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Pakistan's Ex U.N. Ambassador Abdullah Hussein Haroon destroys USA in his interview

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And your point is? The mistrust between USA and Pakistan started way back in 2010. And the above mentioned article stated by OP is very clear he mentioned ex or former. And instead of going to datelines it might be better if you had any comments about the video.

Pamela starts the interview with the words 'Pak US relations have hit the rock bottom. That was in 2011. That shows how much patience has been shown, opportunities and time given to Pakistan and yet today it has fallen from rock bottom to bottomless pit
 
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Let us cut the crap ...

Who do you ask for information on violence in Afghanistan ? Without asking Afghan officials who else are we suppose to ask ? People from Mars ??

You are making it sound like without Pakistan USA-China detente could not have happened in 1969
Typical inflated view.

How come American and British citizens of Pakistani origin get radicalized ? Not people from other origins.

who told this idiot that there are 2 million Pakistanis in USA

if the 95% of peace loving Pakistanis do not stand up against 5% there will be no peace

he does not have the balls to challenge his country leaders on the Taliban. Quit whining to the American correspondents.

You should change your name to NotSoWiseone. I see you post in every single thread, its like you have nothing better to do plus if you are going to post atleast do your research before posting, it will save you some embarrassment. Now for the rebuttal

1. Regarding violence in Afghanistan, which is being blamed on Pakistan because apparently we support the Haqqani group, has a single piece of evidence ever been provided that Pakistan is supporting them? On top of that there are roughly 3000 haqqani fighters, it is astounding to hear that the worlds greatest military power with the most sophisticated weaponry and surveillance system is unable to win the war because of these rag-tag fighters with ak47s. Only a braindead zombie will believe this crap. Secondly why are they against Pakistan fencing the border when this will solve the cross-border incursions by any fighters based in Pakistan?

2. Regarding US-China relations, it doesn't matter what could have happened. The fact is it was Pakistan that was the link between US and China relations improving and reminding it to the US public is what he is trying to achieve. I don't understand why your rear-end is on fire on that fact.

3. Regarding only Pakistan origin people being radicalized. All i can say you have to be living under a rock to even assume that. But i understand you are an Indian and your only goal in life is to portray Pakistan/Pakistanis in the world as the reason for all evils. Just answer this how many Pakistanis are in ISIS or Al-qaeda? Even if you look at all the recent terrorist attacks you will find all of them are off Arab descent.

So stop spreading your bullcrap.
 
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1. Regarding violence in Afghanistan, which is being blamed on Pakistan because apparently we support the Haqqani group, has a single piece of evidence ever been provided that Pakistan is supporting them? On top of that there are roughly 3000 haqqani fighters, it is astounding to hear that the worlds greatest military power with the most sophisticated weaponry and surveillance system is unable to win the war because of these rag-tag fighters with ak47s. Only a braindead zombie will believe this crap. Secondly why are they against Pakistan fencing the border when this will solve the cross-border incursions by any fighters based in Pakistan?

It is hard to fight someone who slips away into a foreign state and hides there
The problem here is called credibility. Assume what you say is true. Essentially what most of the world is saying that we do not believe you.

2. Regarding US-China relations, it doesn't matter what could have happened. The fact is it was Pakistan that was the link between US and China relations improving and reminding it to the US public is what he is trying to achieve. I don't understand why your rear-end is on fire on that fact.
Do not claim credit for something that would have happened anyway
Even today Pakistanis on this forum like to tout their leverage with the Muslim world without mentioning what exactly it is

3. Regarding only Pakistan origin people being radicalized. All i can say you have to be living under a rock to even assume that. But i understand you are an Indian and your only goal in life is to portray Pakistan/Pakistanis in the world as the reason for all evils. Just answer this how many Pakistanis are in ISIS or Al-qaeda? Even if you look at all the recent terrorist attacks you will find all of them are off Arab descent.

They are Arab origin terrorists. How many Iranians or Bangladeshis or Indian Muslims or Indonesians settled in USA or Europe committing terrorist acts ? There are Pakistanis citizens of UK and USA who have participated in terrorist acts. Closing your eyes does not make the problem go away. The ambassador tries to kick the can by calling them US or British citizens. I never said that all Pakistanis settled abroad are involved in this kind of activity.
 
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Let us cut the crap ...

Who do you ask for information on violence in Afghanistan ? Without asking Afghan officials who else are we suppose to ask ? People from Mars ??

You are making it sound like without Pakistan USA-China detente could not have happened in 1969
Typical inflated view.

How come American and British citizens of Pakistani origin get radicalized ? Not people from other origins.

who told this idiot that there are 2 million Pakistanis in USA

if the 95% of peace loving Pakistanis do not stand up against 5% there will be no peace

he does not have the balls to challenge his country leaders on the Taliban. Quit whining to the American correspondents.



news for you - there is no Indian lobby that sets the foreign policy
if there are people claiming to be lobbyists they are enriching their own pockets

taking your argument that we should ask afghans about violence in Afghanistan .... we and the world should only listen to the kashmiris regarding violence in Kashmir. now kiss my hairy a55 all the way back to your cow cola

Hina Rabbani was OK too!
to look at yes

Wonder why the US doesn't believe this narrative? :woot:
pakistan doesn't care much for usa anymore. they are all yours. enjoy.
 
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He doesnt't destroy anything - just articulated the age old worn out Pak establishment line about how much Pakistan has spent bla bla bla. None of these guys ever address the main issue which is Pakistani support and nurturing of terrorists, which is why we cut the funding off.
 
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Abdullah Haroon is indeed a well spoken and wise man.

He should speak on the behalf of Pakistan.
 
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It is hard to fight someone who slips away into a foreign state and hides there
The problem here is called credibility. Assume what you say is true. Essentially what most of the world is saying that we do not believe you.

So you agree with this statement that some 3000 militants is the reason that might US is unable to win in Afghanistan? So again why object to Pakistan building fences on the border? Why not man the border yourself instead of whinging?

Do not claim credit for something that would have happened anyway
Even today Pakistanis on this forum like to tout their leverage with the Muslim world without mentioning what exactly it is

All i can do is bang my head on the wall, your logic here proves that you should change your name to "NotSoWiseOne" People take credit for things they have done, would you say to Newton not to take credit for his laws because someone else could have discovered them.


They are Arab origin terrorists. How many Iranians or Bangladeshis or Indian Muslims or Indonesians settled in USA or Europe committing terrorist acts ? There are Pakistanis citizens of UK and USA who have participated in terrorist acts. Closing your eyes does not make the problem go away. The ambassador tries to kick the can by calling them US or British citizens. I never said that all Pakistanis settled abroad are involved in this kind of activity.

Ok tell me how many terrorists acts have been committed by Pakistan origin people? We havn't closed our eyes that is the reason that we can see through the BS that you are spreading to malign Pakistan/Pakistanis, which is your agenda.

Here is a list of the recent terrorists attacks of 2017 in Europe and US

5th Jan - Gothenburg, Sweden - bombing - 1 injured- perpetrators = 3 neo-nazis
29th Jan - Quebec City, Canada - shooting - 6 dead, 17 injured - perpetrator = Alexandre Bissonnette
31st Jan - Denver, United States - Shooting - 1 dead - perpetrator = Joshua Cummings (ISIS)
22nd Feb - Derry, United Kingdom - Bombing - 0 casualties - perpetrator - New Irish Republican Army
23rd Feb - Kansas City, United States - Shooting - 1 dead, 2 injured - perpetrator - Adam Purinton
14th Mar - Carrickfergus, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom - Shooting - 1 dead - perpetrator = Ulster Defence Association
16th Mar - Paris, France - Bombing - 1 injured - perpetrator = Conspiracy of Fire Nuclei
18th Mar - Stains and Orly, France - Shooting - 1 dead, 4 injured - perpetrator = Ziyed Ben Belgacem (ISIS)
21st Mar - Strabane, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom - bombing - 0 casualties - perpetrator - Real Irish Republican Army
22st Mar - London, United Kingdom - Vehicle attack, stabbing - 6 dead, 49 injured - perpetrator = Khalid Masood (Adrian Russell Elms) (ISIS)
25th Mar - New York City, United States - stabbing - 1 dead - perpetrator = White Supremecist
5th Apr - Bastia, France - Bombing - 0 casualties - perpetrator = National Liberation Front of Corsica
7th Apr - Stockholm, Sweden - Vehicular attack - 5 dead, 14 injured - perpetrator = Rakhmat Akilov (ISIS)
7th Apr - Queanbeyan, Australia - Stabbling - 1 dead, 1 injured - perpetrator = 2 teenagers of arab descent (ISIS) - victim was Pakistani
8th Apr - Oslo, Norway - attempted bombing - 0 casulaties - perpetrator - Russian man(ISIS)
11th Apr - Dortmund, Germany - bombings - 2 injured - perpetrator = Sergej W.
18th Apr - Fresno, United States - Shooting - 4 dead - perpetrator = Kori Ali Muhammad (Kori McDonald)(Black American)
20th Apr - Paris, France - shooting - 2 dead, 3 injured - perpetrator = Abu-Yusuf al-Baljiki(ISIS)
18th May - Milan, Italy - Stabbing - 3 injured - perpetrator = Ismail Tommaso Hosni(ISIS)
22nd May - Manchester, United Kingdom - bombing - 23 dead, 116 injured - perpetrator = Salman Ramadan Abedi(ISIS)
25th May - Athens, Greece - bombing - 2 injured - perpetrator = Conspiracy of Fire Nuclei
28th May - Bangor, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom - shooting - 1 dead - perpetrator = Ulster Defence Association
3rd June - London, United Kingdom - Vehicular attack, Stabbing - 11 dead, 48 injured - perpetrator = Khuram Butt (Pakistani), Youssef Zaghba, Rachid Redouane(ISIS)
6th June - Melbourne, Australia - Shooting - 2 dead, 3 injured - perpetrator = Yacqub Khayre(ISIS)
6th June - Paris, France - Hammered - 2 injured - perpetrator = Farid Ikken(ISIS)
19th June - London, United Kingdom - Vehicular attack - 1 dead, 10 injured - perpetrator = Darren Osborne(White Supremecist)
19th June - Paris, France - Vehicular attack - 0 casualties - perpetrator = Djaziri Adam Lotfi(ISIS)
20th June - Brussels, Belgium - shooting and bombing - 0 casualties - perpetrator = Oussama Zariouh(ISIS)
21st June - Flint, United States - Stabbing - 1 injured - perpetrator = Amor Ftouhi (ISIS)
28th June - Moss, Norway - Shooting - 0 casualties - perpetrator = Right-wing Extremists
5th Aug - Paris, France - Attempted stabbing - 0 casualties - perpetrator = 19 yr old French with history of psychological problems shouting "Allahu Akbar"
9th Aug - Levallois-Perret, France - 6 injured - perpetrator = Hamou Benlatreche(ISIS)
17th Aug - Spain - Vehicular attacks, Stabbings, Bombings - 24 dead, 152 injured - perpetrator = Younes Abouyaaqoub, Moussa Oukabir, Said Aallaa, Mohamed Hychami, Omar Hychami, Houssaine Abouyaaqoub, Abdelbaki Es Satty, Youssef Aalla (ISIS)
18th Aug - Turku, Finland - Stabbing - 2 dead, 8 injured - perpetrator = Abderrahman Mechkah (Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group)
24th Aug - Warsaw, Poland - Stabbing - 1 injured - perpetrator = 23-year-old Israeli man
25th Aug - Brussels, Belgium - Stabbing - 2 injured - perpetrator = 30-year-old male Somali immigrant(ISIS)
25th Aug - London, United Kingdom - Stabbing - 3 injured - perpetrator = 26-year-old from Luton (ISIS) identity not released

As you can see the whole year there was just 1 Pakistani guy involved in any terrorist activity, there were more white converts that committed terrorism.

So in conclusion you can take your BS propaganda and shove it up where the sun doesn't shine.
 
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