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Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

Which rifle should win the competition?

  • FN-SCAR-H

    Votes: 241 42.9%
  • Beretta ARX-200

    Votes: 62 11.0%
  • CZ-806 Bren2

    Votes: 116 20.6%
  • Kalashnikov AK-103

    Votes: 127 22.6%
  • Zavasta M21

    Votes: 17 3.0%

  • Total voters
    562
Actually it havent. From what i have been told, three guns met the required specifications. You know as well i do that such trials are not like a horse race. (though it is being presented as one by few from a few months now)

Some parameters were set, few specific details were mentioned regarding what we are looking in the new gun, some requirments and features that PA would want. Weight, accuracy, power and reliability for example. Now all guns were tested on all these parameters and 3 guns made it through and checked all boxes with two being slightly better and thus given a priority. Third also not ruled out. Others were dropped alltogether. This is what makes sense as well. I mean, unlike the fanboy stuff, we know that while selecting a tank we wont select the one that runs fastest or shoots the longest distance. Rather we wil ask for a required speed and a required firing range and see what options suite us. Same is happening here and that is why i have been trying my level best to hold back people from claiming that xyz is confirmed as selected and have out classes everything else. That is NOT how the trials were being conducted for crying out loud. What more can i add without breaking a few promises. :lol:

Anyway, now among these three which are most probable down to two, it will be all about business proposal, again, as i have been trying to tell. Italians have a upper hand as they are likely to come with better proposal (consider the POF upgradation work as well) but the PA is damn serious about this one and will not just fall for that proposal and will likely discuss that with FN too. A negotiation process!!! They better option will win.


IDEAS might not announce a clear name but you never know. Things can change in blink of an eye in such cases. All it will take is a business offer we cannot refuse!!!:tup::)

BTW, Thanks for tagging me. You gave me a chance to try again and say all this once more.

Also i will again point out that though the deal, when announced will mention "guns for whole army" but that is not what the procurement plan is. It will be a step by step and a gradual process and there might be some changes (unlikely to be more than upgrades/modifications but who knows) once the first batch are taken to the field. :(
Which three Guns ??? SCAR is 1 than Berreta so which one is third one ???? @Horus @Arsalan
 
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There is no confirmation until officially announced. It is down to price(and kickbacks) now than anything else.

I think kickbacks are the part of almost every military deals in the world and I am sure, it wouldn't be, even if there is any, that much this time provided the current check & balance and accountability process. what do you think?
 
I think kickbacks are the part of almost every military deals in the world and I am sure, it wouldn't be, even if there is any, that much this time provided the current check & balance and accountability process. what do you think?
They are, but it varies in extent and openness due to checks and balances; and Pakistan has laughable checks and balances despite the current facade representing otherwise.
 
They are, but it varies in extent and openness due to checks and balances; and Pakistan has laughable checks and balances despite the current facade representing otherwise.
How brazen does it get? I know golf club memberships and post-retirement jobs are a common practice in a lot of countries, but I guess that's too classy for Pakistan.
 
How brazen does it get? I know golf club memberships and post-retirement jobs are a common practice in a lot of countries, but I guess that's too classy for Pakistan.
How about these for free and openly displayed
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In one case for the military, one for the father and one for the son.
 
How about these for free and openly displayed
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In one case for the military, one for the father and one for the son.
It would be disgusting to see that kickbacks lead us to go for 2nd best. It would be great disservice to our soldiers
 
every seller knows kickbacks are a reality, hence they are already built in to the price, paid by the state through tax payers money and goes in to the pocket of the person entrusted with that decision/position.
 

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