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Pakistan's Goodbye to IMF

btw, about Pakistan's current account surplus.. Its kinda hard to have high imports when you dont have money to buy stuff.. Kind of impossible to work up a negative trade balance in that situation.. ;)

Nonsense!

Pakistan's imports have been rising in double digits each year, as are its exports.

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Don't recall FDI drop during downturn


Don't recall this either during recession



Yes more shift to banking jobs

besides i am curious about the nomenclature here , if Indian s/w engineer earns $14.5 per hour and is branded a cyber coolie then what do call a Pakistani s/w engineer who earn $9 per hour?

Source:PayScale India - India Country Wages, Hourly Wage Rate

PayScale Pakistan - Pakistan Country Wages, Hourly Wage Rate




We"ve been saying no to foreign aid , doesn't matter

India to surrender aid if UK decides to cut it: Pranab - Economic Times



ok , India's spending deficit can be handled as it means cutting subsidies , which haven't been helping much.


Sadly true


I recall Protests , since thats what happened during recent downturn


Not happening . no increase in Maoist spread of influence during the downturn



However the above gives a trailer of events that might happen in case of Pakistan , where unlike the Maoists gaining control , the religious extremists will do like what they did in Iran and then if UN considers Pakistan's nukes unsafe .............USA will do what she has to do ,

So lets pray that nothing happens to USA /West

God bless America.

In Pakistan, exports account for just 15% of gross domestic product, compared with nearly 25% in India and 40% in China. So the impact on Pakistan will be less severe than more globalized economies like India and China.

And India's FDI has already been declining significantly, as is the FII this year.
 
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Nonsense!

Pakistan's imports have been rising in double digits each year, as are its exports.

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In Pakistan, exports account for just 15% of gross domestic product, compared with nearly 25% in India and 40% in China. So the impact on Pakistan will be less severe than more globalized economies like India and China.

If i recall correctly it was during the downturn Pakistan went to the IMF for a bailout , as for India and China i recall a drop in the growth rate ,
 
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If i recall correctly it was during the downturn Pakistan went to the IMF for a bailout , as for India and China i recall a drop in the growth rate ,

Pakistan went to IMF not because of downturn in the West; it was due to the instability and policy inaction during elections and change of govt as the oil shot up to $150 a barrel in just a few months. India also suffered a slowdown and its deficits shot up during this period.

Haq's Musings: Pakistan's Economic Performance 2008-2010
 
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Nonsense!

Pakistan's imports have been rising in double digits each year, as are its exports.

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In Pakistan, exports account for just 15% of gross domestic product, compared with nearly 25% in India and 40% in China. So the impact on Pakistan will be less severe than more globalized economies like India and China.

And India's FDI has already been declining significantly, as is the FII this year.

Who in right mind say that pakistan has any export industry? Pakistans only source for foreign exchange is
remittance, and AID.
 
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Who in right mind say that pakistan has any export industry? Pakistans only source for foreign exchange is
remittance, and AID.

More nonsense from you!

Pakistan's exports in 2010 exceeded $25 billion, and remittances were about $10 billion, while the actual aid received was less than $1 billion...India got a lot more aid than Pakistan last year, and continues to receive billions in aid every year.

Haq's Musings: Pakistan's Exports and Remittances Rise to New Highs

Haq's Musings: Foreign Aid Continues to Pour in Resurgent India
 
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More nonsense from you!

Pakistan's exports in 2010 exceeded $25 billion, and remittances were about $10 billion, while the actual aid received was less than $1 billion...India got a lot more aid than Pakistan last year, and continues to receive billions in aid every year.

Haq's Musings: Pakistan's Exports and Remittances Rise to New Highs

Haq's Musings: Foreign Aid Continues to Pour in Resurgent India

Pakistan export+remittance = 25+10=35 billion
imports 40 billion
Where will it get extra 5 billions.
Credit rating is B-(~ garbage). so no investment.

Without aid or loan, things will go out of hand very soon.
 
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Pak economy facing big challenges | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online

ISLAMABAD - The Asian Development Bank’s Outlook 2011 presents a bleak picture of Pakistan’s economy as it observed that fiscal developments are worrisome due to the rollback in oil prices, partial increase in electricity tariffs, broad tax exemptions for flood affected areas and continued heavy fiscal support to the state-owned enterprises.

According to the outlook, Pakistan’s economy faces considerable challenges, as floods in 2010 hit the agricultural output and damaged the infrastructure badly. Apart from fiscal developments, the inflation rate is still high and might further accelerate. The fiscal deficit is increasing due to delays in revenue-increasing measures, increase in oil price at international market and continued heavy fiscal support to the state-owned enterprises.

Pakistan’s economic performance in fiscal year FY2010 (ended June 2010) and into FY2011 reflects largely the same structural weaknesses that contributed to its FY2008 macroeconomic crisis.

Energy shortages and security issues held the economic rebound for FY2010 to 4.1 per cent, slowing growth for FY2008-FY2010 to an average of only 3 per cent, well below the 8 per cent needed to create jobs for the predominately young population.
The outlook revealed that Pakistan’s fiscal balance was deteriorated in last fiscal year 2010-2011, as it widened to 6.3 per cent of the GDP against the revised target of 5.1 per cent. The fiscal deficit increased due to delays in policy measures to enhance the revenue collection and also heavy fiscal support to the state-owned enterprises. The reports also observed that Federal Board of Revenue (FBR) missed the revenue collection target and also declined as a share of GDP, reaching a 30-year low of 9 per cent in FY 2010.

Pakistan’s current budget expenditure is relatively rigid, and it is difficult to offset overruns in one category with reductions in another. Inflexible current expenditure (such as security, interest, and pensions) alone-absorbed revenue of 7.4 per cent of the GDP in FY2010, or about 82 per cent of FBR tax receipts. Subsidies amounted to another 1.7 per cent of GDP.
Pakistan might not be able to collect the revenue collection target during the current fiscal year. Revenue targets called for 26 per cent growth of tax receipts; well over the 5-year average of 14 per cent. Meeting the target would have been hard even if a reformed General Sales Tax had come into effect, said the outlook.

The government sharply curtailed the federal public sector development programme (PSDP) to 3.5 per cent of GDP to ease deficit pressure. The federal government borrowing from the State Bank of Pakistan (SBP), the central bank, as well as from commercial banks rose to Rs339.7 billion (2.3 per cent of GDP), reflecting a widening deficit and lower external financing. Escalating losses from SOEs reached an estimated 1.7 per cent of GDP for FY2010 adding to pressures.

Inflation fell to 11.7 per cent in FY2010 from 20.8 per cent in FY2009. As it moderated, the SBP lowered the policy rate in steps from 14pc to 12.5 per cent.

From the supply side, transitory improvements in large-scale manufacturing partly reversed 2 years of declines and supported a recovery in services, led by wholesale and retail trade. Agriculture expanded by a modest 2 per cent due to weak performance by major crops. The fragility of the recovery was underscored by continued investment contractions. Infrastructure shortages and security issues contributed to a 5.1pc decline of gross private capital formation. Gross fixed capital formation contracted by 2 per cent in FY2010, coming on the heels of an 11.3pc decline the previous year.

The FY2010 also saw a third consecutive year of decline in investment in large-scale manufacturing (down 15.4 per cent) and electricity and gas (11 per cent lower). Overall, the steady decline in total gross fixed investment as a share of GDP from 20.5 pc in FY2006 to 15pc in FY2010 will crimp future growth prospects. Private savings have similarly declined, owing in part to the failure of key asset rates to keep pace with inflation, leading to either negligible or negative real returns. Pakistan’s external reserves reached $17.4b in early Feb 2011, amounting to more than 5 months of imports of goods and services. This buildup essentially reflects IMF releases of $7.1b under the standby arrangement, an additional $450m in emergency support in Sept 2010, and support from the Coalition Support Fund ($633m) at end-Dec 2010. The central bank’s holdings of liquid forex reserves ended FY2010 at $13.9 billion.

While the import growth remains modest, a significant expansion of exports during the first 7 months of FY2011 moved the current account deficit into near balance, at 0.5 per cent of GDP, but it is expected to widen to 1.7 per cent for full-year FY2011, reflecting higher international food and commodity prices. For the first 7 months of FY2011, exports of textiles and rice showed strong growth in value terms, mainly on higher world prices. Remittances increased further, broadly in line with inflation, but non-debt-creating inflows continued to decline, with private FDI inflows about 16 per cent below the same period of the previous year.

The current account deficit is expected to edge upward in FY2012 to 2.3 per cent of GDP as projected declines in global food and commodity prices are more than offset by the impact of improved growth and increased demand for imports, including for post flood reconstruction.
Energy related circular debt, which stood at Rs 446 billion at the end of FY 2010, is expected to surge by end of FY 2011.
 
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Pakistan export+remittance = 25+10=35 billion
imports 40 billion
Where will it get extra 5 billions.
Credit rating is B-(~ garbage). so no investment.

Without aid or loan, things will go out of hand very soon.

You haven't heard of FDI and FII? Have you?

Do you realize Pakistan had a current account surplus last year?

Apparently not!

You are either totally ignorant or you only pay attention to sensational negative headlines about Pakistan.

Haq's Musings: Pakistan's Exports and Remittances Rise to New Highs
 
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I don't understand why so many bharatis are replying in this thread. Most of the posts in fact seem to be from bharatis. This thread has absolutely nothing to do with Bharat, so please. You guys claim you do not care about Pakistan's internal issues. WTF is this then?

Bump. Looks like they're truly obsessed. On another thread, they'll be saying that they do not care about Pakistan's internal issues. :lol: Liar, liar, pants on fire.
 
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Bump. Looks like they're truly obsessed. On another thread, they'll be saying that they do not care about Pakistan's internal issues. :lol: Liar, liar, pants on fire.

Poor little indians and their inferiority complexes, their obsession knows no bounds, they study our economy - and then still fail economics 1o1.
 
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I don't understand why so many bharatis are replying in this thread. Most of the posts in fact seem to be from bharatis. This thread has absolutely nothing to do with Bharat, so please. You guys claim you do not care about Pakistan's internal issues. WTF is this then?

Bump. Looks like they're truly obsessed. On another thread, they'll be saying that they do not care about Pakistan's internal issues. :lol: Liar, liar, pants on fire.

Talking to your self ??? :rofl:

They say that mind is 1st to go ;)

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Poor little indians and their inferiority complexes, their obsession knows no bounds, they study our economy - and then still fail economics 1o1.

Its 101 not 1o1

And yes, we do study Pakistani economy.. Its a good case in what not to do :)
 
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