Pakistan's fate = Feudalism, lets celebrate our future

[darkinsky]

lolz why are u surprised pakistan was made by the british and there nawabi stooges so as there jageers and jamidarioes remain intact and the main resentment in muslim elite against congress was that congress was against any for of feudalism andthey killed feudalism as soon india got independence

now the question why muslim masses supported pakistan well when even today they cant vote against there sain or whadera or peer or any feudal what do you think they could have done then + when they were promised the land and all they could loot will be there from hindus .......so much for pasksitan (land for the muslims)

dont post conspiracy theory, kashmir, bangladesh, etc didnt have any feudalism, it is only prevalent in sindh, punjab, and KPK and balochistan also doesnt have feudalism

Well its either this or people like altaf hussain so i will take my chance with PTI. A slow change is a permanent change.



You are taking as if there are no feudals in your political system. Even now India is being ruled by Ghandi faimly.

PTI itself has feudalism support

 

[GURU DUTT]

dont post conspiracy theory, kashmir, bangladesh, etc didnt have any feudalism, it is only prevalent in sindh, punjab, and KPK and balochistan also doesnt have feudalism



PTI itself has feudalism support

wher did i post any conspiracy theori sir please elaborate im against feudalism since long

now fedualism is the main reason why bangladesh got separrated from pakistan deu to feudal attitude of west pakistanies towards the so called dark,small and smelli bangalies of east pakistan

where pakistan is standing today is becuse pakistan was made for feudals by the feduals with help of then nawabs , beurocracy and british so safegaurd british and western interests in this theater and look at your history of last 65 years and think withowt a bais towards india where are you , where u started and where are yiou heading


Thanks & good luck

 

[Saleem]

and this guy is a major leader of PTI????????

I lost faith in IK when he took all these lotas and khotas......ghaddi nasheen and gudda nasheen indeed ----all they need is madame guillotine.......

 

[darkinsky]

wher did i post any conspiracy theori sir please elaborate im against feudalism since long

now fedualism is the main reason why bangladesh got separrated from pakistan deu to feudal attitude of west pakistanies towards the so called dark,small and smelli bangalies of east pakistan

where pakistan is standing today is becuse pakistan was made for feudals by the feduals with help of then nawabs , beurocracy and british so safegaurd british and western interests in this theater and look at your history of last 65 years and think withowt a bais towards india where are you , where u started and where are yiou heading


Thanks & good luck

please support your claims with link other wise im reporting you

 

[GURU DUTT]

please support your claims with link other wise im reporting you

i rest my case sir thanks and good luck



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxT6iFAVi3w

 

[Cherokee]

Feudalism was present in India as well . Now Looking at Pakistan it seems like we were very lucky to Get rid of Feudalism with land reforms soon after independence .

 

[Spring Onion]

this picture is the representation of pakistan and Pakistanis

we elect kam bakhts again and again

Indeed they are representation of Pakistani people and you are representation of MQM ))))


2. curse democracy for the process feudal or uneducated or whatever even criminal or rapist , the votes can bring them to ruling seat.


3. Feudalism in Sindh/Punjab and Balochistan must end. Thats what we all agree.

4. Land reforms in Pakistan are also a must to do away with feudalism

 

[darkinsky]

Feudalism was present in India as well . Now Looking at Pakistan it seems like we were very lucky to Get rid of Feudalism with land reforms soon after independence .

yes i agree, india was very lucky indeed

there was a planned land reforms in Pakistan too but it was never enforced because soon after jinnah and liaquat ali khan were dead and martyred, the government was taken over by feudals

i rest my case sir thanks and good luck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HStOBbOxOsk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd_0sK5Begk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxT6iFAVi3w

view of one man hassan nisar nothing else

now next time dont quote me javed akhter :lolzz:

 

[GURU DUTT]

yes i agree, india was very lucky indeed

there was a planned land reforms in Pakistan too but it was never enforced because soon after jinnah and liaquat ali khan were dead and martyred, the government was taken over by feudals



view of one man hassan nisar nothing else

now next time dont quote me javed akhter :lolzz:

ok sir i will keep that in mind

but at the bolded part you gave the answer of this thread and my assesments on your own Thanks and god bless you SIR

 

[Dushmann]

^ because it was urduspeakers from Delhi/West UP who led the Pakistan movement. They were educated middle class, not believing in all this Feudal culture. They made a mistake in thinking they could change pakistani mindset

They were Urdu speaking upper caste elites (the Ashraf castes- some of them claim to be sayyads by claiming origin from Turks and Arabs, but most of them converts from Hindu upper castes). Large chunk of this upper caste ashrafs ran away to their dreamland Pakistan leaving behind majority of poor uneducated lower castes (ajlaafs and arzaals I.e. shudra labourer/artisan castes and untouchable castes). And then they took over all the jobs in administration in Pakistan.
This bunch of the upper caste burocracy, the feudal class and the army generals, officers and businessmen who come from these same classes have been running Pakistan since its creation. They own Pakistan, because it was created by them, and to preserve their own interests.
Why do you guys think half of Pakistan is still illiterate in 21st century ?
Why do you think till recently Pakistanis could get into Britain very easily ? why do you think almost everyone of your leaders and MNAs somehow happen to have dual citizenship of Britain ?

 

[darkinsky]

They were Urdu speaking upper caste elites (the Ashraf castes- some of them claim to be sayyads by claiming origin from Turks and Arabs, but most of them converts from Hindu upper castes). Large chunk of this upper caste ashrafs ran away to their dreamland Pakistan leaving behind majority of poor uneducated lower castes (ajlaafs and arzaals I.e. shudra labourer/artisan castes and untouchable castes). And then they took over all the jobs in administration in Pakistan.
This bunch of the upper caste burocracy, the feudal class and the army generals, officers and businessmen who come from these same classes have been running Pakistan since its creation.
Why do you guys think half of Pakistan is still illiterate in 21st century ?

lol dude who teaches you these stuff?

those who wanted to migrate migrated without thinking about his caste, it was totally upto themselves who wanted to migrate in a muslim land and who didnt

and caste doesnt matter much if you are a muslim

 

[INDIC]

Feudalism was present in India as well . Now Looking at Pakistan it seems like we were very lucky to Get rid of Feudalism with land reforms soon after independence .

Thus, partition was good for India, since Congress easily eliminated the Feudalism from India otherwise it would have been a great headache for Congress eliminate feudalism from India.

 

[GURU DUTT]

They were Urdu speaking upper caste elites (the Ashraf castes- some of them claim to be sayyads by claiming origin from Turks and Arabs, but most of them converts from Hindu upper castes). Large chunk of this upper caste ashrafs ran away to their dreamland Pakistan leaving behind majority of poor uneducated lower castes (ajlaafs and arzaals I.e. shudra labourer/artisan castes and untouchable castes). And then they took over all the jobs in administration in Pakistan.
This bunch of the upper caste burocracy, the feudal class and the army generals, officers and businessmen who come from these same classes have been running Pakistan since its creation.
Why do you guys think half of Pakistan is still illiterate in 21st century ?

well thats the best post so far on this thread but buddy they will never aknowledge that and will ask for links and martian theories and what not

thing is pakistan was created by the elite (feudal, millitarry and so called Ashrafia the Urdu speaking upper caste elites Mujahir of UP)who were against bieng treated as equals by there easterwhile riyaya (hindus) as they were hell bent on killing the feudalism after independence


but thing is even after what they went thru in last 65 years and what they are to recive thans to there ovwer zelous sense of ummah and all weather friends they will always deny there past mistakes ....so much for Zinda quam

 

[INDIC]

You are taking as if there are no feudals in your political system. Even now India is being ruled by Ghandi faimly.

Gandhi family have no connection with Feudalism.

 

[Pandora]

but sir ghandi family is not in any way feudal they were owt of power also and its a political dynasty and we south asians regardless of relegion have deep inbetted respect and follow dynasty since ancient times

now the thing is this was the same congress and ghandi family which was instrumental in killing feudalism in Independent India lolzz they even too all privilages from the easterwhile rulers as soon as earli 1970s but what did your army did as they ruled a mojor part of your history like ghandi family in india

what did bhutto family did to kill feudalism when it was the same Z A Bhutto who was considered a socialist in earli part of his political carrier

the hard fact is pakistan was created by the feudals for the feudals with help of british so they could control the mighty USSR from coming to arabian ocean as then the trade and oil was coming to west form asia thru arabian sea and suez canal and india was considered as the jewel in crown of the british and see where british are after they lost india so they had to do somthing so there future remains secure in this theater and the result was pakistan

jinnah was just a scape goat to take all the blame while he was very skillfully taken owt as soon as his job was done and since then look at your history all the PA + Beurocracy & Feudal Elite is doing is takin there share and doing dirty job of USA/UK/WEST while a common pakistani is being misguided by the fear of ladiniat & India

as some one said .....Ameer E Sheher Gareebon ko loot leta hai ...kabhi banam E Watan Kabhee baleeha E Mazhab

Well history will always be seen with more than one point of view so all we can hope for is a better future rather than dwindling in the past.