Pakistan’s Muslim solidarity disappears

[haidian]

Well, when you are calling someone or something a 'shameless lie' to the point that it should not even be open to discussion, you better have your own facts in order.

A typo is surely different from a vicious shameless lie, if that whole article was a typo I won't call it like that.

 

[Dalai Lama]

Re education camp was long but history and it depends on how you define anti government, if for talking, just in case you don't know, making fun of the government is the most popular pastime on Chinese social media. China is a safe and stable country where citizens of different racial and cultural background enjoy equal rights and benefits, I can't say that for India.

Re-education is a small price to pay for greater stability, progress and societal welfare.

The Kashmir separatists can't really be compared to Uyghur separatists as there is no third party involved in Uyghur adding fuel to fire.

 

[WarKa DaNG]

Another asshole obsessed with Pakistan

 

[Hamza913]

• Published at 12:30 pm July 19th, 2018

The crackdown continues / REUTERS
On the issue of China’s Uighur people, all are silent

Pakistan is an Islamic Republic, and over the last decades, its polity has become increasingly religious in its character.

Religious rhetoric has long motivated the more extreme edges of the political discourse, but more and more of the political discourse in the country has become driven by religious identity politics -- and conservative Sunni traditionalism has been the most politically outspoken of those religious identities.

The other most significant and consistent political development in Pakistan over the last decade or so has been the flourishing friendship with neighbouring China.

As an emerging global power, China is using its immense economic might to develop the trade links on which its prosperity depends.

And part of those efforts are the huge investments China is making in developing the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor.

The Chinese friendship is a remarkable aspect of Pakistani politics for at least two reasons: 1) It is one of the few issues on which most of this deeply divided country can agree on, and virtually all think it is a good thing for Pakistan; and 2) Chinese investment has done, is doing, and will continue to do more to improve the economic situation of ordinary Pakistani citizens than just about anything the Pakistani government themselves are doing -- that Pakistanis see China in a positive light is therefore no surprise.

And yet, there is something very peculiar about this friendship: The Chinese government is virulently anti-Muslim, at least as far as Islam within its borders is concerned. Here I speak of the familiar troubles of the Sunni Uighur people in the Xinjiang province.

Even as we speak, the Chinese crackdown on Islam in the name of anti-separatism is seeing maybe as many as one million Muslims arbitrarily detained in “re-education camps” -- out of 10-11 million Uighurs in total in the province.

Uighur newborns may not have “Muslim names,” and the authorities were even pressuring Muslims to show their loyalty toward the Chinese state by eating pork and drinking alcohol during Ramadan last year.

Typically outspoken

The Pakistani government, as well as the Pakistani people, are typically very outspoken when Muslims around the world are persecuted.

The poor relations with India are supposedly because of the way India is treating Muslims in Kashmir, or how Muslims have been attacked by mobs of Hindu nationalists in recent months.

Pakistanis will not waste a second criticizing Myanmar for their appalling treatment of the Rohingya -- and rightly so. The cause of the Palestinians is loudly proclaimed, as are those of Chechens, Bosniaks, and Albanians. But on the Uighurs, all are silent.

So what about Muslim solidarity? Muslim solidarity certainly makes for a good and popular slogan for political leaders. And the people are all in favour of solidarity, so long as this requires little sacrifice on their part.

But when more than kind words are needed, well, things get complicated. The 350,000 Rohingya living in Pakistan may not be under immediate threat to their safety, but they have not been integrated in Pakistani society, and continue to be actively marginalized.

We are all for Palestinians, Chechens, or any other Muslim groups around the world, just so long as we do not have to give them refuge, or significant amount of aid. As for the Uighurs next door? Well, let us not upset our “all weather” Chinese friends.

What the Chinese government is doing to the Uighurs is no doubt a gross humanitarian abuse. And it is not just for Pakistan, but the entire international community to draw attention to it and to criticize it.

We even have a duty to do so to our Chinese friends in the spirit of friendship: We know from our own experience that oppressed Muslims sometimes tend to make for radicalized Muslims, and that is not good for China, not good for us, and not good for anybody.

But I do understand the reticence to take up this issue. China does not usually take advice on human rights well, even when it is well-intentioned and friendly in spirit.

But if that is the political judgment we are going to make, then let us not pretend that Muslim solidarity is all that important for us. At the very least, it seems that Chinese Yuan are more important.

But really, we all know Muslim solidarity is great just so long as it does not cost us anything in general. Pakistan may have started as a country of refuge for Muslims across the region, but Muslim solidarity is something we have stopped actually caring about long ago.

Now it is but an empty political ritual for sale. But woe to anyone who would say as much, or question our Muslim purity.

Azeem Ibrahim is Senior Fellow at the Centre for Global Policy and Adj Research Professor at the Strategic Studies Institute, US Army War College. He tweets @AzeemIbrahim.

https://www.dhakatribune.com/opinion/op-ed/2018/07/19/pakistan-s-muslim-solidarity-disappears

1. A lot of false reporting occurs about the Uighur situation

2. I agree, the Pakistani government (like every so called Muslim government) is very selective with who they show solidarity to. However, Pakistanis are not. Most of us will criticise all who harm innocent Muslims.

 

[haidian]

1. A lot of false reporting occurs about the Uighur situation

2. I agree, the Pakistani government (like every so called Muslim government) is very selective with who they show solidarity to. However, Pakistanis are not. Most of us will criticise all who harm innocent Muslims.

Why China needs to harm innocent Muslims? What does it get China? Anyone with a common sense can see that China has no reason to do it.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Why showing solidarity with other Muslims only Pakistani Muslims job why not Indian Muslim try to liberate Ughayr region with the help of mighty Indian army?
Ughayrs are Chinese citizens and some of them adopted extremism which should not be allowed at any cost.

 

[American Pakistani]

Bangladeshi paper talking about Muslim solidarity, how "shu-eat".

Goes to show how obsessed that place is.

 

[Skull and Bones]

I wholeheartedly support China in this matter. Nothing should be allowed to threaten national security. We need to implement similar measures in Kashmir.

 

[haidian]

I wholeheartedly support China in this matter. Nothing should be allowed to threaten national security. We need to implement similar measures in Kashmir.

Kashmir is international disputed land shown on every map, Xinjiang is part of China which is never disputed by any government, they are completely different issues. Xinjiang may have some radical elements but has never had a nationwide uprsing that is seen every day in India controlled Kashmir, most Uighurs stand solidarity with the government and most police fighting those radicals are ethnic Uighurs themsevles.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

• Published at 12:30 pm July 19th, 2018

The crackdown continues / REUTERS
On the issue of China’s Uighur people, all are silent

Pakistan is an Islamic Republic, and over the last decades, its polity has become increasingly religious in its character.

Religious rhetoric has long motivated the more extreme edges of the political discourse, but more and more of the political discourse in the country has become driven by religious identity politics -- and conservative Sunni traditionalism has been the most politically outspoken of those religious identities.

The other most significant and consistent political development in Pakistan over the last decade or so has been the flourishing friendship with neighbouring China.

As an emerging global power, China is using its immense economic might to develop the trade links on which its prosperity depends.

And part of those efforts are the huge investments China is making in developing the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor.

The Chinese friendship is a remarkable aspect of Pakistani politics for at least two reasons: 1) It is one of the few issues on which most of this deeply divided country can agree on, and virtually all think it is a good thing for Pakistan; and 2) Chinese investment has done, is doing, and will continue to do more to improve the economic situation of ordinary Pakistani citizens than just about anything the Pakistani government themselves are doing -- that Pakistanis see China in a positive light is therefore no surprise.

And yet, there is something very peculiar about this friendship: The Chinese government is virulently anti-Muslim, at least as far as Islam within its borders is concerned. Here I speak of the familiar troubles of the Sunni Uighur people in the Xinjiang province.

Even as we speak, the Chinese crackdown on Islam in the name of anti-separatism is seeing maybe as many as one million Muslims arbitrarily detained in “re-education camps” -- out of 10-11 million Uighurs in total in the province.

Uighur newborns may not have “Muslim names,” and the authorities were even pressuring Muslims to show their loyalty toward the Chinese state by eating pork and drinking alcohol during Ramadan last year.

Typically outspoken

The Pakistani government, as well as the Pakistani people, are typically very outspoken when Muslims around the world are persecuted.

The poor relations with India are supposedly because of the way India is treating Muslims in Kashmir, or how Muslims have been attacked by mobs of Hindu nationalists in recent months.

Pakistanis will not waste a second criticizing Myanmar for their appalling treatment of the Rohingya -- and rightly so. The cause of the Palestinians is loudly proclaimed, as are those of Chechens, Bosniaks, and Albanians. But on the Uighurs, all are silent.

So what about Muslim solidarity? Muslim solidarity certainly makes for a good and popular slogan for political leaders. And the people are all in favour of solidarity, so long as this requires little sacrifice on their part.

But when more than kind words are needed, well, things get complicated. The 350,000 Rohingya living in Pakistan may not be under immediate threat to their safety, but they have not been integrated in Pakistani society, and continue to be actively marginalized.

We are all for Palestinians, Chechens, or any other Muslim groups around the world, just so long as we do not have to give them refuge, or significant amount of aid. As for the Uighurs next door? Well, let us not upset our “all weather” Chinese friends.

What the Chinese government is doing to the Uighurs is no doubt a gross humanitarian abuse. And it is not just for Pakistan, but the entire international community to draw attention to it and to criticize it.

We even have a duty to do so to our Chinese friends in the spirit of friendship: We know from our own experience that oppressed Muslims sometimes tend to make for radicalized Muslims, and that is not good for China, not good for us, and not good for anybody.

But I do understand the reticence to take up this issue. China does not usually take advice on human rights well, even when it is well-intentioned and friendly in spirit.

But if that is the political judgment we are going to make, then let us not pretend that Muslim solidarity is all that important for us. At the very least, it seems that Chinese Yuan are more important.

But really, we all know Muslim solidarity is great just so long as it does not cost us anything in general. Pakistan may have started as a country of refuge for Muslims across the region, but Muslim solidarity is something we have stopped actually caring about long ago.

Now it is but an empty political ritual for sale. But woe to anyone who would say as much, or question our Muslim purity.

Azeem Ibrahim is Senior Fellow at the Centre for Global Policy and Adj Research Professor at the Strategic Studies Institute, US Army War College. He tweets @AzeemIbrahim.

https://www.dhakatribune.com/opinion/op-ed/2018/07/19/pakistan-s-muslim-solidarity-disappears

Says a bangladeshi....... ............so it's only Pakistan's duty to look after and care about the issues affecting Muslims globally. bangladeshis, indian so called "Muslims", Arabs etc are all absolved of this duty. Excellent hypocrisy.

 

[HariPrasad]

Muslms are fighting among themselves since the beginning of Islam. Muslim brotherhood is the most fake and deceptive concept. In Islamic world it is used as a political tool to unite for convience.

 

[El Sidd]

Ell O Ell

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Muslms are fighting among themselves since the beginning of Islam. Muslim brotherhood is the most fake and deceptive concept. In Islamic world it is used as a political tool to unite for convience.

And someone who belongs to the race and nation that has an abnormally obsessive hatred of Muslims is in NO position to comment on such matters. It's not your prerogative to do so.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

we simply dont care of anyone . there are few nut cases whom cry river . i wish indian muslims got more punishment because they deserve it

Will you please tell this to stalwarts like @AfrazulMandal and what was his name Zubair Qasit or something?

@El Sidd

They won't listen to us.

 

[Offshore]

after this happened, you don't expect Beijing do nothing

your beloved brother