Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

[Kompromat]

It is very convenient to dismiss the report as 'rumors'. CZ's gun is rubbish, it has not been adopted by any large scale military yet. I guess we will find out soon enough what happens to Bren2. From what i hear, they have been eliminated from the 7.62x51mm tender. They have a better chance in 7.62x31 category simply because the only other competitor AK-103 can't be produced at home due to tot issues. This 'accuracy test' given below is from 100m range, that too using a bipod stabilized DMR version. @balixd

We have nothing more than rumours. So, there is no reason to dispute his answer.

I believe CZ 807 7.62x51mm was there very much from the beginning.

Look at this pic. The remarks are dated 26/8/16.

In September 2016, CZ was shortlisted.

https://web.archive.org/web/2016091...16/09/cz-shortlisted-for-pakistani-order.html

 

[Thorough Pro]

You insulted a Pakistani brave hero by comparing him with that indian terrorist

Kulbushan Yadav in Pak Army uniform testing FN SCAR in Balochistan

 

[Gryphon]

PhDr. Ondrej Podel has to be the guy in the video talking about ToT with POF?

Yes.

 

[Gryphon]

@TheOccupiedKashmir The gun is rubbish! I am amazed Hazrat has not dropped by to cheerlead!

That means


SCAR is the best rifle in trials

 

[Gryphon]

It is very convenient to dismiss the report as 'rumors'.

I say, come with one story. In trials, if a rifle 'explodes', it is considered failed AFAIK.

This 'accuracy test' given below is from 100m range, that too using a bipod stabilized DMR version.

The target shows accuracy of x51 CZ 807. The rifle in picture (with bipod) is x39.

DMR's are not used at 100m.

 

[Zarvan]

Horus is the person you rely on as a source. Sorry but what are you implying that he is the ultimate truth?

This is where I disagree I doubt Horus is relying on source. A person can't be right on most occasions on most weapons until and unless he works for establishment in some capacity.

Outgoing chairman POF Lt Gen Omar Mahmood Hayat HI (M) handing over the flag of POF to incoming chairman Lt. Gen Omar Farooq Durrani HI (M).

@Horus

 

[fitpOsitive]

As per comment by Horus, I am quite queriou that why Russians denied licensed production of AK-103? Do they fear of anything or they want ti sell AK 103 to Indians?

 

[Kompromat]

AK-103 exploded but it was still better than Bren. Kalashnikov refused to hand over tot so its no more part of the tender as its a core requirement. CZ despite what they are telling the media and you are not going to get the tender.

I say, come with one story. In trials, if a rifle 'explodes', it is considered failed AFAIK.

The target shows accuracy of x51 CZ 807. The rifle in picture (with bipod) is x39.

DMR's are not used at 100m.

I don't like wasting my time on this thread simply because of a bunch of emo kids. That cz rifle in the picture is a stabilized x39 DMR, not the x51 battle rifle or the 39 battle rifle. I can shoot better with a 22 at a 100m range.

I say, come with one story. In trials, if a rifle 'explodes', it is considered failed AFAIK.

The target shows accuracy of x51 CZ 807. The rifle in picture (with bipod) is x39.

DMR's are not used at 100m.

 

[Kompromat]

Protectionism. Somehow Russians think AK-103 will sell in the same numbers as the 47.

CZ was caught cheating, replacing parts etc.

As per comment by Horus, I am quite queriou that why Russians denied licensed production of AK-103? Do they fear of anything or they want ti sell AK 103 to Indians?

 

[El Fuego]

I made small research on FN SCAR performance in past years:
1) France army trials - failed
2) New Zealand army assault rifle - failed
3) UK DMR - failed
4) Czech Republic assault rifle - failed
5) US Soccom - shelved, pulled of the already equipped units
6) Australia DMR - failed
7) New Zealand DMR - failed
8) Czech Republic DMR - failed
9) Norway assault rifle - failed
10) Norway DMR - failed
11) Colombia Fuerzas Especiales de Marina DMR -failed
12) Belgium home army - not in service as main rifle
13) Peru the only big user - bribery scandal, manipulating, cheating..

All these are facts - not just words

Hope I will not be banned for this, because I am afraid this thread is under control of SCAR lobby

 

[Path-Finder]

I made small research on FN SCAR performance in past years:
1) France army trials - failed
2) New Zealand army assault rifle - failed
3) UK DMR - failed
4) Czech Republic assault rifle - failed
5) US Soccom - shelved, pulled of the already equipped units
6) Australia DMR - failed
7) New Zealand DMR - failed
8) Czech Republic DMR - failed
9) Norway assault rifle - failed
10) Norway DMR - failed
11) Colombia Fuerzas Especiales de Marina DMR -failed
12) Belgium home army - not in service as main rifle
13) Peru the only big user - bribery scandal, manipulating, cheating..

All these are facts - not just words

Hope I will not be banned for this, because I am afraid this thread is under control of SCAR lobby

Are you Colombian Military/Police? I am A BIG fan of Colombian Police and Its Police Special Ops units!

 

[django]

I made small research on FN SCAR performance in past years:
1) France army trials - failed
2) New Zealand army assault rifle - failed
3) UK DMR - failed
4) Czech Republic assault rifle - failed
5) US Soccom - shelved, pulled of the already equipped units
6) Australia DMR - failed
7) New Zealand DMR - failed
8) Czech Republic DMR - failed
9) Norway assault rifle - failed
10) Norway DMR - failed
11) Colombia Fuerzas Especiales de Marina DMR -failed
12) Belgium home army - not in service as main rifle
13) Peru the only big user - bribery scandal, manipulating, cheating..

All these are facts - not just words

Hope I will not be banned for this, because I am afraid this thread is under control of SCAR lobby

Hazrat sahib @Zarvan

 

[Gryphon]

I made small research on FN SCAR performance in past years:
1) France army trials - failed
2) New Zealand army assault rifle - failed
3) UK DMR - failed
4) Czech Republic assault rifle - failed
5) US Soccom - shelved, pulled of the already equipped units
6) Australia DMR - failed
7) New Zealand DMR - failed
8) Czech Republic DMR - failed
9) Norway assault rifle - failed
10) Norway DMR - failed
11) Colombia Fuerzas Especiales de Marina DMR -failed
12) Belgium home army - not in service as main rifle
13) Peru the only big user - bribery scandal, manipulating, cheating..

All these are facts - not just words

Hope I will not be banned for this, because I am afraid this thread is under control of SCAR lobby

SCAR obsessed folks here will not like this, I am telling you.

 

[Kompromat]

40k SCAR are in service with KSA.
300,000 sold so far, more than other contestants.

Other contestants also aren't in large scale service. HK is not selling to Pakistan, Kalashnikov isn't willing to give TOT, ARX-200 isn't battle tested and CZ cheated during tests.

I made small research on FN SCAR performance in past years:
1) France army trials - failed
2) New Zealand army assault rifle - failed
3) UK DMR - failed
4) Czech Republic assault rifle - failed
5) US Soccom - shelved, pulled of the already equipped units
6) Australia DMR - failed
7) New Zealand DMR - failed
8) Czech Republic DMR - failed
9) Norway assault rifle - failed
10) Norway DMR - failed
11) Colombia Fuerzas Especiales de Marina DMR -failed
12) Belgium home army - not in service as main rifle
13) Peru the only big user - bribery scandal, manipulating, cheating..

All these are facts - not just words

Hope I will not be banned for this, because I am afraid this thread is under control of SCAR lobby

 

[Khafee]

40k SCAR are in service with KSA.
300,000 sold so far, more than other contestants.

Other contestants also aren't in large scale service. HK is not selling to Pakistan, Kalashnikov isn't willing to give TOT, ARX-200 isn't battle tested and CZ cheated during tests.

So SCAR is in?