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Pakistan’s power sector has swallowed 45 billion $ of national exchequer due to poor performance

Bro I think you need to listen to what Dr Samar Mubarak has to say of last tenure of Plmn, how thar coal was rolled back, funding stopped in favour of imported fuel plants for kick backs.
It's not about IPP's but the terms agreed with them with 40% profit on generation and 100% of capacity payment irrespective of production, they just got kickbacks from IPP's and never transferred the actual cost agreed with them to the public to save their politics and left it to the next government. Thieves and cowards.
Can you please tell me what are benefits of installing an imported coal based power plant all the way up in sahiwal, imagine the logistics and cost? It was done to gather votes in sahiwal.
Can you tell me the cost benefit analysis of Quaid e Azam solar, these were just for political gimmicks and kickbacks. There is no financial reasoning for these kind of projects given the buying capacity of our populace/industries.

These are IPP's as well now under this government.View attachment 648576 View attachment 648576 View attachment 648577Can you tell the difference in the nature of IPP's between the 2 governments?


Wow wow wow so from a grand total of about 12,500 MW only 330+163 are from imported fuel and even that is imported coal which is the cheapest form of imported fuel we could have had. Thanks for sharing this list. It is amazing and refreshing. This is the base for real take off. Inshallah by 2030 we will be in a position to achieve 7-10% growth for a sustained period.
 
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Here you go again lol. There are and will always be a situation. Why ppl bring these leaders so that they think thorougly and make policy that ease their lives.

You want to give credit to pmln for plants so pakistan not go dark then at the same should give credit to PMLN fof generating high expensive eletricity as well.



Is this same project samar mubarak complaining for?

Yes exactly, every patriotic Pakistani should listen to this video. This man made electricity for 6 Rs using local coal, it was shut down by plmn in favor of 24Rs production on imported fuels.
This man had cases registered against him and was humiliated in previous government, to silence him and to protect their kickbacks.

 
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WB censures power sector
July 06, 2020

MUSHTAQ GHUMMAN

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s power sector has swallowed Rs 5 trillion ($ 45 billion) of national exchequer due to poor performance of Discos and other factors during the last ten years (FY 10-FY 19)

This was observed by the World Bank in one of its report which is only for official use. Power sector incurs annual losses of approximately 2.2 per cent of GDP on account of ;(i) high costs of power generation;(ii) losses accumulated from unfunded public policy mandates and lack of timely revision of tariffs ; and (iii) poor performance of electricity Distribution Companies (Discos).

Almost half of the annual deficit in the sector is covered by federal budgetary subsidies. The remaining deficit accumulates as circular debt to power generators and to fuel importers. The circular debt is now hovering around Rs 2.2 trillion.

According to the World Bank, the cost of generation in Pakistan is 25 per cent higher than the regional average due to expensive Power Purchase Agreements (PPAs).

There are three direct contributing factors to the generation of circular debt flow. These include (i) difference between tariffs and cost of supply due to government policies and not covered by the budgeted subsidies which result in Discos not being able to cover costs, a liability which is transferred to PHPL which then booked with the commercial banks to make up for the loss;(ii) Discos high technical and commercial losses and ;(iii) additional burden that include penalty payments to IPPs in case the government does not pay on time and debt serving by PHPL. The heavy dependence on imported fossil fuels increases the generation cost more so if there are delays in tariff notifications. For example, tariffs were not increased between 2015-18 and during this period generation costs increased by 25 per cent. As a result, during that period, PHPL debts were increased by Rs 180 billion and Discos’ financing requirement went up by Rs 2.25/ kWh. All PHPL debt is held by private commercial banks and is more expensive (up to 350 basis points higher) than comparable maturity government debt. A Financial Component Surcharge (FCS) of Paisa 43/kWh to be collected from consumers was introduced in October 2014 to help service debts. However, FCS, has not been enough to even cover the interest payments. For example, in FY 20 debt service is projected to be Rs 120 billion while FCS collection is estimated to be approximately Rs 40 billion indicating a shortfall of Rs 80 billion which will be added to the circular debt. There are indications that the government may double the FCS to ensure payment of interest loans obtained from different commercial banks.

Recently, the government made Rs 136.7 billion of PHPL expensive loans part of national debt in the federal budget as per agreement with the World Bank.

According to the World Bank inefficiencies in Discos are also a major cause of circular debt and high electricity prices. These inefficiencies include high system losses (including theft), misbilling and under collections. In FY 19, the average system losses of Discos were 17.7 per cent while Nepra had allowed 15.5 per cent losses to be passed on to the consumers. The differential contributed Rs 37 billion to the circular debt. Another Rs 116 billion was added to the circular debt as Discos collected only 91 per cent of billed amounts.

The Covid-19 pandemic has temporarily disrupted the government’s program to reduce the flow of circular debt. The CDMP had the goal of reducing the circular debt flow to US$ 0.8 billion in FY20. However, the Covid-19 pandemic is expected to add $ 1.6 billion in flows because of the delayed tariff increase, the reduced demand (by 75 and by 60 percent respectively for commercial and industrial users), and lower than expected recovery of receivables. In addition, there will always be a minimal flow because of a billing-payment mismatch across fiscal years.

World Bank is of the view that to ensure that the flow does not turn into arrears, the government includes in its annual budget an allocation to clear this so that no arrears accumulate. After the Covid-19 abates, the annual flow accumulation should decline to $0.5 billion by FY22/23, thanks to the planned tariff adjustments in the CDMP plus the additional measures to improve Disco efficiency and bill collections.

In this regard, the Federal Cabinet decided in April 2020 to reduce the cost of generation by independent power producers to complement tariff adjustments, reducing distribution losses, increase transparency and improve collection. The first round of talks between the government and power producers took place between April 15th-20th, 2020. A Special Committee has been assigned to continue discussions. These measures will be supported by the proposed PACE.

The policy reforms in the power sector are expected to set the path to reduce the flow of the circular debt FY22 onwards and eliminate the stock by FY29. It will also help with better management of tariffs and subsidies, the monitoring of sector performance, and avoidance of discretionary policy decisions that have a negative financial impact on sector cash flows. These actions will also contribute to improve the targeting of power sector subsidies and enhance budgetary transparency and accountability.



and people think its because of poor performance?

nope.

its
not
an accident

its
by design..

this loot and khasoot , is by plan, designied for the 220 millions, pakistani. who by birth are clients, users, and customers..

we are kept, beggers , and live by charity,

the irony is that the masses, willfully accept this humilation of respect which common citizen deserves...

once every 4/5 years we are collected as cattles to polling stations, and are told our piece of paper will make , a difference for our , life,s misery..

infact its just an prolongation of another term of slavery, by sweet sellers of dreams..



for how long?

at what price??


may the Fils de Salope, win every election in hell
 
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@volatile @BATMAN @Tameem @FOOLS_NIGHTMARE @ejaz007 @niaz @Village life
Come on demand Imran Khan's resignation for this gross mismanagement of power sector for the last 10 years. Don't be silent now. We all need your voice and support in this crucial matter.
45 billions USD in 10 years it mean 4.5 billion per year and it also means during 2.5 years the Ameer ul moemneen must have saved 11.25 billion enough to avoid any loans and begging from IMF and world, now the test case is what happened to sugar Mafia , wheat Mafia , drug Mafia , the power houses Mafia all culprits of these mafias are the members of majlis e munafuq , name a single person to whom he sent behind the bars ? Please also tell us what is sugar and flour prices today in Multan and Peshawar , and please mention the most important thing that who is in charge of government ? Whose responsibility is to recover that looted 45 b USD mine ? Your ? Or that moron who is Pm of Pakistan , 2.5 years are enough to at least speak a single word of truth and shram sy doob marny ko , zulfi and Murad Saeed sy fursat milay tu kuch kry, pehly loog dhaki chupy andaz main bat krtay thy ab tu rooz national assembly mian Qadir patial sary aam pachas dafa keh Chuka hy k Murad Saeed our zulfi ka kaya rishta hy Ameer ul moemneen sy? aik Qadir patial ka kuch ukhar ky dikha Dy ,
 
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All the persons he sent behind bars are later released by corrupt to the core courts so people like you can claim political revenge.
please name that person to whom he sent behind bars or they went behind the bars due to the cases made against them in their own govts, and about courts
The same courts which gave him clean chit on tex returns,the same courts which have given stay order on his foreign funding case for years ,same courts who give him leverage to legalize his bani gali gifted by a ex wife and a apartment in Islamabad, the same courts which said Ns is a Mafia and that Mafia don Ns went abroad with his conciliation , or any thing else ?
 
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please name that person to whom he sent behind bars or they went behind the bars due to the cases made against them in their own govts, and about courts
The same courts which gave him clean chit on tex returns,the same courts which have given stay order on his foreign funding case for years ,same courts who give him leverage to legalize his bani gali gifted by a ex wife and a apartment in Islamabad, the same courts which said Ns is a Mafia and that Mafia don Ns went abroad with his conciliation , or any thing else ?

...................go back 35 yrs ,

and general zia was doing the same shit,

now baaz -wala is doing-

the burger king youth , is brain washed by imran virus pathetic , lies.

then the paid media plays the tune, and selected ministers come 24 /7 on channels to sing there hymms.

the tragedy is that................ half of assembly is same , rats, dogs , and donkey since 30 yrs,



they sang the same song, for every , hook/ crook/ and basterd.



and now they are singing the same fcking chorus , with another, oxford 3rd grader, who some

N - TESLas of pakistan... think is the magic potion.....
 
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please name that person to whom he sent behind bar
One? Zardari, Shahid Khaqan Abbasi, Faryal Talpur, Hamza Shahbaz, Shakeel Rehman, Rana Sanaullah etc etc all went to jail during this govt and most of them are out already making them political martyr lol.

and general zia was doing the same shit,
Yeah he was shitting on Nawaz Sharif, your favorite leader
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@volatile @BATMAN @Tameem @FOOLS_NIGHTMARE @ejaz007 @niaz @Village life
Come on demand Imran Khan's resignation for this gross mismanagement of power sector for the last 10 years. Don't be silent now. We all need your voice and support in this crucial matter.
when PML N took over in 2013 it had to do 6 things, most of the work was already in pipeline.
1. convert all DESCOs to coal in a period of 5 years
--> this was partially funded by AB but govt decided not to avail this funding for weird reasons(but probably had to do with kick backs) ultimately just one of the jamsharoo plant was converted, ironically this was arranged by PPPP

2. Ask IPPs to move towards coal--->
a MOU was signed in 2013 but no hard agreement was done why? not sure for that MOU dar cleared all the debt without doing any audit

3. new plants for acute shortage-->
coastal coal project was initiated but noone was ready to invest neither was govt ready to spend a penny nor donors were ready to give funds for dirty projects..so instead of funding fromP SDSP nothing happened.
ultimately govt wasted 3 years and started LNG projects(easily funded by banks)..If LNG was the route govt was going tot ake it should have done it in 2013

4. Improve distribution.
nothing was done, nor was privatization of any utility conducted, the KSE transfer was held due to kick back request per WSJ

5. start hydro projects
some private hydro projects did went ahead but dasu, munda, bhasha were at hold, NJ was delayed and tarbela had multiple fiasco despite all funding available

6. cheaper renewables in competitive bidding:
instead of highly controversial and expensive Quaid i Azam solar project was started with rates of 15 cents as comapred to rates of 4-5 cents internationally
net result:
things got from bad to worse
 
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Bro I think you need to listen to what Dr Samar Mubarak has to say of last tenure of Plmn, how thar coal was rolled back, funding stopped in favour of imported fuel plants for kick backs.
It's not about IPP's but the terms agreed with them with 40% profit on generation and 100% of capacity payment irrespective of production, they just got kickbacks from IPP's and never transferred the actual cost agreed with them to the public to save their politics and left it to the next government. Thieves and cowards.
Can you please tell me what are benefits of installing an imported coal based power plant all the way up in sahiwal, imagine the logistics and cost? It was done to gather votes in sahiwal.
Can you tell me the cost benefit analysis of Quaid e Azam solar, these were just for political gimmicks and kickbacks. There is no financial reasoning for these kind of projects given the buying capacity of our populace/industries.

These are IPP's as well now under this government.View attachment 648576 View attachment 648576 View attachment 648577Can you tell the difference in the nature of IPP's between the 2 governments?



Dr Samar Mubarakmand to be investigated in Thar coal project case
SAMAA | Shehzad Ali - Posted: Dec 6, 2018 | Last Updated: 2 years ago

dr-samar-mubarakmand-to-be-investigated-in-thar-coal-project-case

Supreme Court ordered NAB to start probe


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Photo: Dr Samar Mubarakmand/Facebook

The National Accountability Bureau has been ordered to start an investigation against scientist Dr Samar Mubarakmand and others in Thar coal project case.

The Supreme Court issued directives on Thursday after reviewing the audit report of the project, which revealed that the project is not ‘implementable’. At least Rs4.69 billion has been spent on the project but electricity has yet to be produced, the court was told.

Related: SC orders NAB to conduct a survey of the Thar coal power projects

Billions have been spent. “Who will account for that?” asked Chief Justice Saqib Nisar. “Mubarakmand claimed that people would be provided with free electricity.”

We spent Rs1 billion just on feasibility, after which the project was approved, the scientist said. “How were we supposed to produce gas from coal after the funding stopped?”

The court wrapped up the suo motu case and directed federal and Sindh governments to conduct a scientific study and inform court if the project can continue or not. The employees seeking payment of salaries were asked to contact relevant authorities.

https://www.samaa.tv/news/2018/12/dr-samar-mubarakmand-to-be-investigated-in-thar-coal-project-case/

He made tall claims but delivered nothing. Unfortunate yest but it is reality.
 
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@volatile @BATMAN @Tameem @FOOLS_NIGHTMARE @ejaz007 @niaz @Village life
Come on demand Imran Khan's resignation for this gross mismanagement of power sector for the last 10 years. Don't be silent now. We all need your voice and support in this crucial matter.
lol ,so 2 years in power did he overturn those contracts ? that policy was in place from 1996 subsequent Govts followed that policy

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2113637/pakistans-circular-debt-rising-rs21b-per-month-adb

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here is real performance of IK Govt

I'm surprised no patwari has blamed IK yet for fall of Dhaka. I'm sure it is around the corner.
We blame his Uncle Niazi who also says the same things :)
 
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Here you go again lol. There are and will always be a situation. Why ppl bring these leaders so that they think thorougly and make policy that ease their lives.

You want to give credit to pmln for plants so pakistan not go dark then at the same should give credit to PMLN fof generating high expensive eletricity as well.

Is this same project samar mubarak complaining for?


The unit tariff price basically relies on price of fuel and devaluation of rupee.

The more cost of fuel escalates and rupee gets devalued the more the cost.

Presently cost of fuel is low but rupee has devalued a lot.
 
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Dr Samar Mubarakmand to be investigated in Thar coal project case
SAMAA | Shehzad Ali - Posted: Dec 6, 2018 | Last Updated: 2 years ago

dr-samar-mubarakmand-to-be-investigated-in-thar-coal-project-case

Supreme Court ordered NAB to start probe


samar-mubaraka-640x425.jpg

Photo: Dr Samar Mubarakmand/Facebook

The National Accountability Bureau has been ordered to start an investigation against scientist Dr Samar Mubarakmand and others in Thar coal project case.

The Supreme Court issued directives on Thursday after reviewing the audit report of the project, which revealed that the project is not ‘implementable’. At least Rs4.69 billion has been spent on the project but electricity has yet to be produced, the court was told.

Related: SC orders NAB to conduct a survey of the Thar coal power projects

Billions have been spent. “Who will account for that?” asked Chief Justice Saqib Nisar. “Mubarakmand claimed that people would be provided with free electricity.”

We spent Rs1 billion just on feasibility, after which the project was approved, the scientist said. “How were we supposed to produce gas from coal after the funding stopped?”

The court wrapped up the suo motu case and directed federal and Sindh governments to conduct a scientific study and inform court if the project can continue or not. The employees seeking payment of salaries were asked to contact relevant authorities.

https://www.samaa.tv/news/2018/12/dr-samar-mubarakmand-to-be-investigated-in-thar-coal-project-case/

He made tall claims but delivered nothing. Unfortunate yest but it is reality.

Bro this is the actual situation on ground in Thar now. The project was a success. There are now more than 10 IPP's now initiating projects, I showed you the list in my previous post. This government has taken very keen interest in that, even Chinese are investing in Thar, infact they took over the Block 1.


Do not demonize the person like PLMN did ( for monetary purposes) who is a nation hero and has many contributions to Pakistan to prove your point. Are all these companies investing fools ?
 
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Bro this is the actual situation on ground in Thar now. The project was a success. There are now more than 10 IPP's now initiating projects, I showed you the list in my previous post. This government has taken very keen interest in that, even Chinese are investing in Thar, infact they took over the Block 1.


Do not demonize the person like PLMN did ( for monetary purposes) who is a nation hero and has many contributions to Pakistan to prove your point. Are all these companies investing fools ?

I was referring to Thar coal gassification project. That project did not yield results as were claimed by Dr. Samar. There were also some financial irregularities in the project.
 
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