even had to revise their rifle platform from the HK-416-based Mehmetcik-1 to MKEK's own take on the AR-platform - aka MPT-76. The Turkish Army only began inducting the MPT-76 in 2016-2017. This is what it took for a NATO army with more resources than Pakistan, imagine the PA which is both fiscally constrained and fighting a protracted COIN campaign.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Purely speculating here but I think POF first wants to upgrade their manufacturing abilities.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Purely speculating here but I think POF first wants to upgrade their manufacturing abilities.

Not speculation but this is a logical explanation for the delay ..

 

[Gryphon]

#Egyptian paratroopers armed with CZ-807 rifles .

https://twitter.com/x/status/950056387945684992

https://twitter.com/x/status/950058733626888192

Since last month, the rifle started to appear with members of #Egyptian special forces (paratroopers / Sa'ka) So far, it isn't known if the rifle will be deployed only to Special Forces units or to all Egyptian army units as replacement for old Ak-47 rifles .

https://twitter.com/x/status/950061186325852161

 

[django]

Hazrat @Zarvan @Path-Finder
The CZ-807 seems to be quite a long rifle, how ergonomic would it be in a humvee type of vehicle???

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Carbine, folding stock etc etc.

Hazrat @Zarvan @Path-Finder
The CZ-807 seems to be quite a long rifle, how ergonomic would it be in a humvee type of vehicle???

 

[django]

Carbine, folding stock etc etc.

Even with stock folded it is pretty long but then every rifle has it's drawbacks.Kudos

 

[Zarvan]

Even with stock folded it is pretty long but then every rifle has it's drawbacks.Kudos

Modern Rifles are available in all sizes. This one has 16 inch barrel but it can have 12 inch barrel also

 

[Path-Finder]

Hazrat @Zarvan @Path-Finder
The CZ-807 seems to be quite a long rifle, how ergonomic would it be in a humvee type of vehicle???

I thought its better our resident Muffakar/Derwaish answers the question. I is not worthy!

 

[django]

I thought its better our resident Muffakar/Derwaish answers the question. I is not worthy!

LOL.Kudos bro

 

[Thunder.Storm]

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[Irfan Baloch]

I thought its better our resident Muffakar/Derwaish answers the question. I is not worthy!

Hazoors
why are we discussing other armies and their choices? dont we give enough flying Fs on other threads?

ps its 2018 and the 2 year old competition didnt yield any results?

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Change of administration after elections might show some progress.

Hazoors
why are we discussing other armies and their choices? dont we give enough flying Fs on other threads?

ps its 2018 and the 2 year old competition didnt yield any results?

 

[Path-Finder]

Hazoors
why are we discussing other armies and their choices? dont we give enough flying Fs on other threads?

ps its 2018 and the 2 year old competition didnt yield any results?

I hope the decision makers wake up with a thousand insects in their pants.

 

[django]

I hope the decision makers wake up with a thousand insects in the pants.

Hazrat will throw an Armadillo in their way lol.Kudos