Pakistan's Latest Ruling Makes Us Want To Bang Our Heads On The Table And Weep

[Rajaraja Chola]

Apparently those who worship judges think judges are only there to say some ruling and not do their work

But the system. Honest Judges have been targetted in the past. Does the system protect them is the most pressing question, I feel .

When you remove the fear factor of Judges, Pakistan is going to have judges who start questioning the Parliament.

 

[al_asad_al_mulk]

@Akheilos
I genuinely thought you are so thats why i think a woman can't bear situation or news like that
I am sorry if i offended you

 

[Dubious]

rooted in Islamic Law?

prove to me what you say has an ounce of weight if not quit acting like a metric drop out!

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

But what if the SC judges the law to be correct given that it is rooted in Islamic Law? Then the nation must accept the verdicts.

The same. Put the ball in govt court. Its the Parliament which have the power to make and remove laws.
Its the duty of politicians to bring a change, and also the women's of Pakistan are required to hit the streets often to make about a change.

 

[Dubious]

But the system. Honest Judges have been targetted in the past. Does the system protect them is the most pressing question, I feel .

System doesnt protect ANYONE who DARES to try and change it!

When you remove the fear factor of Judges, Pakistan is going to have judges who start questioning the Parliament.

Well most of the judges are prob linked to the parliament in 1 way or the other!

I find the sitting lawyers and judges a curse on Pakistan...Neither does their work nor lives up to the oath they take!

politicians to bring a change

Joke of the century!

women's of Pakistan are required to hit the streets often to make about a change.

Well many are not educated enough to know their rights others cant coz they know they will be further ridiculed or abused...

 

[VCheng]

The same. Put the ball in govt court. Its the Parliament which have the power to make and remove laws.
Its the duty of politicians to bring a change, and also the women's of Pakistan are required to hit the streets often to make about a change.

Of course, that is what I said in the very beginning. The judges cannot be vilified for following the law. It is up to the legislators to make and amend laws.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

System doesnt protect ANYONE who DARES to try and change it!


Well most of the judges are prob linked to the parliament in 1 way or the other!

I find the sitting lawyers and judges a curse on Pakistan...Neither does their work nor lives up to the oath they take!


Joke of the century!



Well many are not educated enough to know their rights others cant coz they know they will be further ridiculed or abused...

I do not expect a change to happen so drastic in South Asia. We people are so rooted in culture etc. Slowly the change has to happen. Maybe in 15-20 years, the womens in Pakistan will start questioning, get educated, question the law, hit the streets and have the law changed.
Hope.

 

[Dubious]

The judges cannot be vilified for following the law.

But they can be for not taking it up the ladder! If they dont realize there is a problem and dont initiate the process then they should be "vilified" coz they didnt do their "work"

 

[VCheng]

It is NOT up to the judges to make the laws.

 

[Paksanity]

@A.M.
@xyxmt
People siding this are missing these points even after highlighting them, you people cant read?

So a mother cant protect her child from a pedophile ex husband or one who abuses her child?


Continue reading and you will find this



The emphasis is on the behaviour of the courts and the shitty verdicts they churn!

Calm down ma'am, it's not how article depicts. Courts take into account circumstances and other factors before making such rulings. Young children almost invariably handed over to mothers unless other party can prove beyond doubts that environment she will provide is not conducive for child upbringing (like prostitution, drugs etc). Father gets the right to visit his children. Once grown up, kids can make their decisions. I'm personally aware of court case where children were handed over to mothers and Father lost his right to participate in their upbringing other than contributing money.

Case under discussion is not clear to us. It will be wrong to make assumptions based on this article which is sufficiently biased. If one has access to court proceedings (and you can get them btw) then you will have a clear picture. There have been cases where UK and other foreign mom's fought in our courts and won custody of their kids who were brought here by their Pakistani fathers.

Bashing third world countries sells in western press, you know. Gathering all facts is something else.

 

[Dubious]

Courts take into account circumstances and other factors before making such rulings.

Then why does it state

whatever the circumstances.

Young children almost invariably handed over to mothers unless other party can prove beyond doubts that environment she will provide is not conducive for child upbringing (like prostitution, drugs etc). Father gets the right to visit his children.

I have no problem with this....

My problem is solely with 2 things....courts and their sleepy heads called judges and lawyers AND this statement:

Pakistani women cannot keep their children away from their fathers following a divorce, whatever the circumstances.

The right to protect a child from a predator parent!

Case under discussion is not clear to us. It will be wrong to make assumptions based on this article which is sufficiently biased. If one has access to court proceedings (and you can get them btw) then you will have a clear picture. There have been cases where UK and other foreign mom's fought in our courts and won custody of their kids who were brought here by their Pakistani fathers.

Bashing third world countries sells in western press, you know. Gathering all facts is something else.

THIS is not a 1 case article it is a general article which is true enough shitty in the beginning but as I said I ONLY have 2 problems with this and I mentioned them repeatedly in the thread

 

[Uzair Shafiq [Босс]]

The islamic law states that the child goes to the father and anyways this has nothing to do with sexism and more to do with islamic law.
Women are equals to men everyone knows that so quit your BS media

 

[Dubious]

It is NOT up to the judges to make the laws.

Who is talking about MAKING a law!

People here are talking about the law and JUDGES can appeal to amend it but IF ONLY they WAKE up first!


So the purpose of the thread was to show sleeping judges!

 

[jamahir]

Two Supreme Court judges in Pakistan have reportedly ruled that when a couple divorces, the woman only gets to continue raising their children throughout infancy as their ‘supervisor’ - before passing them over to their husband when they’re old enough, because he is their legal ‘guardian’.

if the father is progressive, why can't this ruling be seen as positive?? it will allow ladies to carry on with their life better.

death by burning (stove deaths, which are presented as accidents)

i didn't know those happened in pakistan too.

 

[Dubious]

The islamic law states that the child goes to the father and anyways this has nothing to do with sexism and more to do with islamic law.
Women are equals to men everyone knows that so quit your BS media

O dear GOD! read the thread before posting! Every tom dick and harry ko pakar pakar kay batana par raha hai:


have no problem with this....

My problem is solely with 2 things....courts and their sleepy heads called judges and lawyers AND this statement:

Pakistani women cannot keep their children away from their fathers following a divorce, whatever the circumstances.

The right to protect a child from a predator parent!

if the father is progressive, why can't this ruling be seen as positive?? it will allow ladies to carry on with their life better.

I am not against it IF THE FATHER is good... I am against any ruling that paints EVERYTHING with 1 brush!

i didn't know those happened in pakistan too.

Well alot happened after that part the article does say alot of things are improving....and again:

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