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Pakistan's Political Will "wavering" In Pakistan

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Mr...waraich66 do have some depth. He said about the Taliban as

Remember Talaban are basically son of david(Ten lost tribes).They are very good friend if you make them friend and very bad enemy if make your enemy.


And I denied it as

BTW these stiff minded people can never be the progeny of David. Those 'Ten Lost Tribes' are lost for good.thanx


But I got some info about the Taliban and the history. Please see below


Mystery of the Ten Lost Tribes
Afghanistan
by Rabbi Marvin Tokayer

The Bible mentions the city of Medes as one of the locations of the Assyrian exile of the Ten Tribes of Israel. Most explain and understand this area to be the region in Northwest Persia called Kurdistan. It is an accepted tradition that the people of this area are from the Assyrian exile.

When one considers the possibility of the people of this exile wandering north and east, then this would apply to the Tribes of Israel living in the Caucasian Mountains between the Caspian Sea and the Black Sea which includes the areas of Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaidzhan, and Daghistan (areas of Khazar in old days). An eastern expansion beyond the Caspian sea includes the areas Uzbekistan, Bukhara, and Turkemistan. From these areas it is very easy to move south to Afghanistan, India, Pakistan as well as to get to China.

If one travels from the area of Medes or Hamadan to farther east, crossing the Khayber Mountains or the Khayber Pass, he comes into the frontier of Afghanistan today. There I personally found an amazing sight. There are so many of a tribe with names that had Yusuf in the name as Yusufzai, Yusufuzi, Yusufzad, etc., who claimed origin from the Lost Tribes and I personally believe it.

Yusuf means Joseph and Yusufzai means children of Joseph. The tribes of Joseph are the tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh who are a part of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel. They also call themselves Bani-Israel meaning children of Israel. Their tradition is that they were carried away from their ancient homeland. Formerly they were shepherds in search of pasture but they gave up their nomadic life and settled into village communities.


Israeli Tradition in Afghan Royal Family

Not only the Pathans, but also the Afghan Royal Family has a very well known tradition placing its origin in ancient Israel, they came from the Tribe of Benjamin.

This tradition was first published in 1635 in a book called Mahsan-I-Afghani and has often been mentioned in the research literature. According to this tradition, King Saul had a son called Jeremiah who had a son called Afghana. Jeremiah died at about the time of King Saul's death and Afghana was raised by King David and remained in the royal court during King Solomon's reign.

About 400 years later in the time of disorder of Israel, the Afghana family fled to a land called Gur which is in central Afghanistan. They settled and traded with the people of the area and in the year 662, with the arrival of Islam, the sons of Israel in Gur converted to the prophet with 7 representatives of the Afghan. The leader of the sons of Israel was Kish like the name of Saul's father.

According to this tradition Muhammed rewarded them and Kish's Hebrew name was changed to Arab-A-Rashid by Muhammad and was given the task of spreading Islam among his people. This is the roots of Afghan Royal Family.

So Afghan Royal Family has the tradition of ancient Israel - Benjamin Tribe of the Southern Kingdom of Judah.

Mystery of the Ten Lost Tribes (Moshiach.com)


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Around 722 BC, Israeli civil war and changing strategic interests forced Assyria to deport ten tribes to the east, towards Persia (Iran). A hundred years later, the Babylonians deported the remaining tribe of Yehudah and some Benjaminites to Babylon (Iraq). The Yehudah returned to Israel with the help of Cyrus the great of Persia, but the other ten tribes never retuned. The search for the “Ten tribes of Israel” is a very controversial issue because their descendants lost most of their Israelite traditions and do not possess the Talmud (Oral Torah similar to the hadith of the Muslims). Perhaps the focal point which has dissuaded Israelites from searching openly for their brethren is the Israelite civil war after King Solomon’s reign, which pitted Yehudah (Judah) against all the other tribes and eventually brought their collective downfall. Hence the descendants of the “Lost Tribes” have lived and spread in the lands east of Israel which are now known as Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Kashmir, India, Burma and even western China.

The Pakhtuns have been living in the Afghanistan area for over 2,000 years. Their language Pashto/Pakhto borrows widely from the Arab-ized Persian of their neighbors (now Iran), yet it was a purely spoken dialect. There was no Pakhto/Pashto written script whatsoever, the first Pashto book appearing about the 1500s. Hence the traditions, customs, tribal genealogy and law orally transferred from father to son. The first book on Pakhtun genealogy, the Makhzan-al-Afghani was written in 1613, and contained for the first time a printed table of descent from Abraham to the Pakhtun tribes, through the tribe of Binyamin. While the book was not accepted initially by British historians, modern historians consider it the most accurate account as compared to the other theories proposed by classical historians.

Speaking on this Zionism topic alone is quite interesting...the word "Zionist" is created from the mountains of Yerushalim which are called "Zion". Similarly the language of the Pathan tribesmen is called Pashto, and its speakers call themselves Pashtun, from the Persian word "Pasht" which means "back of the mountain" so in reality Pashtun is a person who lives in the mountains. The mountains the Pathan's have been living in after exile are called the Suleiman (Solomon) mountains. The Jews/ B'Ni Israel from Russia also call themselves Mountain Jews and are said to be from the same exile.

The word Pathan is a Pashto written form of the original word Pathan in DTorah (Divrei Hayomin/Kings 2), noting their ancestor from the line of Sarul ben Qish, the first King of Israel, who was King David's father in law.


Pakhtun Physical features: The Historians opinion

Racially, there is a considerable difference between the various Afghan tribes. The Pathans of Bajaur are closely related to the Kalashes of Citral, probably because they are to a large extent Afghanized Dards. On the other hand the broad-headed Pathans of Balochistan resemble their Baluch neighbors. In the plains of Peshawar there is some admixture of Indian blood, and among the Ghilzai tribe of Afghanistan there are traces of Turkish influence. But in general it may be said that the Afghans belong to the Irano-Afghan branch of the dolichocephalic Mediter*ranean race. The skull index is 72-75, and the average height 170 cm. (Hill tribe Pathans), and 163 cm. (Afghans of Afghanistan). The nose is prominent, frequently convex, of the "Semitic" type. Similar noses are found also among Balochis and Kashmiris. "The Afghans are usually brunets (black haired), but at the same time show a persistent minority of blondism, which may reflect some Nordic admixture. They are heavy-bearded".


A recent book by Dr. Azmat Hayat Khan sums up the physical characteristics:

“The Pathans of the hills are usually tall, fair skinned and have ivory complexions”.


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Kashmir was under direct control of the Durrani Afghan Empire in the 1800s, and the majority of the population there were the Yousufzai Pakhtuns who had moved eastward from Peshawar. They were living in Kashmir in great numbers, about 600,000 families who were later forcibly subdued for about 40 years by the Sikhs.

Dr. Bernier, A French traveler in the frontier villages of Kashmir around the 1880’s remarked on the striking physical similarity of the locals with Jews. He noted that their expressions and manners were distinguishable from the other people in this land. He finally adds that “You are not to ascribe what I say to mere fancy, the Jewish appearance of these villagers having been remarked by our Father, the Jesuit, and some other Europeans long before I visited Kashmir”.


Pakhtun Emotional Characteristics: Israeli history

Saul’s entire reign as the first King of the Beni Israel was marked by a religious tilt, and Israeli historians comment on his strict observance of religious obligations, as for instance in the case of Jonathan and the altar-stone of Aijalon, and in depicting him as possessed from time to time by the spirit of Jahweh. On his campaigns he took with him a priest who was expert in the use of the ephod, and did not fail to consult him. An entirely probable tradition relates that he prohibited those who consulted the dead and familiar spirits. If he condemned these practices, it must not be supposed that he considered them fraudulent; on the contrary, it was because he regarded the spirits of the dead and the spirits of the elohim as rivals of Jahweh, the sole God of Israel.

Saul’s intensely religious character is reflected in the Pakhtun tribes, which spawned the Taliban, the former regime of Afghanistan widely condemned for their ‘extreme’ interpretation of Islam.

Many historians have reconfirmed that the Pakhtuns are in no way a united people. They have many sub clans and are constantly feuding with each other. Nothing except the danger of a common enemy can unite them. This is a direct reference to the Beni Israel tribes which united under King Saul only to fight the common Philistine enemy. Israeli Jews today write in their own words “Israelis have long joked that the surest way to destroy the country is for the Arabs to give it peace. Then the tensions within Israeli society would pull it apart”.


Genetic Evidence:

The Kings of Israel married foreign non-Israelite women. David married Bathsheba and his son Solomon married the Queen of Sheeba, the Pharaoh’s daughter. Ahab married Jezebel, the daughter of the King of Tyre. After the exile and dispersion of the tribes of Israel, those who could not return started marrying local women after converting them. Hence their descendants partly resemble the Hebrews and partly their neighboring people. This may be the reason why there is such variation amongst the Pakhtun tribes, who are morally and physically distinguishable from each other, although most of them are heavy bearded with the “Semitic” convex nose.

A study was conducted at University College, London in 2002 concerning genetic tests on Jews from all over the world. The results were published in newspapers, the summary of which follows.

The men’s DNA originated in the Middle East, while the women’s mitochondrial DNA seems to indicate a local Diaspora origin. In simple words, most Jews married women of their host country after they were exiled from Israel about 2,500 years ago. This explains why Jewish communities now resemble the local population where they are living. The scientists described the results as 'very important'.

Genetic testing of Pathan tribesmen has been done of the Afridi of Malihabad in November 2002 by Dr Navras Jaat Aafreedi of Malihabad, India, and Tudor Parfitt, professor of modern Jewish studies at London's School of Oriental and African Studies. These studies confirm Israeli genetic evidence of Male haplotyope descent of the Pathan Afridi tribe from the Bni Israel tribes.


Israeli Customs

Generalizations about the Pakhtun tribes and their characteristics are like to be misleading because the various tribes live under different conditions and hence differ slightly from each other in their customs and habits. However, all of them agree to the “Beni Israel” theory as first proposed in the Makhzan-al-Afghani in 1613. They all speak the same language (Pushto/Pakhto), practice the same religion (Islam), have the same Pashtoonwali law and are known for their love of liberty and bravery. The reader must not forget that Israeli customs have been found amongst only a few tribes, most noticeably the Yousufzai (Pakhto for sons of Yousuf).

Since historians have called some Pakhtun tribes descendants of the “Ten lost tribes” of Israel, we need a correlation of current Pakhtun customs with those of the Beni Israel prior to 722 BC, when the Israelites were first deported by the Assyrians. Hence the best judges of “Israeli” customs would be the Jews (Yehudi) that have lived side by side with the Pakhtuns for hundreds of years, before they emigrated to Israel.



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I thought this Thread was about, Pakistan's Political Will "wavering" In Pakistan. :confused:
 
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Yeah... when more than 60% (roughly) people of your NWFP(Pakhtunkhawa) and Baluchistan consist of these Beni Israilis, where your politics stands... just around Punjab and Sindh...???

Its ok. You'll see it below as it continues.


Opinion of the Afghani Jews in Israel

The Amishav foundation was created in Israel by Rabbi Eliahu Avihail, its main purpose to reintroduce long-isolated Beni Israel communities into the mainstream rabbinic Judaism. During the 1980’s Avihail’s people began to scour the globe in the search for the remnants. In 1994, Amishav brought 57 members of the Beni Israel community of Manipur (Burma-India border) to the West Bank settlement of Kiriat Arba in Hebron (Al- Khalil).

Since Israel’s creation in 1948, about 4,123 Afghani Jews (practicing ones) migrated to Israel. Today nearly all the remaining Jews live near the synagogue on Charshi Torabazein Street, Kabul, Afghanistan.

Around the late 70’s Eliahu Avihail interviewed Yisrael Mishal, former President of the Afghani Jewish community in Afulah, Israel. Mr. Mishal gave examples of his meetings with Pathans who live on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border.

He said that the Pathan tribesmen identify themselves with their former name ‘sons of Israel’ (Beni Israel), even though nowadays they live as Muslims. In Afghanistan they are said to number six to seven million, and in Pakistan seven to eight million. Two million of them live as Bedouins. Outwardly, the Pathans are similar to the Jews.

From their ancient customs, one can point to a connection between the Pathans and the Jewish people. They make up about half of the population of Afghanistan, in the region that is now the NWFP province and part of the Balochistan province in Pakistan. Over ninety per cent of the inhabitants are Sunni Muslims. In their ancestral home in the Suleman Mountains, the Pathans continue to live in the tribal framework as their fathers and forefathers did. The legal system operates according to the “Pashtunwali", the unwritten Pashtun Laws, parts of which are similar to the laws of the Torah.

The British, who ruled Afghanistan for a long time, found it difficult to distinguish between the Pathans and the Jews, and called the Pathans ‘Juz’ - Jews. The Jews, too found it hard to distinguish between themselves and the Pathans when the latter are not wearing traditional dress. Afghanistan has about 21 peoples and languages and only the Pathans, apart from the Jews, look clearly Semitic; their skin color is lighter than that of other peoples and their nose is of the curved Semitic type. Since most of them grow beards and side-locks like Jews, this also adds difficulty to an attempt to distinguish between them and the Jews.


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Even though the Pathans accepted Islam voluntarily, they maintain Jewish customs preserved from the recesses of their past. The book contains considerable evidence taken from Jews of Afghanistan who lived in the neighborhoods of the Pathans and had contact with them. The evidence doesn’t relate to all the Pathans or to all the tribes and places. However, it does prove the existence of Israelite customs among the Pathans:


The Customs

Sidelocks (Payos): The sidelocks are never shaved.

Circumcision of male children: Done on the eighth day.

Talith (prayer shawl): worn as a shawl and used as a prayer mat.

Jewish wedding (Hupah and ring): A wedding canopy under which the groom and bridegroom sit. Some Pathans live with the Bride’s father, just as Prophet Jacob did.

Women’s customs (immersion in a river or spring): This is continued among the mountain dwelling tribes.

Levirate marriage (Yibum): An obligation for the Pathan to marry his brother’s widow and support the extended family.

Honoring the father: The son stands up when the father arrives in his presence.

Forbidden foods (horse and camel food): While most Muslims sacrifice camels at the time of Eid-ul-Azha, the Pathans never do so, and sacrifice only cows or goats.

Refraining from cooking meat and milk: This tradition has been reported to be followed among some Pathans.

Tradition of clean and unclean poultry, also known as halal / haram among muslims

Shabbat: preparation of 12 Hallah bread loaves, lighting a candle in honor of the Shabbat, refraining from work on Saturday.

Day of Atonement prayer (Yom Kippur): The book says that some of them pray turned in the direction of Jerusalem.

Blood on the threshold and on the two Mezzuzot (in times of plague or trouble): This custom is continued as when a Pathan house is created, the blood of the sacrificial animal is smeared on the door posts or the gate of the house.

Scapegoat: In the time of plague, a goat is released outside the town as it will carry the town’s disease away with it. This is an old Israelite custom.

Curing the ill with the help of the Book of Psalms by placing it under the patient’s head.

A Hebrew amulet (Kamia): This tradition continues amongst most Pathans.

The Custom of Tefillin: Wearing a box or pouch containing a verse of

Shema Israel, that is, "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one!" (Deuteronomy 6:4). This custom of Tefillin came from a verse of the

Scriptures, "You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes" (Deuteronomy 6:8). The pouch is usually placed over the heart region.

Hebrew names: Pathans make frequent use of Davud (David), Yousuf (Joseph), Yaqub (Jacob), Suleman (Solomon), Moosa (Moses) for their names and tribes, and the ancestral home of the tribes are the Suleman (Solomon) Mountains of Pakistan.

Holy Books: They honor the Torah, the Law of Moses. Pathan tribes such as Yousufzai have historical proof that they were in possession of the Torah, until the Holy books were forcibly or voluntarily taken from them by Persian Jews and Zoroastrians.

The code of revenge (badal) in the Pushtunwali code comes from the “An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth” law in the Torah of Moses. Just as the Americans say “There is no escape from death and taxes”, the pathans say “Death and revenge – always and forever”.

The “Star of David” symbol is found on almost every house, bus, school, tool and ornament in the Pathan city of Pehshawar, Pakistan. The rich Pathans make it out of expensive metals; the poor make it from simple wood.​

Recently, Shalwa Weil of Israel has done research on the Afghan-Pathan Jewish community in Israel and published her findings in the Jerusalem Post, excerpts of which are given below.

In 1935, a Jewish barber Gabriel Barukhoff traveled to Kabul and encountered nomadic Afghan Pathan tribesmen who claimed that they were descendants of the Children of Israel. In the early 1950s he told Israel’s second president, Yitzhak ben-Zvi, who was researching his book “The Exiled and the Redeemed,” that these tribesmen wore an embroidered Hanukkah lamp on their backs. He had heard that they had mezuzot on their doorposts, wrapped themselves in prayer shawls and lit candles on Friday night. When Barukoff cut their hair, they insisted on keeping their side curls.

"The old Afghan people living in the villages also claimed to be descended from Jews. My theory is that there was religious persecution in this area and they converted to Islam. A friend of mine, a big merchant who traveled around the towns told me that they found many gravestones with Jewish names in remote cemeteries."



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The Merewether Memorial Clock Tower is located at Karachi, Sindh, Pakistan. It was raised by public subscription as a memorial for Sir William L. Merewether, who served as 'Commissioner-in-Sindh' from 1867 to 1877. Designed by James Strachan, the Municipal Engineer, the foundation stone was laid by the Governor of Bombay, Sir James Fergusson in 1884.It was formally opened to the public in 1892 by the Commissioner in Sind, Sir Evan James.



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The opinion of Muslim Authors

There is no doubt about the usage of “Jewish” names by the Pakhtun/Pashtun tribes, and such names are also kept by Muslims around the world, but perhaps not with the frequency that the Pakhtuns utilize them. This is one reason that Muslim authors have given against the ‘Beni Israel’ theory.

But the Pakhtun’s follow peculiar customs like:


“Passover Practice” of sacrificing an animal and smearing the doorway to avert death and calamity

Placing the sins of the people upon a heifer or goat which is driven out in the wilderness in the manner of the biblical scapegoat

Stoning to death of blasphemers

Periodical distribution of land by lot

The rites of circumcision and purification

which were all given in the Book of Leviticus of the Beni Israel, and modern
Muslim historians like Dr. Azmat Hayat Khan accept them as indicators, if not proof of their Israelite heritage. They are the only tribes in the area to practice all of these customs, as the ancient Beni Israel did 2,300 years ago.

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If ALL above is so..... then story... does not end here.
 
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Nope. A pro-democracy writer and a great thinker. :azn:

What DEMOCRACY ?
ohh, "60 MILLION "in swiss accounts?
"SUREY PALACE" IN ENGLAND!
or "DUBAI PALACE"!
or"BILAWALL BHUTTO ZARADARI's parties in OXFORD"?
what "DEMOCRCY"?:lol::rofl::wave:
 
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What DEMOCRACY ?
ohh, "60 MILLION "in swiss accounts?
"SUREY PALACE" IN ENGLAND!
or "DUBAI PALACE"!
or"BILAWALL BHUTTO ZARADARI's parties in OXFORD"?
what "DEMOCRCY"?:lol::rofl::wave:
Oh, I’m sorry I thought you were talking about Irfan Husain. :rolleyes:

Look, I am not a fan of Zardari and I’m not here to defend him, but let’s face it, good or bad, he is a legitimately elected president, not like Musharraf who imposed himself on us through the barrel of a gun.

Btw, do you remember NRO?
 
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mr 786...what the heck have your posts got to do with the political will in Pakistan?

Are you an israeli troll???
 
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Mr. Irfan Husain complains endlessly about the army jack boot - for my money, the so called army jack boot should be up his you know what instead of his neck.

Mr. Husain's has no probem with the politicians using FIA against political opponents as Mr. Bhutto did, He has no problem with politicians using intelligence services against political opponents and ordinary Pakistanis, but somehow, all problems are laid at the feet of the patriotic armed forces of Pakistan.

These champaign socialists and their foot soldiers, the "council house" socialists who spend their lives in the UK and create for Pakistan utopian dreams, should simply spare ordinary Pakistanis and concentrate on the UK, and there create their socialist, Islamist, utopia.
 
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@ all the dear ones... Please let me complete. I said... the 'story' does not end there.

OK... I start from the last post and try to complete it.

Hope you'll get the right picture.



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After the above article was published in the San Jose Mercury on 23 June 1980, the Americans were
pressurized by the Jewish and Christian lobbies to send weapons and training to the Pathan freedom
fighters through Pakistan
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SOME OTHER FACTS
Below are the names/places common among the Pathans and the Bani-Israel.

1. Pathan
Pashtoons also known as Pathans.Very few people knows that Pithon is the name of the great-grandson of King Saul,mentioned among a list of hundreds of names chronicling the descendants of the Twelve Tribes (Ref:Chronicles I , 8:35)

2. AFGHANISTAN
Afghanistan is derived from "Afghana," the grandson of King Saul of the tribe of Benyameen (Benjamin). This Historical fact is also ignored by the “innocent” so called Western “Historians” (Now suddenly they deny this fact also)

3. kOHAT
City in the NWFP and also Meaning: assembly in Hebrew is the second son of Levi, and father of Amram (Gen. 46:11) He came down to Egypt with Jacob, and lived to the age of one hundred and thirty-three years (Ex. 6:18).Note: The so called great Western Historians also skipped this important fact in their writings just to conceal the truth.

4. ZABUL
Zabul was the name of the Son or grandson of Yaqub (as)(Israel) and also it’s the name province in Afghanistan.The fact is during the time Mahmud Ghaznavi,the whole of Afghanistan was called as ZABUL as famous poet FIRDAUSI called Mahmud as SHAH-E-ZABUL i.e King of Zabul.(Also this is ignored by the Wicked Historians of the West)

5.KHYBER
A fort of Jews during the time of Dear Prophet Muhammad(sallalaho alay hay wa sallam) near Madina...and also a place on Pakistan and Afghanistan border which also has the same meaning as that of Hebrew i.e Fort.

6. PESHAWER
This city in NWFP province of Pakistan has its name and location present in the Torah, a place called HABER or HAWER is mentioned as the place of exile of the lost tribes.Now Peshawer is comprised of two parts,the word Pesh means the Pass( which can be the famous Khyber Pass) and the Hawer means city and thus PESHAWAR means the city after the pass . Ref: (Kings II,17 and 18; Chronicles 1,5). Also check in Chronicles 5:26 at 1 Chronicles 5:26 So the God of Israel stirred up the spirit of

7. GOZAN
(The Amu Darya):Also Gozan is mentioned in as the place of exile of the lost tribe. In Afghanistan the river Amu was also called River Gozan according to Afghani tradition. Therefore Historian Saadia Gaon called the Amu darya al the place of exile of the lost tribe. Ref: (Kings II,17 and 18; Chronicles 1,5). Also check in Chronicles 5:26 at 1 Chronicles 5:26 So the God of Israel stirred up the spirit of

8.CHILDERN OF JOSEPH
Yusufzai a pashtoon tribe claim to be the decendant of Joseph(Yusuf) i.e Prophet of Bani Israel.

9. AFRIDIS
This famous tribe of Pashtoons is named after the son of Yaqub (as) (Israel) called Ephraim or Afraim.

10. KARAK
This is a city in Jordon(formally part of ancient Jewish state and also its a city in NWFP province of Pakistan.

11. LUGAR
A province in Afghanistan and also a name of present day Israeli family name, not to forget the famous wrestler LEX LUGAR.

12. KABUL
Kabul is capital of Afghanistan and its a Hebrew word .Cab means unpleasant(or dirty) and bul means city meaning unpleasant city.

13. KHAN
Most Pathans use KHAN in their names which resembles COHEN used in Jewish names.Also in Israel there is a city called YOUNUS KHAN with the word KHAN in it.

14. TAKHT-E-SULEAMAN (Thorn of King Solomon)
This is the name of a place in the Pashtun area of Pakistan .It means the Throne of Solayman, King and also the Prophet Hazart Suleman (Alayhay Salam). This place is situated in the mountain ranges also named after King Solomon (Hazrat Suleman) as Koh-e-Suleman.

15. HARAT
Also a place called HARA is mentioned in as the place of exile of the lost tribes and HARAT is a famous city in Afghanistan. Ref: (Kings II,17 and 18; Chronicles 1,5). Also check in Chronicles 5:26 at 1 Chronicles 5:26 So the God of Israel stirred up the spirit of

Hujrah.com اسلام حجرة :: View topic - Pathans not Aryans but from the Lost tribes of Israel


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Pakistan summons US envoy over airstrikes :tup:

ISLAMABAD: The Foreign Office on Wednesday summoned US Ambassador Anne Patterson and lodged a strong protest against continued attacks by US drones inside Pakistani territory. “The US ambassador was called to the Foreign Office today and a strong protest was lodged against the continued missile attacks by US drones inside Pakistani territory,” a Foreign Office spokesperson said.

Patterson was told Pakistan strongly condemned the missile attacks, which resulted in the loss of lives and property. The Foreign Office said such attacks were a violation of Pakistan’s sovereignty and should be stopped immediately. Pakistan said the US attacks undermined public support for the government’s anti-terrorism efforts. A copy of the resolution adopted by the Senate on October 27 condemning the attacks was also handed to the ambassador. sajjad malik
 
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Ever heard about Dajjal....??? Yes most of us. I think it was discussed in this forum too.
Ok here are some of the Hadiths of the Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) just to remind.


Hadith - Muslim #7015, Narrated An-Nawwas ibn Sam'an (may Allah be pleased with him)

Allah's Apostle(peace be upon him) mentioned of the Dajjal one day in the morning. He sometimes described him as insignificant and sometimes described (his turmoil) as very significant (and we felt) as if he were in the cluster of the date-palm trees. When we went to him (to the Holy Prophet) in the evening and he read (the signs of fear) on our faces, he said: What is the matter with you?
We said: Allah's Apostle(peace be upon him) you mentioned the Dajjal this morning (sometimes describing him) as insignificant and sometimes very important, until we began to think he was present in some (nearly) part of the cluster of the date-palm trees.
So he said: I harbour fear in regard to you in so many other things besides the Dajjal. If he comes forth while I am among you, I shall contend with him on your behalf, but if he comes forth while I am not among you, a man must contend on his own behalf and Allah will take care of every Muslim on my behalf (and safeguard him against his evil). He (the Dajjal) will be a young man with twisted, cropped hair, and a blind eye. I compare him with AbdulUzza ibn Qatan. He who among you will survive to see him should recite over him the opening verses of Surah al-Kahf (xviii). He will appear on the way between Syria and Iraq and will spread mischief right and left. O servant of Allah! Adhere (to the path of Truth).


Hadith - Muslim #7034, Narrated Anas ibn Malik(may Allah be pleased with him

Allah's Apostle said: The Dajjal would be followed by seventy thousand Jews of Isfahan wearing Persian shawls.


Now... who knows about Mullah Umer ( The Ameer ul Momineen ).

See some facts about him.

The signs of Dajjal are exactly match with Mulah Umer .No one in the history ever matched these sign

1-Dajjal would have one eye ... Mullah Umer has one eye only

2-Dajjal would have problem in one leg --Mullah Umer has only one leg

3-Dajjal will born in Khurasan -Mullah umer born in khurasan (area in afshanistan and Iran)

4-Dajjal will claim as prophet then later God -Mullah umer has claimed khalifa may be later he would claim other powers

5-Dajjal would have fake hell and fake jannah ,his jannah will be hell and his hell will be jannah ------ Mullah Umer is making suicide bombers and claming that they will go to jannah (which is Haram in Islam ) actually is the hell .Mullah Umer Jannat is their so called shariah with who ever follow his shariah his life comes hell .

All muslim recite first and last 10 ayaat of Surah Kahaf to keep away from Dajjal

Some others signs of Dajjal

• Hadhrat Huzaifah (R.A.) says, Dajjal will be blind in his left eye. He will have very thick hair on his body and he will also have his own type of Jannat (Heaven) and Jahannam (Hell) with him: Although his Jannat will appear as Jannat, in reality it will be Jahannam and likewise though his Jahannam will appear to be Jahannam, in reality it will be Jannat.
(Hadith: Muslim)

• He will emerge between Shaam and Iraq, and his emergence will become known when he is in Isfahaan at a place called Yahudea.

• Apart from having mainly Yahudi followers, he will have a great number of women followers as well.

• Those who obey him will enter "his Jannat" while those who disobey him will enter "his Jahannam."
There will be a thick fingernail-like object in his left eye.

•The letters "Kaa" "Faa" "Raa" will appear on his forehead and will be deciphered by all Muslims regardless of them being literate or not.

• He will have a whitish complexion and will be very irritable.

• He will travel at great speeds and his means of conveyance will be a gigantic mule. It is said that he will play beautiful music which will attract the music lovers.

• Dajjal will lay claim to prophet hood.

• He will then lay claim to Divinity.

• He will perform unusual feats.

• He will travel the entire world.

• He will send down rains upon those who believe in him, which in turn will cause good crops to grow, trees to bear fruit and cattle to grow fat.
He will cause drought to those who disbelieve in him, resulting in starvation and hardship for them.

During those trying times the Mu'mineen will satiate their hunger through the recitation of Subhanallah and La'ilaha Ilallahu.
The hidden treasures will spill forth at his command. He will stay on this Earth for a period of forty days; the length of the first day will be one year, the second day will be equal to one month, the third day will be equal to a week and the remaining days will be normal.

He will be unable to enter Makkah because the Malaikah will be guarding the Holy City and nor will he be able to enter Madina because there will be Malaikah guarding each of the seven entrances to Madina; From Medina he will proceed towards Shaam where Imam Mahdi will be stationed.
Finally Isa (A.S.) will descend from the heavens and pursue him and eventually kill him at present day Lydda (Baad Lud).

Mullah Umer Signs

• Mullah Umer has one eye.He has thick hair ,he claims that who ever blast himself will go to jannat actully he will go to jahannum.

• Mullah Umer born just beside that area

• Afghan history shows that afghans are belong to Bani Israel Tribes even Jews claim that Afghans have jew roots.

• Many Women also follow their philosiphy .Like happened in LAl Masjid and Sawat

• Mullah Umer has one eye and one leg.He always hide his forehead.

• Not yet seen Kafir sign .Mullah Umer always hide his face

• Mullah Umer has weatich complex.

• Mullah Umer already clamed as Kahlifa.

• There are several storied among taliban about his feats.​

Chowk: Religion: dajjal -Jew and Afghan


After enormous bloodshed of Muslims, why US Govt. is negotiating with Taliban...??? Why do they not make the job done.

Just to let Dajjal flourish.

Mullah Umer is really Dajjal or not, time will prove it. But Dajjal's system already exists... and THEY all are nourishing that system. After destroying and occuping Iraq and Afghanistan, they turned to Pakistan. Now they are knowcking doors of Syria.

Many 'simple' Muslims are trapped in Dajjal's illusions in search of serving Islam. Pakistan has dual problems... to deal with these trapped people and the US itself. Our forces are REALLY writing a history.

Secondly, Pakhtoons are really brave and patriotic people. A big majority of them is in Pak Army. We have a very dear one Jana here:). These tribesmen are getting united to fix these culprits.


There are some links about US and Taliban/Al Qaeda relations. I'll post them soon.(IA)
 
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ASIA PACIFIC

Date Posted: 29-Oct-2008

Jane's Defence Weekly

Pakistan to arm tribal militias in fight against Taliban

Trefor Moss JDW Asia-Pacific Editor - London

Key Points
Pakistani officials have announced plans to arm tribal militia with new weapons bought from China

Such a move would spell civil war in the tribal areas, one commentator has warned


Pakistan is to supply local militias in its Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) with new Chinese weaponry in a bid to help FATA tribesmen allied with the government to fight militant groups.

The decision to arm the militias, or lashkars, was announced by Pakistani government officials in Washington, who said that Chinese AK-47s and other arms would be given to the FATA's estimated 25,000 militiamen to enable them to combat the more heavily armed Taliban fighters.

The 24 October announcement came shortly after the two houses of parliament in Islamabad jointly approved a 14-point resolution calling for a review of the country's security strategy that would place the emphasis firmly on dialogue rather than military action.

The plan, however, made no mention of arming the lashkars and officials in Pakistan said they knew nothing of that decision. A Pakistani military spokesman also told Jane's that he was unaware of the plan. US officials tentatively welcomed the move amid hopes that the Anbar Awakening - in which Iraqis organised themselves against Al-Qaeda militants and brought relative peace to Anbar province in Iraq - could be replicated in the FATA.

However, Ahmed Rashid, the author of Taliban and Descent Into Chaos , told Jane's that he was "shocked" by the revelation that the lashkars were being armed. "It never once came up in the parliamentary debate," he said. "It shows you how disjointed the whole thing is - there has been no real discussion of the strategy. It's hugely negative. The Pakistan border regions aren't anything like Anbar province. This will prompt a civil war in the tribal areas. It's an utter disaster."

A willingness on the part of some of the FATA tribes to fight the militants was demonstrated on 26 October when members of a lashkar in Swat - where the Pakistani Army has been engaged in heavy fighting with Taliban-aligned insurgents - prevented a group of militants from abducting a tribal leader. Hundreds of Taliban fighters then reportedly returned to the village and publicly beheaded one of the militiamen as punishment, prompting a day-long battle with the lashkar in which more than 40 people were reported killed, many of them Taliban.

In the FATA's Bajaur agency, the Pakistani Army's other main area of operations against the Taliban, there has also been recent success in engaging the help of local lashkars. The Salarzai, Bajaur's largest tribe, has aligned itself with the government. Salarzai elders said during a press conference on 26 October that they opposed peace talks with the Taliban and insisted they would fight to expel militants from Bajaur and defend their homes.

© 2008 Jane's Information Group
 
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Ever heard about Dajjal....??? Yes most of us. I think it was discussed in this forum too.
Ok here are some of the Hadiths of the Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) just to remind.


Hadith - Muslim #7015, Narrated An-Nawwas ibn Sam'an (may Allah be pleased with him)

Allah's Apostle(peace be upon him) mentioned of the Dajjal one day in the morning. He sometimes described him as insignificant and sometimes described (his turmoil) as very significant (and we felt) as if he were in the cluster of the date-palm trees. When we went to him (to the Holy Prophet) in the evening and he read (the signs of fear) on our faces, he said: What is the matter with you?
We said: Allah's Apostle(peace be upon him) you mentioned the Dajjal this morning (sometimes describing him) as insignificant and sometimes very important, until we began to think he was present in some (nearly) part of the cluster of the date-palm trees.
So he said: I harbour fear in regard to you in so many other things besides the Dajjal. If he comes forth while I am among you, I shall contend with him on your behalf, but if he comes forth while I am not among you, a man must contend on his own behalf and Allah will take care of every Muslim on my behalf (and safeguard him against his evil). He (the Dajjal) will be a young man with twisted, cropped hair, and a blind eye. I compare him with AbdulUzza ibn Qatan. He who among you will survive to see him should recite over him the opening verses of Surah al-Kahf (xviii). He will appear on the way between Syria and Iraq and will spread mischief right and left. O servant of Allah! Adhere (to the path of Truth).


Hadith - Muslim #7034, Narrated Anas ibn Malik(may Allah be pleased with him

Allah's Apostle said: The Dajjal would be followed by seventy thousand Jews of Isfahan wearing Persian shawls.


Now... who knows about Mullah Umer ( The Ameer ul Momineen ).

See some facts about him.

The signs of Dajjal are exactly match with Mulah Umer .No one in the history ever matched these sign

1-Dajjal would have one eye ... Mullah Umer has one eye only

2-Dajjal would have problem in one leg --Mullah Umer has only one leg

3-Dajjal will born in Khurasan -Mullah umer born in khurasan (area in afshanistan and Iran)

4-Dajjal will claim as prophet then later God -Mullah umer has claimed khalifa may be later he would claim other powers

5-Dajjal would have fake hell and fake jannah ,his jannah will be hell and his hell will be jannah ------ Mullah Umer is making suicide bombers and claming that they will go to jannah (which is Haram in Islam ) actually is the hell .Mullah Umer Jannat is their so called shariah with who ever follow his shariah his life comes hell .

All muslim recite first and last 10 ayaat of Surah Kahaf to keep away from Dajjal

Some others signs of Dajjal

• Hadhrat Huzaifah (R.A.) says, Dajjal will be blind in his left eye. He will have very thick hair on his body and he will also have his own type of Jannat (Heaven) and Jahannam (Hell) with him: Although his Jannat will appear as Jannat, in reality it will be Jahannam and likewise though his Jahannam will appear to be Jahannam, in reality it will be Jannat.
(Hadith: Muslim)

• He will emerge between Shaam and Iraq, and his emergence will become known when he is in Isfahaan at a place called Yahudea.

• Apart from having mainly Yahudi followers, he will have a great number of women followers as well.

• Those who obey him will enter "his Jannat" while those who disobey him will enter "his Jahannam."
There will be a thick fingernail-like object in his left eye.

•The letters "Kaa" "Faa" "Raa" will appear on his forehead and will be deciphered by all Muslims regardless of them being literate or not.

• He will have a whitish complexion and will be very irritable.

• He will travel at great speeds and his means of conveyance will be a gigantic mule. It is said that he will play beautiful music which will attract the music lovers.

• Dajjal will lay claim to prophet hood.

• He will then lay claim to Divinity.

• He will perform unusual feats.

• He will travel the entire world.

• He will send down rains upon those who believe in him, which in turn will cause good crops to grow, trees to bear fruit and cattle to grow fat.
He will cause drought to those who disbelieve in him, resulting in starvation and hardship for them.

During those trying times the Mu'mineen will satiate their hunger through the recitation of Subhanallah and La'ilaha Ilallahu.
The hidden treasures will spill forth at his command. He will stay on this Earth for a period of forty days; the length of the first day will be one year, the second day will be equal to one month, the third day will be equal to a week and the remaining days will be normal.

He will be unable to enter Makkah because the Malaikah will be guarding the Holy City and nor will he be able to enter Madina because there will be Malaikah guarding each of the seven entrances to Madina; From Medina he will proceed towards Shaam where Imam Mahdi will be stationed.
Finally Isa (A.S.) will descend from the heavens and pursue him and eventually kill him at present day Lydda (Baad Lud).

Mullah Umer Signs

• Mullah Umer has one eye.He has thick hair ,he claims that who ever blast himself will go to jannat actully he will go to jahannum.

• Mullah Umer born just beside that area

• Afghan history shows that afghans are belong to Bani Israel Tribes even Jews claim that Afghans have jew roots.

• Many Women also follow their philosiphy .Like happened in LAl Masjid and Sawat

• Mullah Umer has one eye and one leg.He always hide his forehead.

• Not yet seen Kafir sign .Mullah Umer always hide his face

• Mullah Umer has weatich complex.

• Mullah Umer already clamed as Kahlifa.

• There are several storied among taliban about his feats.​

Chowk: Religion: dajjal -Jew and Afghan


After enormous bloodshed of Muslims, why US Govt. is negotiating with Taliban...??? Why do they not make the job done.

Just to let Dajjal flourish.

Mullah Umer is really Dajjal or not, time will prove it. But Dajjal's system already exists... and THEY all are nourishing that system. After destroying and occuping Iraq and Afghanistan, they turned to Pakistan. Now they are knowcking doors of Syria.

Many 'simple' Muslims are trapped in Dajjal's illusions in search of serving Islam. Pakistan has dual problems... to deal with these trapped people and the US itself. Our forces are REALLY writing a history.

Secondly, Pakhtoons are really brave and patriotic people. A big majority of them is in Pak Army. We have a very dear one Jana here:). These tribesmen are getting united to fix these culprits.


There are some links about US and Taliban/Al Qaeda relations. I'll post them soon.(IA)


Fruit Cake Alert!!! Fruit Cake Alert!!!

Somebody just escaped from the loony bin.

Two mentally disadvantaged people, in this fruit cake and warraich have taken over this thread. Where did I put that cyanide bottle?
 
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Fruit Cake Alert!!! Fruit Cake Alert!!!

Somebody just escaped from the loony bin.

Two mentally disadvantaged people, in this fruit cake and warraich have taken over this thread. Where did I put that cyanide bottle?
:lol:........
 
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